At this moment in time, if any foreigner is going to win it, then it is going to be him. Thats not to disrespect any other foreigner but he is a tier above. He is the only foreigner, who when facing top korean opponents, you actually believe he can realistically beat them.

Mario1209

United States1077 Posts

April 25 2012 18:40 GMT

#44

On April 26 2012 03:36 DarkLordOlli wrote:

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They should preserve the second seed so they can get a proven Code S player back in should he get cheesed out of Code A.

i disagree, i think giving it to thorzain, the champion of dreamhack is a far more deserving seed, considering he 3-1'd the player who received the 2nd code S seed for GSL 2012 season 2.

Melix

United States89 Posts

April 25 2012 18:40 GMT

#45

The point of seeding foreigners into the GSL is that it compensates for an inherent disadvantage that all foreigners face -- that the tournament format forces you to be physically present in Korea for months at a time if you want to play a single game in Code S. This is not a burden on Koreans, but it is for foreigners. The seeds help to level the playing field, and it's great marketing for the GSL to boot.

This is also very relevant to the question of whether any foreigner is "deserving" of a Code S spot. Judged by results outside of Korea, someone like Stephano is a no brainer. But a lot of people think that they only way to prove oneself "worthy" of a Code S spot is to go through Code B and A, which is an unfair metric given that Koreans can take multiple runs at it with no additional cost or sacrifice to themselves, but a foreigner has to sacrifice a tremendous amount just to get ONE shot.

The folks running the GSL know what they are doing -- foreigner seeds are a great idea.

Flonomenalz

Nigeria3519 Posts

April 25 2012 18:41 GMT

#46

On April 26 2012 03:40 Tyree wrote:
At this moment in time, if any foreigner is going to win it, then it is going to be him. Thats not to disrespect any other foreigner but he is a tier above. He is the only foreigner, who when facing top korean opponents, you actually believe he can realistically beat them.

Yes, because Naniwa isn't winning in Code S right now or anything.

Lol.

Mario1209

United States1077 Posts

April 25 2012 18:41 GMT

#47

naniwa O.o?

kvn4444

1510 Posts

April 25 2012 18:42 GMT

#48

figured he would after that anoucement he was going to keep playing and travelling to kor. would be great for fans and gsl if they could get thorzain in as well. anyways im even more excited for gsl next season.

Olli

Austria24422 Posts

April 25 2012 18:43 GMT

#49

On April 26 2012 03:40 Mario1209 wrote:

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i disagree, i think giving it to thorzain, the champion of dreamhack is a far more deserving seed, considering he 3-1'd the player who received the 2nd code S seed for GSL 2012 season 2.

Imagine if AcE cheeses out DRG in his Code A match. Thorzain is good. But if I have the choice, I'll put DRG back in Code S every time.

Mario1209

United States1077 Posts

April 25 2012 18:44 GMT

#50

On April 26 2012 03:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:

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Imagine if AcE cheeses out DRG in his Code A match. Thorzain is good. But if I have the choice, I'll put DRG back in Code S every time.

what if AcE beats DRG out in a straight up macro game? DRG wouldn't deserve the seed?

opisska

Poland8852 Posts

April 25 2012 18:45 GMT

#51

Guys, I have a question. Liquipedia states that for code S "Ro32" finish you get $1,335 in earnings. But Ro32 is just "was in code S and lost". Does anyone know if it applies also to seeded players? That would be quite interesting financially

The earning curve in code S is overall very strange - it starts quite high, but rises very slowly and then it explodes at the very top. So you get quite a nice money for just being there, but not much from getting to Ro16 for example.

Mrvoodoochild1

United States1439 Posts

April 25 2012 18:47 GMT

#52

Stephano and Naniwa are the only two foreigners worthy of a being invited to Code S. Happy to see Stephano finally compete against Koreans on their own turf. It will be nice to see if Stephano can prepare builds for his opponents because he says his entire strat is based on feeling and reactive play.

GhandiEAGLE

United States20754 Posts

April 25 2012 18:48 GMT

#53

Rofl, instant invite XD

Mr Chae was WAITING for this

FidoDido

United States1292 Posts

April 25 2012 18:50 GMT

#54

this will be awesome! I wonder what is Huk's twitter response to this after saying Naniwa doesn't deserve his seed.

AgentChaos

United Kingdom4569 Posts

April 25 2012 18:50 GMT

#55

the question is can stephano go as far as naniwa

0neder

United States3733 Posts

April 25 2012 18:51 GMT

#56

He better go or he's yella! I hope he does. He's the only foreigner that I could fathom taking a GSL. Naniwa, almost...but not quite.

JohnMatrix

France1358 Posts

April 25 2012 18:52 GMT

#57

Is somebody ever wins code S with his first attempt

BearStorm

United States795 Posts

April 25 2012 18:52 GMT

#58

Don't ever apologize for the translation if no one has done it yet

Just make sure we know that the translation isn't entirely accurate when it isn't.

Olli

Austria24422 Posts

April 25 2012 18:52 GMT

#59

On April 26 2012 03:44 Mario1209 wrote:

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what if AcE beats DRG out in a straight up macro game? DRG wouldn't deserve the seed?

That's still incorrect. DRG won the recent MLG Arena over arguably better players than the ones Thorzain beat. It's a subjective decision Gom has to make and they're most likely gonna put their champion back in, who is one of the best players in the world consistently. DRG adds more to Code S than ThorZain does, no matter how AcE beats him. At least that's what I'd think if I had to make a decision.