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NoobieOne
United States1183 Posts
On May 04 2012 03:36 Exarl25 wrote: Wait what?They delayed their tournament with 0 warning, without letting their caster know, because there was a presidential debate on in France? What the fuck? something similar happened to their LoL tourney http://clgaming.net/news/59-eclypsia-rol-update-tournament-postponed | ||
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
MystresS: Eclypsia then started to change their original offer... They wanted the players to generate 5000 viewers on the stream, forbid the players the use of IRC, and every time I tried to defend my players, explaining that it was impossible for them to have this many viewers in such a short time, I was threatened not to get paid... And this went on and on for three days. Eclypsia's response to this "grossly misleading" claim. Eclypsia conditions to recruiting a team included capacities to stream and generate a specified audience. A verbal agreement was found with Mystress ‘ Danish team to be transferred to Eclypsia on the base of the understanding and the acceptation of these conditions. Unfortunately , the team was clearly unable to meet the conditions which therefore ended the agreement and the relationship. We regret that many are taking their commitments too lighlty resulting in wasting time and energy for everybody involved Funny how Eclypsia's official "clarification" is the same thing that MystresS said. Whether or not there were any actual legal issues, Eclypsia clearly has no understanding of PR or professionalism. | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On May 04 2012 03:54 AlgeriaT wrote: Oh wow I hadn't looked at that meme contest thread on their site, thought it would be just pointless and not very funny. Not all out abusive like that. How can they leave that shit up there, it's their own players ffs?? I just find it to be down right hilarious that the community pitchforks to get people fired, emails sponsors etc., after rage induced ladder matches but an actual 'esports' company hosts its very own contest in which community members are encouraged to bash their players and it goes relatively unnoticed. Some of the scarlett memes are much more harsh and infintely more personal then some random ladder rage. It almost feels like psedo-sexual harrassment. I mean eclypsia is scarletts employer and they have a contest that is actively engaging in joking about her sexuality at her expense. Maybe she's ok with it, but it's pretty fucking cruel. | ||
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JohnMatrix
France1356 Posts
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
could you give context to this 20.4. you speak of, thanks? | ||
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Berailfor
441 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On May 04 2012 03:58 Megabuster123 wrote: I thought their april fools day joke was pretty funny. The memes contest wasn't even that bad, just because some posters said some terrible things doesn't mean that Eclypsia is in the wrong...>_> it's not wrong to have an official contest where forum posters post derogatory jokes about your players sexuality or apperance? I believe they do have a responsibility to moderate their forums. How long do you think such images would last on TL or EG if the images were harsh to one of their contracted players? On the whole I don't mind it if scarlett doesn't care. I'm more interested in the community reactions. It breaks my brain that a destiny ladder rage incident where the word 'gook' was used sparks a 100+ page thread and sponsor emails but an esports organization hosts a contest in which participants openly mock scarletts sexuality or desrows size is no big deal. I'm not really saying it is or it isn't but the communitys values and determination on when to grab the pitchforks is seriously wacked the fuck out. | ||
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JohnnyBlaze420
Australia814 Posts
On May 04 2012 03:50 oxxo wrote: It's really hard to tell whether or not Eclypsia is for real or not. What's easy to tell is they have absolutely no clue how to run an organization/business. Their April fools joke, meme contest, and now this just show the guys running it are completely incompetent. seems like they are always doing silly shit... that april fools joke was terrible lol | ||
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Megakenny
Canada829 Posts
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nath
United States1788 Posts
On May 04 2012 04:03 snailz wrote: could you give context to this 20.4. you speak of, thanks? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(cannabis_culture) | ||
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windzor
Denmark1013 Posts
On May 04 2012 04:03 snailz wrote: could you give context to this 20.4. you speak of, thanks? 420 is a number associated with smoking weed... | ||
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SirPsychoMantis
United States180 Posts
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plogamer
Canada3132 Posts
On May 04 2012 03:30 crms wrote: is this 'professional'? http://www.eclypsia.com/forum/showthread.php?65-Post-your-best-memes-to-win-coaching Yep, that's terrible. It reflects poorly on Eclypsia to keep those "memes" up. In response to the poster talking about the seriousness of joking about unpaid salary. I think it was a joke largely at Eclypsia's own expense - being a small, sponsorless (i think) team. Nothing mean going on there, unlike that meme competition business. Ew. But I'm going to put my personal feelings aside for real evidence of foul play in this particular case. Eclypsia's poor taste is circumstantial at best. | ||
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windzor
Denmark1013 Posts
On May 04 2012 04:16 SirPsychoMantis wrote: One thing that is pretty interesting from this post is that 13200€ - 18000€ ($17,352 - $23,664) a year salary is considered a dream as an esports competitor For 1 players yes. For 5, and maybe even a manager? I don't think so... | ||
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FSKi
United States901 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On May 04 2012 03:58 Megabuster123 wrote: I thought their april fools day joke was pretty funny. The memes contest wasn't even that bad, just because some posters said some terrible things doesn't mean that Eclypsia is in the wrong...>_> It does mean Eclypsia is in the wrong. They exploited their players to bring them publicity. Here's my post from a couple pages back that got buried pretty quick: On May 04 2012 03:27 plogamer wrote: Let's get this straight people. Eclypsia's April Fool's Day joke was just that - a joke. This is in no way related to the current situation. It might be ironic, but there is no real world relevance. Please do not drone on about unprofessionalism. I can't imagine a "professional" April Fool's Joke. Nobody's using that to say Eclypsia is unprofessional. It was just strike one. Not a big deal. The meme contest however WAS truely unprofessional and really lets you know what Eclypsia is about: Exploitation. "Hey, we have two starcraft 2 players who are REALLY easy to make fun of." "Hmm, are they good players?" "Yeah, but FUCKEM! Lets let the internet make fun of them and REWARD the people who do it best! It'll generate mad income bro!" And now they're trying to get their Dota team to do their work for them and threatening with not paying them if they don't. Seriously, fuck these guys. | ||
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SirPsychoMantis
United States180 Posts
On May 04 2012 04:17 windzor wrote: For 1 players yes. For 5, and maybe even a manager? I don't think so... Sorry I didn't specify, I did the calculatons for per player (given 5 players), so including the manager I guess it would be a bit lower. Also it definitely would be a good salary if housing and food were provided, however if not that is looking close to minimum wage (US). Also requiring 12(!) hours of streaming a day seems a bit rediculous. EDIT: Grammars | ||
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soiii
Germany266 Posts
Eclypsia is hurting Esports. | ||
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