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afiLiazn
Profile Joined February 2012
United States47 Posts
December 28 2012 01:53 GMT
#2181
just want to check if the calculator is still accurate as well....

[image loading]

just seemed odd to me that it would jump so high, lol.
afiLiazn
Profile Joined February 2012
United States47 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 01:54:10
December 28 2012 01:53 GMT
#2182
oops, double post sorry
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
December 28 2012 02:04 GMT
#2183
my MMR jumped a ton too

I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising.

But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD
Getting back into sc2 O_o
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
December 28 2012 02:10 GMT
#2184
On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote:
my MMR jumped a ton too

I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising.

But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD



</3
Cereal
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 06:22:43
December 28 2012 05:38 GMT
#2185
EDIT:

Found it!
Bug gave all master players diamond bonuspool. So the MMR for master was calculated to high!

A little "else" was missing. Small mistake big impact!
+ Show Spoiler +

if (aplayer.league.equals("master")) {
aplayer.totalbonuspool = master_bonuspool(server);
}
[else ] if(aplayer.league.equals("grandmaster")) {
aplayer.totalbonuspool = master_bonuspool(server);
} else {
aplayer.totalbonuspool = dia_bonuspool(server);
}


cleaned it:
+ Show Spoiler +

if (aplayer.league.equals("master") || aplayer.league.equals("grandmaster") ) {
aplayer.totalbonuspool = master_bonuspool(aplayer.server);
}
else {
aplayer.totalbonuspool = dia_bonuspool(aplayer.server);
}


Version 7.9 up!
Save gaming: kill esport
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
December 28 2012 12:56 GMT
#2186
On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote:
my MMR jumped a ton too

I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising.

But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD



</3

Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself

So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad?
Getting back into sc2 O_o
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
December 28 2012 13:42 GMT
#2187
On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote:
my MMR jumped a ton too

I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising.

But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD



</3

Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself

So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad?

Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh.
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
December 28 2012 14:55 GMT
#2188
On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote:
my MMR jumped a ton too

I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising.

But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD



</3

Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself

So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad?

Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh.


96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad.

Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad.
Cereal
sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
December 28 2012 15:11 GMT
#2189
Not sure if this is wide-spread or not, but my plugin seems stuck on "finding games with better" data after I updated the version.

I know you're supposed to "just keep playing" but I'm literally at over 220 ladder games since I started trying to gather data. If 220 games isn't enough of a sample size for this to extrapolate something... lol
Enlightened in an age of anti-intellectualism and quotidian repetitiveness of asinine assumptive thinking. Best lycan guide evar --> "Fixing solo queue all pick one game at a time." ~KwarK-
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 17:21:08
December 28 2012 17:14 GMT
#2190
On December 28 2012 23:55 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote:
my MMR jumped a ton too

I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising.

But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD



</3

Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself

So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad?

Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh.


96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad.

Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad.


Master is way more than 2% by now. But Skill move in the gauss glock not linear.
So over 80% of master players are in the first 50% of master mmr.




On December 29 2012 00:11 sCCrooked wrote:
Not sure if this is wide-spread or not, but my plugin seems stuck on "finding games with better" data after I updated the version.

I know you're supposed to "just keep playing" but I'm literally at over 220 ladder games since I started trying to gather data. If 220 games isn't enough of a sample size for this to extrapolate something... lol


Its not about the mass. I need only 1 good game. More games increase the chance to get it.
Do you have any error messages while playing?
You have memory-scanner on?
When not do you always get 75% games?
What league are you? Masters? in masters there is no cap rule so if you play master opponents something is wrong with your data!


Save gaming: kill esport
sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 19:18:28
December 28 2012 19:18 GMT
#2191
On December 29 2012 02:14 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 23:55 InfCereal wrote:
On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote:
my MMR jumped a ton too

I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising.

But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD



</3

Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself

So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad?

Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh.


96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad.

Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad.


Master is way more than 2% by now. But Skill move in the gauss glock not linear.
So over 80% of master players are in the first 50% of master mmr.




Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 00:11 sCCrooked wrote:
Not sure if this is wide-spread or not, but my plugin seems stuck on "finding games with better" data after I updated the version.

I know you're supposed to "just keep playing" but I'm literally at over 220 ladder games since I started trying to gather data. If 220 games isn't enough of a sample size for this to extrapolate something... lol


Its not about the mass. I need only 1 good game. More games increase the chance to get it.
Do you have any error messages while playing?
You have memory-scanner on?
When not do you always get 75% games?
What league are you? Masters? in masters there is no cap rule so if you play master opponents something is wrong with your data!




-I know more games increases it, but I'm starting to wonder if there's just something wrong with maybe how I updated or installed the new version since 220+ games apparently is not yet producing 1 good game for data

-I have no errors

-Yes I have memory-scanner on

-I'm not sure what this 75% question means

-I've been masters using this tool for about 4 seasons now and I'm around 1300+ masters so its not like I'm facing diamonds.

