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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
April 30 2012 06:47 GMT
#241
On April 30 2012 15:42 MrStabby wrote:
gj blizzard you are stupid faggots u made b.net 2.0 10 times worse than orignial b.net FAGGOTS


Wow that is just not ok. Not that I disagree with bnet 2.0 being worse, but calling someone a Faggot isnt ok anywhere. You should go play some Halo......
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
BalanceFx
Profile Joined July 2010
United States72 Posts
May 01 2012 01:47 GMT
#242
On April 30 2012 15:13 DyEnasTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 12:58 BalanceFx wrote:
I am willing to see what blizzard delivers.

The transforming hellion idea is cool and kinda gets a firebat like unit in the game. (Personally I l'd like to see it split back to add the firebat and eliminate the hellion and add the vulture back but Transforming hellion seems cool)

Terran seems like the transforming race... Command center can transform, siege tank can deploy (Kind of transform), the Viking obviously... Maybe they will take that idea forward and let all mech/fliers transform. The medivac could land and transform into a healing bunker... not sure about the raven... I like the raven but I think the HSM is kinda gimmicky... Personally I see no need for the Thor... its too big and doesn't fit imho with terrans... I did like it in the campaign but even there it seemed kind of a big hero unit... Goliaths were fine but you could always eliminate the thor and let a landed viking serve as a goliath like unit.... (They seem similar already) who knows....




This truly disappoints me to the core. "Terran the transformer race..... hellion idea cool.....landed viking serve as a goliath like unit...."

So many things wrong with this.


First

1) Terrans are not transformers in the Starcraft universe.
2) the battle hellion is a transformer.
3) landed vikings are transformers...

See where im going with this? Blizzard is obsessed with trying to "remake SC" so they can be "original". But they went a complete 180 degrees the wrong direction with at least 1 race + Show Spoiler +
Terran duh
.

I think they are on the right track with Zerg, although the macro mechanics of the game prevent the power of this race from truly shining. Their units are supposed to be weak and throwaway. But either change mechanics, or buff the race. And Blizzard is proud of their mechanics, so only one option there.


It just looks like where blizz is going with Terran. If its working than run with it? Terran imho are very versatile and can toss out a variety of builds and make for one of the more fun races to watch. I also feel people who know nothing about SC2 can easily connect to Terran and "get" it. (You have to explain the other races more to noobs, but most noobs don't need to be told that a tank shoots big bullet and the viking shoots the rockets etc etc)

Is transforming bad? I did say my preference would be to add the vulture and firebat and eliminate the hellion but what blizzard is doing now doesn't really seem bad... still fun to watch and play. :D
When you understand why you reject all other gods, you will understand why I reject yours as well. --Stephen Roberts
dacimvrl
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State582 Posts
May 01 2012 01:48 GMT
#243
would they include the mp portion or only the sp portion of hots?
RavenLoud
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1100 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 01:57:44
May 01 2012 01:56 GMT
#244
I think the point is that terran went from the scrappy, fragile, uneducated yet strong willed colonial future-wild-west types who has to resort to getting as much as possible from their limited tools in order to stand up to the fearsome aliens, to this super robot transformers thing that one would expect more from Gundam/anime than a dark military game like SC1.

In that case I agree, the "feel" of terran has definitely changed in SC2, more so than the other 2 races.

It's not necessarily a balance thing, just a "feeling", like how Artosis switched races because he said the marauder just goes against everything he fought for as a terran in SC1.
TheDraken
Profile Joined July 2011
United States640 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 02:05:33
May 01 2012 02:05 GMT
#245
On April 28 2012 11:33 ScouraE wrote:
hmm...way too fast, they still need some more time to tweak it, we still haven't seen what did they do to it yet, nor have a chance to try it,nor have a chance to say why somethings still need to be fixed.
tbh i want blizzard to adapt the valve time, I rather wait long for a better quality game than to have a game that still has features missing even after release (WoL anyone?)


wow i'm glad you're reporting from blizzard's offices to let us know what they've done with the game. please, give us more of your inside information.

...

at this point the only way to efficiently tweak it is to push it out to beta and let everyone bitch about it. then they'll actually know what they need to correct.

fast food. y u no make me fast? <( ಠ益ಠ <)
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
May 01 2012 02:07 GMT
#246
On April 28 2012 10:47 Highways wrote:
Rushing too fast.

Was hoping for a major revamp of Protoss (in particular warp gates). So far HOTS is just a few extra units.

Poor form by Blizzard.



Your expecting a new game in Hots but its just an expansion with new units, balance changes,some old units removed,new maps,patch 1.5(before or after hots release) etc..
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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 01 2012 02:08 GMT
#247
Lol @ all the people who think they have creative control over the game.

Blizzard is the one who decides the concept of the races not you deal with it.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
dacimvrl
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State582 Posts
May 01 2012 02:09 GMT
#248
On April 28 2012 10:47 Highways wrote:
Rushing too fast.

Was hoping for a major revamp of Protoss (in particular warp gates). So far HOTS is just a few extra units.

