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just seemed odd to me that it would jump so high, lol.
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afiLiazn
United States47 Posts
![]() just seemed odd to me that it would jump so high, lol. | ||
afiLiazn
United States47 Posts
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Mavvie
Canada923 Posts
I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising. But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD | ||
InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote: my MMR jumped a ton too I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising. But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD </3 | ||
skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
Found it! Bug gave all master players diamond bonuspool. So the MMR for master was calculated to high! A little "else" was missing. Small mistake big impact! + Show Spoiler + if (aplayer.league.equals("master")) { aplayer.totalbonuspool = master_bonuspool(server); } [else ] if(aplayer.league.equals("grandmaster")) { aplayer.totalbonuspool = master_bonuspool(server); } else { aplayer.totalbonuspool = dia_bonuspool(server); } cleaned it: + Show Spoiler + if (aplayer.league.equals("master") || aplayer.league.equals("grandmaster") ) { aplayer.totalbonuspool = master_bonuspool(aplayer.server); } else { aplayer.totalbonuspool = dia_bonuspool(aplayer.server); } Version 7.9 up! | ||
Mavvie
Canada923 Posts
On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote: my MMR jumped a ton too I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising. But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD </3 Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad? ![]() | ||
Hairy
United Kingdom1169 Posts
On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote: On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote: my MMR jumped a ton too I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising. But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD </3 Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad? ![]() Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh. | ||
InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote: On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote: On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote: my MMR jumped a ton too I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising. But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD </3 Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad? ![]() Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh. 96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad. Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad. | ||
sCCrooked
Korea (South)1306 Posts
I know you're supposed to "just keep playing" but I'm literally at over 220 ladder games since I started trying to gather data. If 220 games isn't enough of a sample size for this to extrapolate something... lol | ||
skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On December 28 2012 23:55 InfCereal wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote: On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote: On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote: On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote: my MMR jumped a ton too I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising. But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD </3 Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad? ![]() Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh. 96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad. Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad. Master is way more than 2% by now. But Skill move in the gauss glock not linear. So over 80% of master players are in the first 50% of master mmr. On December 29 2012 00:11 sCCrooked wrote: Not sure if this is wide-spread or not, but my plugin seems stuck on "finding games with better" data after I updated the version. I know you're supposed to "just keep playing" but I'm literally at over 220 ladder games since I started trying to gather data. If 220 games isn't enough of a sample size for this to extrapolate something... lol Its not about the mass. I need only 1 good game. More games increase the chance to get it. Do you have any error messages while playing? You have memory-scanner on? When not do you always get 75% games? What league are you? Masters? in masters there is no cap rule so if you play master opponents something is wrong with your data! | ||
sCCrooked
Korea (South)1306 Posts
On December 29 2012 02:14 skeldark wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2012 23:55 InfCereal wrote: On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote: On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote: On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote: On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote: my MMR jumped a ton too I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising. But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD </3 Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad? ![]() Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh. 96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad. Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad. Master is way more than 2% by now. But Skill move in the gauss glock not linear. So over 80% of master players are in the first 50% of master mmr. Show nested quote + On December 29 2012 00:11 sCCrooked wrote: Not sure if this is wide-spread or not, but my plugin seems stuck on "finding games with better" data after I updated the version. I know you're supposed to "just keep playing" but I'm literally at over 220 ladder games since I started trying to gather data. If 220 games isn't enough of a sample size for this to extrapolate something... lol Its not about the mass. I need only 1 good game. More games increase the chance to get it. Do you have any error messages while playing? You have memory-scanner on? When not do you always get 75% games? What league are you? Masters? in masters there is no cap rule so if you play master opponents something is wrong with your data! -I know more games increases it, but I'm starting to wonder if there's just something wrong with maybe how I updated or installed the new version since 220+ games apparently is not yet producing 1 good game for data -I have no errors -Yes I have memory-scanner on -I'm not sure what this 75% question means -I've been masters using this tool for about 4 seasons now and I'm around 1300+ masters so its not like I'm facing diamonds. I had no troubles with this tool until I just tried updating to 7.9 | ||
skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On December 29 2012 04:18 sCCrooked wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2012 02:14 skeldark wrote: On December 28 2012 23:55 InfCereal wrote: On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote: On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote: On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote: On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote: my MMR jumped a ton too I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising. But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD </3 Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad? ![]() Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh. 96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad. Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad. Master is way more than 2% by now. But Skill move in the gauss glock not linear. So over 80% of master players are in the first 50% of master mmr. On December 29 2012 00:11 sCCrooked wrote: Not sure if this is wide-spread or not, but my plugin seems stuck on "finding games with better" data after I updated the version. I know you're supposed to "just keep playing" but I'm literally at over 220 ladder games since I started trying to gather data. If 220 games isn't enough of a sample size for this to extrapolate something... lol Its not about the mass. I need only 1 good game. More games increase the chance to get it. Do you have any error messages while playing? You have memory-scanner on? When not do you always get 75% games? What league are you? Masters? in masters there is no cap rule so if you play master opponents something is wrong with your data! -I know more games increases it, but I'm starting to wonder if there's just something wrong with maybe how I updated or installed the new version since 220+ games apparently is not yet producing 1 good game for data -I have no errors -Yes I have memory-scanner on -I'm not sure what this 75% question means -I've been masters using this tool for about 4 seasons now and I'm around 1300+ masters so its not like I'm facing diamonds. I had no troubles with this tool until I just tried updating to 7.9 after game you see a % how much the analyse likes your game. If you played a master it cant be caped. So there is an mistake. You had good game before and last patch destroyed them all? that should not happen. You see all 220 games in your graph ? but they are all orange? | ||
justnny
United States171 Posts
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Mavvie
Canada923 Posts
On December 28 2012 23:55 InfCereal wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote: On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote: On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote: On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote: my MMR jumped a ton too I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising. But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD </3 Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad? ![]() Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh. 96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad. Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad. Yeah. I remember reading an article explaining why masters players think they're bad. Basically, it just comes down to goal setting. When I play, I make a lot of mistakes. I see this as bad. People lower ranked than me make even more mistakes, which I see as bad too. Really everyone's bad (to some extent obviously), it's just about trying to improve your game and minimize badness ![]() What I meant was that I played terribly but still went nearly undefeated after not playing for a week or so, I guess breaks are beneficial! Either that or a friend hacked my account and deranked a bit. But on topic, glad to know that everything's working fine and my MMR isn't as high as I wished, haha. Hopefully the season change goes smoothly. | ||
InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On December 29 2012 06:28 Mavvie wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2012 23:55 InfCereal wrote: On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote: On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote: On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote: On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote: my MMR jumped a ton too I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising. But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD </3 Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad? ![]() Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh. 96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad. Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad. Yeah. I remember reading an article explaining why masters players think they're bad. Basically, it just comes down to goal setting. When I play, I make a lot of mistakes. I see this as bad. People lower ranked than me make even more mistakes, which I see as bad too. Really everyone's bad (to some extent obviously), it's just about trying to improve your game and minimize badness ![]() What I meant was that I played terribly but still went nearly undefeated after not playing for a week or so, I guess breaks are beneficial! Either that or a friend hacked my account and deranked a bit. But on topic, glad to know that everything's working fine and my MMR isn't as high as I wished, haha. Hopefully the season change goes smoothly. Yeah, I agree with you. I only play every 3-5 days, and I play much better like that than if I play every day. | ||
sCCrooked
Korea (South)1306 Posts