I had no troubles with this tool until I just tried updating to 7.9
Enlightened in an age of anti-intellectualism and quotidian repetitiveness of asinine assumptive thinking. Best lycan guide evar --> "Fixing solo queue all pick one game at a time." ~KwarK-
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 20:19:52
December 28 2012 20:18 GMT
#2192
On December 29 2012 04:18 sCCrooked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 02:14 skeldark wrote:
On December 28 2012 23:55 InfCereal wrote:
On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote:
my MMR jumped a ton too

I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising.

But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD



</3

Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself

So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad?

Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh.


96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad.

Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad.


Master is way more than 2% by now. But Skill move in the gauss glock not linear.
So over 80% of master players are in the first 50% of master mmr.




On December 29 2012 00:11 sCCrooked wrote:
Not sure if this is wide-spread or not, but my plugin seems stuck on "finding games with better" data after I updated the version.

I know you're supposed to "just keep playing" but I'm literally at over 220 ladder games since I started trying to gather data. If 220 games isn't enough of a sample size for this to extrapolate something... lol


Its not about the mass. I need only 1 good game. More games increase the chance to get it.
Do you have any error messages while playing?
You have memory-scanner on?
When not do you always get 75% games?
What league are you? Masters? in masters there is no cap rule so if you play master opponents something is wrong with your data!




-I know more games increases it, but I'm starting to wonder if there's just something wrong with maybe how I updated or installed the new version since 220+ games apparently is not yet producing 1 good game for data

-I have no errors

-Yes I have memory-scanner on

-I'm not sure what this 75% question means

-I've been masters using this tool for about 4 seasons now and I'm around 1300+ masters so its not like I'm facing diamonds.

I had no troubles with this tool until I just tried updating to 7.9

after game you see a % how much the analyse likes your game.

If you played a master it cant be caped. So there is an mistake.
You had good game before and last patch destroyed them all? that should not happen.
You see all 220 games in your graph ? but they are all orange?
Save gaming: kill esport
justnny
Profile Joined October 2010
United States171 Posts
December 28 2012 20:52 GMT
#2193
Thanks skeldark, all the issues seem to be fixed with the website and the new versions. I'm still getting fluctuations, but it appears to be correcting itself with more and more new, sane data.
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
December 28 2012 21:28 GMT
#2194
On December 28 2012 23:55 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote:
my MMR jumped a ton too

I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising.

But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD



</3

Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself

So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad?

Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh.


96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad.

Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad.

Yeah. I remember reading an article explaining why masters players think they're bad. Basically, it just comes down to goal setting. When I play, I make a lot of mistakes. I see this as bad. People lower ranked than me make even more mistakes, which I see as bad too. Really everyone's bad (to some extent obviously), it's just about trying to improve your game and minimize badness

What I meant was that I played terribly but still went nearly undefeated after not playing for a week or so, I guess breaks are beneficial! Either that or a friend hacked my account and deranked a bit.

But on topic, glad to know that everything's working fine and my MMR isn't as high as I wished, haha. Hopefully the season change goes smoothly.
Getting back into sc2 O_o
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
December 28 2012 21:32 GMT
#2195
On December 29 2012 06:28 Mavvie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 23:55 InfCereal wrote:
On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote:
my MMR jumped a ton too

I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising.

But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD



</3

Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself

So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad?

Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh.


96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad.

Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad.

Yeah. I remember reading an article explaining why masters players think they're bad. Basically, it just comes down to goal setting. When I play, I make a lot of mistakes. I see this as bad. People lower ranked than me make even more mistakes, which I see as bad too. Really everyone's bad (to some extent obviously), it's just about trying to improve your game and minimize badness

What I meant was that I played terribly but still went nearly undefeated after not playing for a week or so, I guess breaks are beneficial! Either that or a friend hacked my account and deranked a bit.

But on topic, glad to know that everything's working fine and my MMR isn't as high as I wished, haha. Hopefully the season change goes smoothly.



Yeah, I agree with you. I only play every 3-5 days, and I play much better like that than if I play every day.
Cereal
sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
December 28 2012 21:32 GMT
#2196
On December 29 2012 05:18 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 04:18 sCCrooked wrote:
On December 29 2012 02:14 skeldark wrote:
On December 28 2012 23:55 InfCereal wrote:
On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote:
my MMR jumped a ton too

I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising.

But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD



</3

Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself

So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad?

Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh.


96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad.

Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad.


Master is way more than 2% by now. But Skill move in the gauss glock not linear.
So over 80% of master players are in the first 50% of master mmr.




On December 29 2012 00:11 sCCrooked wrote:
Not sure if this is wide-spread or not, but my plugin seems stuck on "finding games with better" data after I updated the version.

