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excal
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada166 Posts
April 14 2012 17:38 GMT
#21
On April 15 2012 02:32 A-p-p-l-e-s wrote:
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On April 15 2012 02:28 slmw wrote:
On April 15 2012 02:24 A-p-p-l-e-s wrote:
yea but think about it. White-ra made $50,000 out of tournament winnings in 2 years. Thats 25,000$/year maybe add 10000 for sallary . White-ra is a top 20 earner and has a family. How is he going to support his family in the future when he retires? Where i live he makes a little more than a regular Mc Donalds employe .


Where he lives $4000 is the average salary. $35,000 is almost ten times that.

how to you live off a little over 300 a month. You have to pay for food, electricity / rent / bills, transportation etc. I doubt the sallary of an average worker is 4000 $ a year unless they work in a sweat shop and make about 1$ an hour.


Ukraine Average gross salary 237 € / 319 $, monthly (Jan-Aug 2011)

Try to expand your horizon and research before making claims.
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
April 14 2012 17:51 GMT
#22
People live in some strange bubbles. I think it's because the average community member is so young and has very little life experience. Myself and one of my sisters are the only people in my family to have any sort of degree. When I lived in one of the largest cities in the US I made $80,000 per year, and I was comfortable. Now I live in a much smaller major city and I made $42,850~ last year - I'm actually living more comfortably with more stuff now than I was when I was making almost twice as much money because even within the same country (if it's as big as the US at least) the cost of living can vary greatly. In some other countries people make a fraction of what I make and are considered wealthy. One of my dearest friends got a Ph.D. several years ago and makes roughly the same amount as I do, where my sister dropped out after 2 weeks of high school and makes $10,000 per year more than I do, and I make $5,000~ per year more than my sister that has a degree.

College/Uni are not the only way to wealth, nor do they ensure that you will be wealthy, and don't think that if someone skips out on Uni their options are woefully limited and they're doomed to be poor forever. They often just have to start a little lower than someone with a degree and work their way up.
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
A-p-p-l-e-s
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada314 Posts
April 14 2012 17:52 GMT
#23
On April 15 2012 02:38 excal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 02:32 A-p-p-l-e-s wrote:
On April 15 2012 02:28 slmw wrote:
On April 15 2012 02:24 A-p-p-l-e-s wrote:
yea but think about it. White-ra made $50,000 out of tournament winnings in 2 years. Thats 25,000$/year maybe add 10000 for sallary . White-ra is a top 20 earner and has a family. How is he going to support his family in the future when he retires? Where i live he makes a little more than a regular Mc Donalds employe .


Where he lives $4000 is the average salary. $35,000 is almost ten times that.

how to you live off a little over 300 a month. You have to pay for food, electricity / rent / bills, transportation etc. I doubt the sallary of an average worker is 4000 $ a year unless they work in a sweat shop and make about 1$ an hour.


Ukraine Average gross salary 237 € / 319 $, monthly (Jan-Aug 2011)

Try to expand your horizon and research before making claims.

I’m sorry for making claims before doing some research; I was comparing Canada to other countries without knowing.

S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
April 14 2012 17:59 GMT
#24
On April 15 2012 02:51 MVega wrote:
When I lived in one of the largest cities in the US I made $80,000 per year, and I was comfortable. Now I live in a much smaller major city and I made $42,850~ last year - I'm actually living more comfortably with more stuff now than I was when I was making almost twice as much money because even within the same country (if it's as big as the US at least) the cost of living can vary greatly.

This.

And personally I think this will be the main reason eSports will always remain a more viable option for people in the East rather than the West (popular exceptional personalities like IdrA, HuK, NonY etc aside). The prize money and salaries from international organisations in USD are actually pretty damn good for people in countries like Thailand for example.

Tanukki
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland579 Posts
April 14 2012 18:34 GMT
#25
Being a progamer isn't as easy as it looks for people who just play games for fun. I think most progamers wouldn't have problems making a living outside of gaming...they are diligent and smart people. Having a job you enjoy doing, well, that is another matter. That's why they should do what they enjoy doing for as long as possible.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
April 14 2012 18:44 GMT
#26
Anyone mentioned Mana? He's still studying.
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juusoko
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland79 Posts
April 14 2012 18:52 GMT
#27
On April 15 2012 02:51 MVega wrote:
People live in some strange bubbles. I think it's because the average community member is so young and has very little life experience. Myself and one of my sisters are the only people in my family to have any sort of degree. When I lived in one of the largest cities in the US I made $80,000 per year, and I was comfortable. Now I live in a much smaller major city and I made $42,850~ last year - I'm actually living more comfortably with more stuff now than I was when I was making almost twice as much money because even within the same country (if it's as big as the US at least) the cost of living can vary greatly. In some other countries people make a fraction of what I make and are considered wealthy. One of my dearest friends got a Ph.D. several years ago and makes roughly the same amount as I do, where my sister dropped out after 2 weeks of high school and makes $10,000 per year more than I do, and I make $5,000~ per year more than my sister that has a degree.

College/Uni are not the only way to wealth, nor do they ensure that you will be wealthy, and don't think that if someone skips out on Uni their options are woefully limited and they're doomed to be poor forever. They often just have to start a little lower than someone with a degree and work their way up.
It is of course entirely viable to become a top-earner outside academia, but it is also a fact that higher education correlates strongly with higher earnings. There's no way around it even if differences between countries is taken into account.

You're forgetting that a progamer that is prioritizing gaming isn't building a career anywhere else either - people who do well without a degree usually build up their career from bottom-to-top over years of working. This means that, if they do not continue in gaming in some other respect after their initial career, they have to start from the bottom.
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