EPTI see what i did... i said count... my bad I mean for it to detect games that I played in order to update the information.. my bad
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Beren
United States514 Posts
I see what i did... i said count... my bad I mean for it to detect games that I played in order to update the information.. my bad | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On June 16 2012 17:23 Beren wrote: sorry let me clarify... I want it to detect games i played.. so i can get more data... is there any way to do this? I know it updates live games... can i trick it somehow? I see what i did... i said count... my bad I mean for it to detect games that I played in order to update the information.. my bad if there is a way to calculate mmr on not life games i would do the trick myself  Sadly its impossible. I have to know the amount of bonuspool you have at the second you play the game. You can not reserve calculate this. | ||
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Beren
United States514 Posts
On June 16 2012 17:28 skeldark wrote: if there is a way to calculate mmr on not life games i would do the trick myself Sadly its impossible. I have to know the amount of bonuspool you have at the second you play the game. You can not reserve calculate this. Ahh Ok that makes sense... thanks for the info! So it records how many points you got from win/loss and assumes the other persons MMR from that ? Then guesses your with more data? | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On June 16 2012 17:31 Beren wrote: Ahh Ok that makes sense... thanks for the info! So it records how many points you got from win/loss and assumes the other persons MMR from that ? Then guesses your with more data? hehe. NO. its way way way more complicated than that. i calculate your mmr from your opponent points, his life bonuspool , the server total bonuspool, the amount of REAL change he had for the game, a tier offset table , and a tier guess analyser. | ||
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Beren
United States514 Posts
How many games (on average) does it take for it to be pretty accurate (within reason of course) | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On June 16 2012 17:57 Beren wrote: Haha ok so I was a LITTLE off on how it figure it out! I also didn't realize you were the person who created it! I would like to thank you! How many games (on average) does it take for it to be pretty accurate (within reason of course) depends on the game. can not tell in average. If you play a master opponent 1. If you play diamond or silver and have bad games every second game , so he can not create a row: infinity. If you play in a row -4 perhaps. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
will take a while but i think it will work | ||
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dareKEU
Spain16 Posts
On June 16 2012 18:10 skeldark wrote: have an idea how to show a nicer graph and also be more accurate and also show more data. will take a while but i think it will work Can't wait! | ||
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peshay
Germany14 Posts
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roym899
Germany426 Posts
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Alnius
Norway29 Posts
A typing error perhaps? Or a error on webserver vs Blizzards maming scheme? | ||
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Not_That
287 Posts
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
 , I was just wondering if you would be able to help me with my problem. I have the tool installed, and it seems to be working when it comes to analyzing games. However, my graph doesnt ever show anything, and I cannot see any promotion lines. Also, the MMR on the side is at -9000ish. Here is a pic showing what I mean.![[image loading]](http://i47.tinypic.com/25ui7og.jpg) Am I doing something horribly wrong?  | ||
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SyzygySC
Australia4 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 13:16:15 MMR-Stats 4.2.3 13:16:15 --------INIT START-------- 13:16:15 OK File-Encoding UTF-8 13:16:15 OK Data-Settings loaded! 13:16:15 ERROR No Data Found! Time to ladder... 13:16:15 OK Database loaded! 13:16:15 DB Version:8.0 13:16:17 OK DB up to date! 13:16:17 OK Triggers ready! 13:16:17 OK Gameobserver: ready! 