On December 29 2012 05:18 skeldark wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2012 04:18 sCCrooked wrote: On December 29 2012 02:14 skeldark wrote: On December 28 2012 23:55 InfCereal wrote: On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote: On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote: On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote: On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote: my MMR jumped a ton too I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising. But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD </3 Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad? ![]() Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh. 96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad. Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad. Master is way more than 2% by now. But Skill move in the gauss glock not linear. So over 80% of master players are in the first 50% of master mmr. On December 29 2012 00:11 sCCrooked wrote: Not sure if this is wide-spread or not, but my plugin seems stuck on "finding games with better" data after I updated the version. I know you're supposed to "just keep playing" but I'm literally at over 220 ladder games since I started trying to gather data. If 220 games isn't enough of a sample size for this to extrapolate something... lol Its not about the mass. I need only 1 good game. More games increase the chance to get it. Do you have any error messages while playing? You have memory-scanner on? When not do you always get 75% games? What league are you? Masters? in masters there is no cap rule so if you play master opponents something is wrong with your data! -I know more games increases it, but I'm starting to wonder if there's just something wrong with maybe how I updated or installed the new version since 220+ games apparently is not yet producing 1 good game for data -I have no errors -Yes I have memory-scanner on -I'm not sure what this 75% question means -I've been masters using this tool for about 4 seasons now and I'm around 1300+ masters so its not like I'm facing diamonds. I had no troubles with this tool until I just tried updating to 7.9 after game you see a % how much the analyse likes your game. If you played a master it cant be caped. So there is an mistake. You had good game before and last patch destroyed them all? that should not happen. You see all 220 games in your graph ? but they are all orange? I actually do not even get a graph anymore. It sits there going "Need Better Data 0/237" at the moment. | ||
Mavvie
Canada923 Posts
On December 29 2012 06:32 sCCrooked wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2012 05:18 skeldark wrote: On December 29 2012 04:18 sCCrooked wrote: On December 29 2012 02:14 skeldark wrote: On December 28 2012 23:55 InfCereal wrote: On December 28 2012 22:42 Hairy wrote: On December 28 2012 21:56 Mavvie wrote: On December 28 2012 11:10 InfCereal wrote: On December 28 2012 11:04 Mavvie wrote: my MMR jumped a ton too I went 11-2 and my MMR increased by 400, but I guess that's not that surprising. But damn, people at 2k mmr are BAD </3 Aaaaand turns out I'm still at only 2.1k myself So let's agree that people with <2k MMR are bad? ![]() Doesn't that mean you think ~96% of the sc2 playerbase are "bad"? Seems a little harsh. 96 is actually too low. Given all things are perfect, master league and above should make up 2% of the population. Given that master league starts at 1650, with the midpoint being 2125, you're probably saying 99% of the population is bad. Which would be true depending on your perspective. Obviously if you see someone as worse than yourself, you see them as bad. Master is way more than 2% by now. But Skill move in the gauss glock not linear. So over 80% of master players are in the first 50% of master mmr. On December 29 2012 00:11 sCCrooked wrote: Not sure if this is wide-spread or not, but my plugin seems stuck on "finding games with better" data after I updated the version. I know you're supposed to "just keep playing" but I'm literally at over 220 ladder games since I started trying to gather data. If 220 games isn't enough of a sample size for this to extrapolate something... lol Its not about the mass. I need only 1 good game. More games increase the chance to get it. Do you have any error messages while playing? You have memory-scanner on? When not do you always get 75% games? What league are you? Masters? in masters there is no cap rule so if you play master opponents something is wrong with your data! -I know more games increases it, but I'm starting to wonder if there's just something wrong with maybe how I updated or installed the new version since 220+ games apparently is not yet producing 1 good game for data -I have no errors -Yes I have memory-scanner on -I'm not sure what this 75% question means -I've been masters using this tool for about 4 seasons now and I'm around 1300+ masters so its not like I'm facing diamonds. I had no troubles with this tool until I just tried updating to 7.9 after game you see a % how much the analyse likes your game. If you played a master it cant be caped. So there is an mistake. You had good game before and last patch destroyed them all? that should not happen. You see all 220 games in your graph ? but they are all orange? I actually do not even get a graph anymore. It sits there going "Need Better Data 0/237" at the moment. I know I'm not skeldark, but I imagine this is what he'd say: What does the log say when you play a game? Obviously some step of the process is failing completely, and if you post the log after playing a game it should provide more information. | ||
enanoretozon
Panama57 Posts
On December 28 2012 14:38 skeldark wrote: EDIT: Version 7.9 up! The download link http://skeletor.jimmeh.com/mmr/MMRPlugin.zip for 7.9 still shows as 7.7 when I install it. Wondering if it's just a label issue. Name: MMR Stats Author: Skeletor - Email: mmrcalculator@hotmail.de Version: 7.7 Release date: 2012-01-01 API version: 3.0 Home page: http://skeletor.jimmeh.com/ | ||
Fenneth
Australia354 Posts
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On December 30 2012 19:13 enanoretozon wrote: The download link http://skeletor.jimmeh.com/mmr/MMRPlugin.zip for 7.9 still shows as 7.7 when I install it. Wondering if it's just a label issue. Name: MMR Stats Author: Skeletor - Email: mmrcalculator@hotmail.de Version: 7.7 Release date: 2012-01-01 API version: 3.0 Home page: http://skeletor.jimmeh.com/ Yes it is. I always forget to change the version number in the XML file. The important number is the one in the Log window. On December 30 2012 19:33 Fenneth wrote: Thanks for all the work you put into this skeldark. <3 No Problem. Its fun for me.... sometimes ... | ||
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