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Stephano invited to Code S - Page 5

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Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 25 2012 19:26 GMT
#81
On April 26 2012 03:22 ShakkaFL wrote:
i hope at least the hype ends when he gets crushed at gsl <_<


Hehe, boy you know nothing about Stephano do you?

Did you say the same thing about Naniwa this GSL, im sure you did
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
April 25 2012 19:32 GMT
#82
On April 26 2012 04:21 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 04:07 TBone- wrote:
On April 26 2012 04:02 Fionn wrote:
On April 26 2012 03:54 TBone- wrote:
No its cool, you can totally bypass the code a qualifiers, code a, and the bridge between code a and code s. Totally not degrading to the name of code s and is fair to all the players trying to get into the gsl.


MMA, Polt, DRG and MC have all gotten free passes to Code S and they're all champions. Free seeds aren't the most amazing thing on the planet, but Stephano is a deserving choice. He's had international success and will bring in lots of viewers. It's really the best of both worlds.


Oh Stephano is definitely deserving of a seed. It just enhances the story if someone works there way up instead of just taking a short cut. It would just mean so much more if he won code s by going through the traditional path.


Interesting question: if, hypothetically, a seeded player won on their first entry to Code S, would that count as a Royal Road or do you have to work your way through Code A first?

Does it count as a Royal Road if the GSL you win is your first Code S, but you have been in Code A before (eg Hero could potentially do this)?



I think I would define it as qualifying for Code A the first time you play the offline qualifiers, then qualify for Code S from there, then win Code S from there. It's kinda weird since Code S and Code A are much more like one giant tournament then two separate ones, so it's kind of hard to exclude Code A from such an achievement. But you can't actually do that in less than two tournaments, because you can't qualify from Code B AND win Code S in the same season.

Either way, winning Code S the first time you've qualified would be very impressive, regardless of how you got there. But if you wanted to create a "Royal Road" achievement like in BW, I think you would have to start from the beginning (Code B).
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
April 25 2012 19:33 GMT
#83
On April 26 2012 03:05 StarVe wrote:
Hmm, GOM has repeatedly invited Stephano to Code S as far as I know. He just declined every single time. It's not really big news that they offer him a seed again, now, it's just to be expected, if you like it or not.

The interesting thing this time is simply that the's actually considering taking it, because he wants to go to Korea anyway.

Obviously it's also a marketing move, but that doesn't mean it isn't also based on his results.

I'm no advocate of Code S seeds, but it seems like GOM won't stop giving them out anytime soon, so I can live with their decision to give it to Stephano of all players.


Why is it a marketing move ? (marketing noob here)
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
April 25 2012 19:36 GMT
#84
On April 26 2012 03:52 JohnMatrix wrote:
Is somebody ever wins code S with his first attempt


Mvp did....but that was in the first SC2 season that had Code S haha.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
April 25 2012 19:37 GMT
#85
The true foreign hope!
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46310 Posts
April 25 2012 19:37 GMT
#86
I'm not sure if I think anybody deserves to be offered an automatic Code S spot. I believe that even Naniwa also said in a recent interview that he disagreed with the premise of merely giving away Code S seeds, although he also said (quite rationally) that since he was being offered one, he would be stupid to turn it down.

I suppose inviting Stephano all the way into Code S would increase the number of viewers and strengthen any bonds forged between mutual sponsors and tournaments working together (especially the foreign fanbase), but there's really no reason why all players who hypothetically are Code S material shouldn't be able to make it in from the ground up (through qualifiers). I kind of feel that if you want to get into Code S, you should earn it only through managing to get through the qualifiers and Code A, which is grueling and time-consuming, but ultimately rewarding, as the GSL is, after all, the most prestigious tournament there is.

Regardless, since Stephano's being offered a seed, I hope he accepts. It's always nice to see how well the best foreigners measure up to the GSL competition, and Stephano's certainly established himself everywhere else except for the premier tournament. Nowhere to go but Korea now.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
April 25 2012 19:37 GMT
#87
Good luck to Stephano!
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
April 25 2012 19:37 GMT
#88
hope he actually plays!! should be good!!!
Live and Let Die!
`Zapdos
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States935 Posts
April 25 2012 19:38 GMT
#89
On April 26 2012 04:33 Apolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 03:05 StarVe wrote:
Hmm, GOM has repeatedly invited Stephano to Code S as far as I know. He just declined every single time. It's not really big news that they offer him a seed again, now, it's just to be expected, if you like it or not.

The interesting thing this time is simply that the's actually considering taking it, because he wants to go to Korea anyway.