13:16:18 OK: Program is up to date 13:16:18 --------INIT END-------- 13:17:52 -------------------------- 13:17:52 Game Start detected 13:18:36 Webgrabber: Player true 13:18:36 No Profile, skip 13:18:36 Webgrabber: Opponent false 13:18:36 PRE-Trigger done 13:28:53 Webgrabber: Player true 13:28:56 Webgrabber: Opponent true 13:28:56 Adjused Calculate Player:true 13:28:56 DATA Alg.B: failed, No Bonus Win 13:28:56 ERROR AFTERCHECK All algorithem failed 13:28:56 Adjused Calculate Opponent: false 13:28:56 Gamecheck: true 13:28:56 POST-Trigger done 13:28:56 OK Good Game! 13:28:58 OK Uploader: game uploaded 13:28:58 Ladder Game Done! 13:28:58 -------------------------- and i have no graph yet, what have i done wrong? thanks for the help | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On June 16 2012 23:10 peshay wrote: The plugin doesn't load on MacOS i will look into it. On June 17 2012 04:05 roym899 wrote: Do I have to delete the data from the previous season? My MMR dropped by 150 or so, between the 2 seasons. No. can be a accurate problem or you played games without him, or the games you play right now are not good for him ( because many promotion games ) On June 17 2012 06:34 Alnius wrote: "23:25:37 ERROR LASTCHECK :WEBSERVER update failed, Diffrent Mapname" A typing error perhaps? Or a error on webserver vs Blizzards maming scheme? Blame blizzard. The webserver did not update. On June 17 2012 10:46 eXigent. wrote: Hi skeldark , I was just wondering if you would be able to help me with my problem. I have the tool installed, and it seems to be working when it comes to analyzing games. However, my graph doesnt ever show anything, and I cannot see any promotion lines. Also, the MMR on the side is at -9000ish. Here is a pic showing what I mean.Am I doing something horribly wrong? play more games... On June 17 2012 12:42 feddonator wrote: Hi all, I started this tool and played a game, my log says this: + Show Spoiler + 13:16:15 MMR-Stats 4.2.3 13:16:15 --------INIT START-------- 13:16:15 OK File-Encoding UTF-8 13:16:15 OK Data-Settings loaded! 13:16:15 ERROR No Data Found! Time to ladder... 13:16:15 OK Database loaded! 13:16:15 DB Version:8.0 13:16:17 OK DB up to date! 13:16:17 OK Triggers ready! 13:16:17 OK Gameobserver: ready! 13:16:18 OK: Program is up to date 13:16:18 --------INIT END-------- 13:17:52 -------------------------- 13:17:52 Game Start detected 13:18:36 Webgrabber: Player true 13:18:36 No Profile, skip 13:18:36 Webgrabber: Opponent false 13:18:36 PRE-Trigger done 13:28:53 Webgrabber: Player true 13:28:56 Webgrabber: Opponent true 13:28:56 Adjused Calculate Player:true 13:28:56 DATA Alg.B: failed, No Bonus Win 13:28:56 ERROR AFTERCHECK All algorithem failed 13:28:56 Adjused Calculate Opponent: false 13:28:56 Gamecheck: true 13:28:56 POST-Trigger done 13:28:56 OK Good Game! 13:28:58 OK Uploader: game uploaded 13:28:58 Ladder Game Done! 13:28:58 -------------------------- and i have no graph yet, what have i done wrong? thanks for the help Nothing. Memoryscanner disabled + you lost the game + opponent dont have bonuspool = No data. | ||
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Lysergic
United States355 Posts
Config - Data - DataEditor will show what games have been stored. Skeldark, have you thought about implementing the mmr calculator for 2v2? Is it possible? | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On June 17 2012 13:28 lysergic wrote: exigent and feddonator, It's most likely just bad data, games without enough data for the algorithm to work won't show up on the graph. This happens pretty often, just play more and you'll eventually get valid games. Config - Data - DataEditor will show what games have been stored. Skeldark, have you thought about implementing the mmr calculator for 2v2? Is it possible? thx. In future they will show up all. publish analyser f soon. 2v2 is in theorie possible but a lot of work. for masters only tho. We have not enough data and will not have enough data to find out the offsets for 2v2. Because of the few playercount, the amount of work and that i only can do it for master i decided not to implement it. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
my new analyser can use all games. Thats his advantage and his disadvantage. A single old wrong datapoint, can destroy a hole area ( there is an autocorrection that he dont destroy everything ) Also i guess the mmr for games that have bad data. what is kind of accurate. I had a bad game in my data that i did not realise. The new analyser guessed 7 games total wrong because of that. After removing the game it looks better than ever. So im not sure what to think about him now... The other problem is: how could this bad game pass the tests... oO | ||
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SyzygySC
Australia4 Posts
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On June 17 2012 16:39 feddonator wrote: hey what do the e+ e- and no stand for under the graph? soz if this has been answered somewhere help - options - analyser i see i dont have good data from you, so you dont see anything in the analyser yet. All your games are caped. Play one and you will hopefull get good data. My new analyser will than also show the games he can not show at the moment in the second he have one good dataset to compare. When i think over it: forget e- and e+. i upload f soon.^^ ----- Edit , update: Tests look good. Some people have jumps in the graph but 80% are flawless See this guy with algo:f Gamecount: 43 Average difference between expected and calculated: 4.23 That means his games have in average 4 mmr diffrence to what i expect them to be! And no game bigger have a difference bigger than 15! Whats lucky because the deviation of the f function is even bigger. | ||
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