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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
Sure I'll bet. But how are we gonna decide which league is the main league? It's partially subjective, and bets need to resolvable easily. How about the TL admins vote which is the main league. (Like, in SC1, there was OSL and MSL but it was basically accepted that OSL is more important) Even tho I should be getting favored odds, I'm willing to offer 1:1 for $20. The bet is decided after the 4th season is concluded. ok? | ||
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Angelavenger
United States59 Posts
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jaydee81
Germany119 Posts
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malaan
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niilzon
Belgium105 Posts
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g.
Australia123 Posts
On April 26 2012 20:08 jaydee81 wrote: It would be great if he accepted. For me personally GSL is not what it used to be. Now with Nani it's better of course, another foreigner would be great. gsl is better than ever imo. The quality of play is amazing and production is better. Foreigners just dont cut it, they cant compete with the top koreans and I highly doubt stephano will get very far. Maybe if he stays in korea for a while and adjusts his playstyle to the korean meta then maybe he can do well, but atm i think theres little hope | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
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goneim
China201 Posts
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Krogan
Sweden375 Posts
 ) and gets to travel the globe, party and play games for a living.... yeah I'm starting to think we will have Stephano around for a long time to come | ||
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Abort Retry Fail
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Deimos0
Poland277 Posts
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On April 26 2012 20:55 g. wrote: gsl is better than ever imo. The quality of play is amazing and production is better. Foreigners just dont cut it, they cant compete with the top koreans and I highly doubt stephano will get very far. Maybe if he stays in korea for a while and adjusts his playstyle to the korean meta then maybe he can do well, but atm i think theres little hope Funny thing Mr. G we have heard all that before since IPL 3. Then blizzard cup where everyone sayd he would go 0-4 instead he won convincing against DRG and Hero. Lonestar crash?, everyone sayd Polt gonna beat him again. IPL 4? no one gaved him a chance in hell to take top 6. But he did. The thing with Stephano is he rarely disappoint. Allways solid and I belive if he gets more ZvT practise he will go fare. I think IPL 4 is a rally good indicator of Stephano´s placement in future GSL if he can avoid the TvZ specialist like MMA,alive,MKP he will do very fine | ||
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PAYBACK-SXE
United States150 Posts
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Inertia_EU
United Kingdom513 Posts
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8933 Posts
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BackSideAttack
1103 Posts
On April 26 2012 22:10 Benjamin99 wrote: Funny thing Mr. G we have heard all that before since IPL 3. Then blizzard cup where everyone sayd he would go 0-4 instead he won convincing against DRG and Hero. Lonestar crash?, everyone sayd Polt gonna beat him again. IPL 4? no one gaved him a chance in hell to take top 6. But he did. The thing with Stephano is he rarely disappoint. Allways solid and I belive if he gets more ZvT practise he will go fare. I think IPL 4 is a rally good indicator of Stephano´s placement in future GSL if he can avoid the TvZ specialist like MMA,alive,MKP he will do very fine Then there's MLG where they said he would roll through TheSTC and Boxer, yet he lost to both. Then there's Inori who everyone thought wouldn't stand a chance, yet Stephano still lost to him. Then look at Homestory cup he lost to MKP, Sound, and MC. Look at Assembly Winter, he lost to Polt. Look at MLG Arena, he lost to Polt once again. Just because he took a game off hero and DRG in a bo1 setting and beat polt in 1 tournament doesn't mean he hasn't failed quite considerably. Yes he has succeeded, but in the end there are more instances where he has failed. IPL is a terrible indicator of his skill. If anything he had to get lucky to even get out of the first round of the playoffs (he got the only 1st seed that was bad vZ- ST.Bomber). You mention how he has to dodge great vZ players in order to make it. Well half the Terrans left in code S are either great against zerg or have beaten him before. This isn't even including players such as DRG and Nestea and Squirtle who are also great against Z. Is Stephano a good player? Yes Will he just roll through Code S? Very unlikely. Making top 6 of a foreign tournament doesn't mean you can get top 6 in GSL. It's a completely different game. I guarantee you when everyone knows their opponent and has weeks to prepare against Stephano, they will win because of how inflexible his playstyle is. