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On April 27 2012 01:24 mongmong wrote:
LOL at people thinking Stephano can become a GSL champ.
I think people are forgetting what happened aginst MMA at IPL4.
I at least thought the chance of winning for stephano was 50:50 but
look at how the games turned out. MMA absolutely outclassed him.
Even a better zerg like DRG falls to Code A a minute he makes a mistake (or a bad day)
yeh because losing once proves you are shit... how about polt? one tournament polt hammered him,next stephano beat him then polt did it again... not everyone can win... and also sometimes if youlook at previous finals... the draw can alsogo in your favour...
i dont think he will winit, but if he wins gameand even if he gets knocked out so what, the is somany top players and people just want him to do well!!!
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On April 27 2012 01:29 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 01:24 mongmong wrote:
LOL at people thinking Stephano can become a GSL champ.
I think people are forgetting what happened aginst MMA at IPL4.
I at least thought the chance of winning for stephano was 50:50 but
look at how the games turned out. MMA absolutely outclassed him.
Even a better zerg like DRG falls to Code A a minute he makes a mistake (or a bad day)
Well Nani is in the Ro8, and Stephano is better than NaNi, so who knows. (Still think it's veeeery unlikely though)
Nani had a decent draw and he was helped by GSL Code S players being mediocre vs. Protoss.
Protoss snipers aren't very plentiful in the GSL, but Zerg snipers are. This is the problem for Stephano - he plays Zerg, and the GSL is full of Zerg snipers.
I don't think he's going to make it very far, though skill-wise he is up there with Naniwa. But it does depend on the group - get him in a group with the worst vZers in Code S and he has a shot, but that's not saying a lot because the worst vZers in Code S are still better than Ryung's vP.
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On April 27 2012 02:31 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 01:29 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 27 2012 01:24 mongmong wrote:
LOL at people thinking Stephano can become a GSL champ.
I think people are forgetting what happened aginst MMA at IPL4.
I at least thought the chance of winning for stephano was 50:50 but
look at how the games turned out. MMA absolutely outclassed him.
Even a better zerg like DRG falls to Code A a minute he makes a mistake (or a bad day)
Well Nani is in the Ro8, and Stephano is better than NaNi, so who knows. (Still think it's veeeery unlikely though) Nani had a decent draw and he was helped by GSL Code S players being mediocre vs. Protoss as a rule. Protoss snipers aren't very plentiful in the GSL, but Zerg snipers are. This is the problem for Stephano - he plays Zerg, and the GSL is full of Zerg snipers. I don't think he's going to make it very far, though skill-wise he is Naniwa's equal. But it does depend on the group - get him in a group with the worst vZers in Code S and he has a shot.
That's a great point. If Stephano went he would definitely be one of the top zergs in the GSL (he's better than most of the Code A zergs) but that doesn't really mean much.
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I have the theory that stephano haters are just idra fanbois going through an existential crisis.
I personally think stephano could easily stay in code s, but winning it? sure he could do it, after a lot of work and some luck.
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On April 27 2012 02:13 mongmong wrote:
Korean fanatism????
LOL
this is kinda funny cuz the thing i dispise most in starcraft 2 is "korean pride"
bullshit and ur addressing my opinion as 'korean fanatism'??///
its kinda convinient for u to put it as 'korean fanatism'
LOL LOL well lets see how it turns out in the next season
That's your answer ??? I mean seriously, you make a big deal of how much you seem to know how things work in Korea and when someone explains something with clear arguments your answer is "LOL LOL ... Bullshit ... LOL" ...
Man if you're just trolling go back on 4chan ...
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On April 27 2012 02:40 latan wrote:
I have the theory that stephano haters are just idra fanbois going through an existential crisis.
I personally think stephano could easily stay in code s, but winning it? sure he could do it, after a lot of work and some luck.
that was my theory long time ago but i have another one which seems to be much more likely: these haters are not idra fanboys but huk fanboys. keep an eye on it and you will see
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On April 27 2012 02:52 MapleLeafSirup wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 02:40 latan wrote:
I have the theory that stephano haters are just idra fanbois going through an existential crisis.
I personally think stephano could easily stay in code s, but winning it? sure he could do it, after a lot of work and some luck. that was my theory long time ago but i have another one which seems to be much more likely: these haters are not idra fanboys but huk fanboys. keep an eye on it and you will see
Interesting statement, I had the feeling for quite a while that Huk was slowly getting Idraed since he joined EG ...
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There is no doubt in my mind stephano has amazing talent. Just the fact that he can compete with top level koreans while living outside korea says it alll. My only complaint is he doesn't always seem to appreciate it. I mean, c'mon show some enthusiasm during the interviews...
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"I don't always go to Korea, but when I do, I win the GSL."
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On April 27 2012 01:51 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +Losing to MMA in his weakest matchup who are a TvZ specialist are nothing to be ashamed off. With you logic Leenock is a bad zerg also becuase he gets stompede by every protoss he face? Nahh im affriad you need to open you eye´s abit. No one got 80% win in all 3 matchup. As good as MMA are in TvZ as bad are he in TvP..