Obviously it's also a marketing move, but that doesn't mean it isn't also based on his results.

I'm no advocate of Code S seeds, but it seems like GOM won't stop giving them out anytime soon, so I can live with their decision to give it to Stephano of all players.


Why is it a marketing move ? (marketing noob here)


Because people like me who don't normally buy gsl tickets will probably pay for that season just to watch stephano and naniwa in the tourny. (Gets more foreign fans to cough up the doe)
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justsayinbro
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
307 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 19:50:11
April 25 2012 19:40 GMT
#90
Is it just me or does it sound like stephano is not capable of making a firm statement. He seems like he is unsure about anything he says. And he is going to Korea but gsl is not his priority? Things like that makes me think he is handing out excuses in advance. Also saying things like I don't practice that much is dumb as he took a leave from school to focus on sc.

Edit: maybe a better way to put this is that he dodges competition n makes excuses? Idk
Lolli92
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany109 Posts
April 25 2012 19:43 GMT
#91
If he leaves just a week or so before the season starts, he will get owned 2-0 in RO 32.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
April 25 2012 19:44 GMT
#92
Most def expected, Mr Chae has Stephano on speed dial. GL if he decides to go.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States801 Posts
April 25 2012 19:44 GMT
#93
congrats stephano!!
CloneXpert
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania9 Posts
April 25 2012 19:45 GMT
#94
I hope he'll participate and dominate! :D
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 19:46:00
April 25 2012 19:45 GMT
#95
Well deserved. Best of luck to him!
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
April 25 2012 19:46 GMT
#96
On April 26 2012 03:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:
He deserves a seed but I don't think he has a serious chance of winning Code S. Everybody in the current Ro8 could beat him imo.

That's the story for every GSL code S player. Look this SICK names:

+ Show Spoiler +
Nestea, DRG, Genius, Mkp


All out. And Naniwa, in his debut season got 2-0'ed too and we think it was too much level for him. He trained, and now got top 8. In code S anyone can win. The important stuff, is being consistently a code S player. And Stephano with korean training, can make it happen.
Chicken gank op
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 19:51:30
April 25 2012 19:46 GMT
#97
On April 26 2012 04:33 Apolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 03:05 StarVe wrote:
Hmm, GOM has repeatedly invited Stephano to Code S as far as I know. He just declined every single time. It's not really big news that they offer him a seed again, now, it's just to be expected, if you like it or not.

The interesting thing this time is simply that the's actually considering taking it, because he wants to go to Korea anyway.

Obviously it's also a marketing move, but that doesn't mean it isn't also based on his results.

I'm no advocate of Code S seeds, but it seems like GOM won't stop giving them out anytime soon, so I can live with their decision to give it to Stephano of all players.


Why is it a marketing move ? (marketing noob here)


The GSL lives up to its name for one (Global Starcraft League) and Foreigners usually bring in a lot of interest from foreign Viewers, and Stephano will have more exposure overall as well.

But I don´t see how people can hate on Gom for inviting, and on players for accepting the Seed. Yes not many foreigners have done well - so what? Isn´t that how competition works? If you don´t perform to the level that is required, you are out anyway - they thankfully changed the format and this brought a lot of dynamic into the whole process where even GSL champions are constantly pressured to perform well.

It may be the fairest to let all the foreigners go through Code A from a straight performance point of view - but people seem to forget that for example Stephano does not intend to stay there and train for months just for Code A, he simply wants to get better and in the best case reach a level where he will be able to compete with the absolute best.

Also, Koreans do get invites to foreign events as well. They are definitely more likely to get into a foreigner event than foreigners getting into Code A/S for example by playing a qualifier - but that is mainly due to them being in Korea which is THE environment and country to be in at the highest level. Not many foreigners want to go there long term - which is understandable.

I am not sure MC or MKP would like to be in a foreign country over a long period of time where everything is different from home - this is also a huge factor to performing well, being in an environment that not just exposes you to high level Starcraft but giving you comfort and peace of mind as well.

I hope Gom and Stephano get the most out of this deal - ESPORTS FIGHTING!
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
1A.Browbeat
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada26 Posts
April 25 2012 19:47 GMT
#98
By far the best foreign sc2 player. very deserving.
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justsayinbro
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
307 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 19:50:20
April 25 2012 19:48 GMT
#99
oops error
Labbetuss
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway568 Posts
April 25 2012 19:50 GMT
#100
I hope he choose to compete seriously in Code S. Would like to see how far he can go.
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