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On April 26 2012 23:19 BackSideAttack wrote: Then there's MLG where they said he would roll through TheSTC and Boxer, yet he lost to both. Then there's Inori who everyone thought wouldn't stand a chance, yet Stephano still lost to him. Then look at Homestory cup he lost to MKP, Sound, and MC. Look at Assembly Winter, he lost to Polt. Look at MLG Arena, he lost to Polt once again. Just because he took a game off hero and DRG in a bo1 setting and beat polt in 1 tournament doesn't mean he hasn't failed quite considerably. Yes he has succeeded, but in the end there are more instances where he has failed. IPL is a terrible indicator of his skill. If anything he had to get lucky to even get out of the first round of the playoffs (he got the only 1st seed that was bad vZ- ST.Bomber). You mention how he has to dodge great vZ players in order to make it. Well half the Terrans left in code S are either great against zerg or have beaten him before. This isn't even including players such as DRG and Nestea and Squirtle who are also great against Z. Is Stephano a good player? Yes Will he just roll through Code S? Very unlikely. Making top 6 of a foreign tournament doesn't mean you can get top 6 in GSL. It's a completely different game. I guarantee you when everyone knows their opponent and has weeks to prepare against Stephano, they will win because of how inflexible his playstyle is. You hate Foreigners winning. All your posts basically talk about how you much prefer Koreans to win. So let's not pretend you are close to being objective here. Players like Naniwa and Stephano winning matches in GSL is your personal nightmare. I am a Stephano fan and a fan of Foreign players. You hate Stephano and Foreign players doing well. The fact remains that Stephano has beaten many of the players in this season's Code S in Tournament matches. There is no reason to believe he cannot do the same in the GSL. Yes there are many extremely strong opponents in Code S. Stephano is strong too. They can beat Stephano, but Stephano can beat them too. It's all about execution on the day. Do I think he will win GSL in his first season? No. I do think he is on the same level as many of this seasons Code S players. You talk about Stephano being inflexible and yet he won games off 5 Code S level players in the recent IPL4. After weeks of preparation DRG and Hero still lost to him in Blizzard Cup. Polt has played Stephano countless times and yet still the games between them are often really, really close and Polt still loses games to him. Nestea says Stephano is the best Foreigner, MC says he is Code S Level, Polt says he is a genius. GOM thinks Stephano is worthy of a seed. I'll go with their assessment rather than one from a self-confessed hater of Stephano and all Foreign players. | ||
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
On April 27 2012 00:00 revel8 wrote: Nestea says Stephano is the best Foreigner, MC says he is Code S Level, Polt says he is a genius. GOM thinks Stephano is worthy of a seed. I'll go with their assessment rather than one from a self-confessed hater of Stephano and all Foreign players. Very good point here, considering Pros from Korea and abroad consider Stephano to be code S quality and considering he was given a spot to compete, all discussions wondering whether he as the level to play there or not are just ridiculous. None of us is qualified to judge that and people who are judged him capable. It's totally restarted to question that. What can be questioned is whether he'll do good or not. And even if he doesn't in the first season, it wouldn't mean he's not capable of competing with these players. GSL as such a great amount of luck based on who you will encounter. MKP is amazingly good lately but he just happened to face a Terran Beast who could very likely only qualify trough TvT (Taeja) and the only Protoss that regularly compete's with him toe to toe (Parting). Therefore, he dropped to code A. Does that mean MKP is not a code S quality player. OFC it doesn't, it just means he was unlucky enough to face the only opponents that had a chance at defeating him at this moment. Same could happen with Stephano but once again, questioning whether he is a code S quality player or not is just retarded since the people who are most capable of judging that already consider him to be code S quality. Haters ans fanboys on forum don't matter ... | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
It was obvious back then how classy he was, and still is now. I don't expect him to do that well in Code S, luck of the draw, how well you play on the night will all play a major part, but he can certainly put up a good fight that's for certain, as he's proven in the past. | ||
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