Poor form by Blizzard.


rushing?? wtf?

besides, imo, HoTS is already a huge vamp for every race.
TheDraken
Profile Joined July 2011
United States640 Posts
May 01 2012 02:11 GMT
#249
On April 28 2012 12:23 Emporio wrote:
How did additional beta keys get given out for WoL? I kinda forgot how that all went since I never got one.


it was a pre-order system. if you put down $5 you could reserve a copy for yourself and get a beta key on your receipt. i remember quite well since i preordered a bunch of games (so just deposited like $5 for 6 people) and brought back beta keys for everyone. only 2 of us actually ended up buying the game, but for others it was worth the $5 to play the beta.
fast food. y u no make me fast? <( ಠ益ಠ <)
dacimvrl
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State582 Posts
May 01 2012 02:14 GMT
#250
I can't wait, and hopefully I get into the beta again!! This will, however, eat up some of my D3 time
Smackzilla
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States539 Posts
May 01 2012 02:21 GMT
#251
On May 01 2012 10:56 RavenLoud wrote:
I think the point is that terran went from the scrappy, fragile, uneducated yet strong willed colonial future-wild-west types who has to resort to getting as much as possible from their limited tools in order to stand up to the fearsome aliens, to this super robot transformers thing that one would expect more from Gundam/anime than a dark military game like SC1.

In that case I agree, the "feel" of terran has definitely changed in SC2, more so than the other 2 races.

It's not necessarily a balance thing, just a "feeling", like how Artosis switched races because he said the marauder just goes against everything he fought for as a terran in SC1.


I thought artosis just picked what was OP. Zerg in the beta with 1 food raoches and then over to Toss when he couldnt hack zerg.
You see a mousetrap. I see free cheese and a f&%*ing challenge - Scroobius Pip
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
May 01 2012 02:29 GMT
#252
On April 30 2012 15:47 DyEnasTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 15:42 MrStabby wrote:
gj blizzard you are stupid faggots u made b.net 2.0 10 times worse than orignial b.net FAGGOTS


Wow that is just not ok. Not that I disagree with bnet 2.0 being worse, but calling someone a Faggot isnt ok anywhere. You should go play some Halo......


You don't need to crap on Halo, either.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
May 01 2012 02:35 GMT
#253
On May 01 2012 11:29 Bear4188 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 15:47 DyEnasTy wrote:
On April 30 2012 15:42 MrStabby wrote:
gj blizzard you are stupid faggots u made b.net 2.0 10 times worse than orignial b.net FAGGOTS


Wow that is just not ok. Not that I disagree with bnet 2.0 being worse, but calling someone a Faggot isnt ok anywhere. You should go play some Halo......


You don't need to crap on Halo, either.


Stop down-talking feces as well please.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
May 01 2012 02:38 GMT
#254
On May 01 2012 10:48 dacimvrl wrote:
would they include the mp portion or only the sp portion of hots?


Only the multiplayer. That is how the Beta works. No Single Player.
http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/296431601 <------Suscribe! Casts in Spanish :) |||| http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/300285215<----- CSL: Before Sunday! Episode 3!
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
May 01 2012 02:41 GMT
#255
On May 01 2012 11:29 Bear4188 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 15:47 DyEnasTy wrote:
On April 30 2012 15:42 MrStabby wrote:
gj blizzard you are stupid faggots u made b.net 2.0 10 times worse than orignial b.net FAGGOTS


Wow that is just not ok. Not that I disagree with bnet 2.0 being worse, but calling someone a Faggot isnt ok anywhere. You should go play some Halo......


You don't need to crap on Halo, either.


Im not crapping on Halo. I love Halo. I dont love the 13 year old trash talkers who use that word. Do you even play XBL???
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
May 01 2012 02:46 GMT
#256
On May 01 2012 11:38 carloselcoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 10:48 dacimvrl wrote:
would they include the mp portion or only the sp portion of hots?


Only the multiplayer. That is how the Beta works. No Single Player.


The only part that matters
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KarneEspada
Profile Joined May 2011
United States72 Posts
May 01 2012 02:50 GMT
#257
On May 01 2012 11:07 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 10:47 Highways wrote:
Rushing too fast.

Was hoping for a major revamp of Protoss (in particular warp gates). So far HOTS is just a few extra units.

Poor form by Blizzard.



Your expecting a new game in Hots but its just an expansion with new units, balance changes,some old units removed,new maps,patch 1.5(before or after hots release) etc..


Brood War, "just" an expansion?
KespadA, UC Irvine
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
May 01 2012 03:37 GMT
#258
Blizzard's own words:

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We recently announced a partnership with Major League Gaming (MLG) for the World Championship Series. What we didn’t mention at the time was that we’ll be offering attendees a special opportunity play StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm at the MLG Pro Circuit Spring Championship event, being held at the Anaheim Convention Center from June 8-10.


We'll have a number of demo stations at the event to show off the latest multiplayer build of Heart of the Swarm, in advance of the upcoming beta test. Attendees will also be able to catch all the exciting StarCraft II eSports action from MLG's Spring Championship and Blizzard's StarCraft II World Championship Series USA Nationals. Head to MLG's Spring Championship site for information on attending.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/5296836/Heart_of_the_Swarm_at_MLG-4_30_2012#blog




I want you guys to note how they themselves mentioned this:

in advance of the upcoming beta test
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
May 01 2012 03:43 GMT
#259
so how many organs do i need to sell for this beta?
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
May 01 2012 03:46 GMT
#260
On May 01 2012 12:37 carloselcoco wrote:


I want you guys to note how they themselves mentioned this:

Show nested quote +
in advance of the upcoming beta test


To be fair, that's how they always word things. It's a "If we say a date we'll be spammed to hell for being a day late" thing.
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