I know you're supposed to "just keep playing" but I'm literally at over 220 ladder games since I started trying to gather data. If 220 games isn't enough of a sample size for this to extrapolate something... lol


Its not about the mass. I need only 1 good game. More games increase the chance to get it.
Do you have any error messages while playing?
You have memory-scanner on?
When not do you always get 75% games?
What league are you? Masters? in masters there is no cap rule so if you play master opponents something is wrong with your data!




-I know more games increases it, but I'm starting to wonder if there's just something wrong with maybe how I updated or installed the new version since 220+ games apparently is not yet producing 1 good game for data

-I have no errors

-Yes I have memory-scanner on

-I'm not sure what this 75% question means

-I've been masters using this tool for about 4 seasons now and I'm around 1300+ masters so its not like I'm facing diamonds.

I had no troubles with this tool until I just tried updating to 7.9

after game you see a % how much the analyse likes your game.

If you played a master it cant be caped. So there is an mistake.
You had good game before and last patch destroyed them all? that should not happen.
You see all 220 games in your graph ? but they are all orange?


I actually do not even get a graph anymore. It sits there going "Need Better Data 0/237" at the moment.
Enlightened in an age of anti-intellectualism and quotidian repetitiveness of asinine assumptive thinking. Best lycan guide evar --> "Fixing solo queue all pick one game at a time." ~KwarK-
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
December 28 2012 22:13 GMT
#2197
On December 29 2012 06:32 sCCrooked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 05:18 skeldark wrote:
On December 29 2012 04:18 sCCrooked wrote:
On December 29 2012 02:14 skeldark wrote:
On December 28 2012 23:55 InfCereal wrote:
On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote:
On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote:
On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote:
my MMR jumped a ton too

I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising.

But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD



</3

Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself

So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad?

Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh.


96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad.

Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad.


Master is way more than 2% by now. But Skill move in the gauss glock not linear.
So over 80% of master players are in the first 50% of master mmr.




On December 29 2012 00:11 sCCrooked wrote:
Not sure if this is wide-spread or not, but my plugin seems stuck on "finding games with better" data after I updated the version.

I know you're supposed to "just keep playing" but I'm literally at over 220 ladder games since I started trying to gather data. If 220 games isn't enough of a sample size for this to extrapolate something... lol


Its not about the mass. I need only 1 good game. More games increase the chance to get it.
Do you have any error messages while playing?
You have memory-scanner on?
When not do you always get 75% games?
What league are you? Masters? in masters there is no cap rule so if you play master opponents something is wrong with your data!




-I know more games increases it, but I'm starting to wonder if there's just something wrong with maybe how I updated or installed the new version since 220+ games apparently is not yet producing 1 good game for data

-I have no errors

-Yes I have memory-scanner on

-I'm not sure what this 75% question means

-I've been masters using this tool for about 4 seasons now and I'm around 1300+ masters so its not like I'm facing diamonds.

I had no troubles with this tool until I just tried updating to 7.9

after game you see a % how much the analyse likes your game.

If you played a master it cant be caped. So there is an mistake.
You had good game before and last patch destroyed them all? that should not happen.
You see all 220 games in your graph ? but they are all orange?


I actually do not even get a graph anymore. It sits there going "Need Better Data 0/237" at the moment.

I know I'm not skeldark, but I imagine this is what he'd say:
What does the log say when you play a game? Obviously some step of the process is failing completely, and if you post the log after playing a game it should provide more information.
Getting back into sc2 O_o
enanoretozon
Profile Joined March 2012
Panama57 Posts
December 30 2012 10:13 GMT
#2198
On December 28 2012 14:38 skeldark wrote:
EDIT:



Version 7.9 up!



The download link http://skeletor.jimmeh.com/mmr/MMRPlugin.zip for 7.9 still shows as 7.7 when I install it. Wondering if it's just a label issue.

Name: MMR Stats
Author: Skeletor -
Email: mmrcalculator@hotmail.de
Version: 7.7
Release date: 2012-01-01
API version: 3.0
Home page: http://skeletor.jimmeh.com/
Fenneth
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia354 Posts
December 30 2012 10:33 GMT
#2199
Thanks for all the work you put into this skeldark. <3
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 11:14:09
December 30 2012 11:13 GMT
#2200
On December 30 2012 19:13 enanoretozon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 14:38 skeldark wrote:
EDIT:



Version 7.9 up!



The download link http://skeletor.jimmeh.com/mmr/MMRPlugin.zip for 7.9 still shows as 7.7 when I install it. Wondering if it's just a label issue.

Name: MMR Stats
Author: Skeletor -
Email: mmrcalculator@hotmail.de
Version: 7.7
Release date: 2012-01-01
API version: 3.0
Home page: http://skeletor.jimmeh.com/

Yes it is.
I always forget to change the version number in the XML file.
The important number is the one in the Log window.


On December 30 2012 19:33 Fenneth wrote:
Thanks for all the work you put into this skeldark. <3

No Problem. Its fun for me.... sometimes ...
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