If Stephano can avoid the TvZ killers he will do really well.
And btw just a tip when you try to analyse a players skill lvl take the last 6months to get a clear picture then you would know Stephano´s strenght and weaknes. Taking 1 Match just make you look like a fool
Btw I can do the same as you if I wanted to analyse Bombers skill lvl. Look at Bomber he got absolutely outclassed by Stephano in IPL 4. Bomber are horrible. o.0. Herp derp. you stephano fanboys need to chill out, bomber isnt even at the same level as other code s players (except some like inca who got damn lucky) and yes bomber has been showing some god-awful matches. beating bomber doesnt make u a top tier player. Im 100% sure stephano doesnt make it out of ro32.
MMA didnt make it out of ro32 DRG didnt either and if Stephano doesnt whats you point? Starcraft 2 is not black and white. Seriously do you people actually watch starcraft?? When we go on the very top where Stephano are he can lose and win against everyone and that goes for every top player in the world..
Thats why you need to a period of time to really understand a players strenght and weaknesses. There is alot of X-factors involved. And you forgot the biggest X-factor of them all. What are his time in Korea gonna do to his play? Its safe to assume Stephano will only get better.
We are not saying Stephano gonna steamroll Code S. What we are saying are it depends of the X-factors. If Stephano can avoid the TvZ specialist he will do well im quite sure.
and btw is funny you smacking Bomber. He won his group in IPL4 he must be really bad.
You haters really need to come down to reality and accept it that Stephano since IPL 3 is among the top players in the world and no matter how much you dislike the kid you really cant dismiss his skilllvl anymore
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As nice as the thought is. I'm really opposed to any sorts of handouts that let players without following proper protocol. If I were a Korean competing I would be very frustrated. I understand he's going down there for several months of training, but it really is a slap in the face of other competitors and makes your format look somewhat of a joke.
I like what Stephano is doing. I think he's very good, but going around your format to add another foreigner for flavor and bring in more ratings. It's a crap chute for the other players.
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That's too bad for Stephano... In the GSL, it is FILLED with players who are good against Zerg.
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gogo stephano =D Foreigner for GSL victory would be amazing.
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On April 27 2012 03:02 RoTaD wrote:
"I don't always go to Korea, but when I do, I win the GSL."
haha that was a good one : )
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Stephano and BW are like the two biggest retard magnet of SC2. Make a topic about them, look it get wasted by a shitstorm in 3 pages top.
Why so bitter lol.
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I really hope he takes this seriously. There are so many players who would love to have this opportunity. I hope he gives it his all, if he accepts the invite, and doesn't just play to see how it ends up.
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2012= Year of the Foreigners
Next GSL season final will be the defending champion Naniwa vs Stephano ^________________________________^
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On April 27 2012 03:32 cmen15 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 03:02 RoTaD wrote:
"I don't always go to Korea, but when I do, I win the GSL." haha that was a good one : )
Yeah, that's a pretty good one. I hope that happens. 
But like Nestea, MKP, DRG, Genious or MC, Stephano can also lose and even drop down to Code A but that still wouldn't mean that he's not an awesome player.
I originally had Naniwa also on that list but since he's actually still there to possibly even win the current code S championship I want to keep the faith.
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I know Stephano has done very well in past tournaments, but from the announcement it sounds like Gom is just inviting him because he seems like a good player? That's kind of surprising, and seems a bit unfair for all the players who have to go through the qualifiers and code A.
From their format it looks like they have room for 2 code S seeds, I wonder if those spots are tied to a specific major tournament or just Gom's discretion.
Well anyways, I suppose the lone star clash could be interpreted as being worthy for a code S seed in addition to his previous performances. Not sure though; the players at certain tournaments could be less challenging than a korean filled qualifier and code A bracket.
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On April 27 2012 04:45 radscorpion9 wrote:
I know Stephano has done very well in past tournaments, but from the announcement it sounds like Gom is just inviting him because he seems like a good player? That's kind of surprising, and seems a bit unfair for all the players who have to go through the qualifiers and code A.
From their format it looks like they have room for 2 code S seeds, I wonder if those spots are tied to a specific major tournament or just Gom's discretion.
Well anyways, I suppose the lone star clash could be interpreted as being worthy for a code S seed in addition to his previous performances. Not sure though; the players at certain tournaments could be less challenging than a korean filled qualifier and code A bracket.
Mr.Chae have tryed to get Stephano since IPL 3. Its pretty commen knownledge all Stephano got todo is ask for it. His victory at lonestar clash got nothing todo with the invite.
But a very high concistency in tournament does. His IPL 3, ESWC championship, 2nd and 3rd place Assemply. Did really well at blizzard cup. Lonestar champion, IPL 4 UK qualifier champion and top 6 IPL 4 indeed does. + a million online tournament wins, and he have done that in under a year.
And as fare as I know Stephano got an invite to GSL right after Blizzard cup but he turned it down becuase he wanted to go home to Frence
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