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legaton
France1763 Posts
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tl4life
Canada247 Posts
 Guess he's tired. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Respect for MLG is now 0. Guess I'll have to wait until dreamhack tomorrow :/ | ||
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JimJigga
5 Posts
Esports has become so popular almost exclusively because of how accessible it is. Anyone that plays SC casually can start to follow and watch the best players in the world for free, from any computer, at any time(global = dif time zones). I respect companies looking for ways to increase revenues in order to promote esports, but this is not the way. Use advertisements, or offer high quality stream. Locking people out unless they pay an unreasonably high price just pisses people like me off. The idea of paying $10 for an 8 man tournament is also flawed. 99% of online SC viewing is completely free. Select high profile tournaments require pay. $10 is not a big purchase in the grand scheme of things, but it should be completely unjustifiable to any logical person because of its cost compared to the what the benchmark(average) cost of the service is to begin with(which in this case is extremely low). A good example of this principle in action is the cost of phone apps. Most people are hesitant to buy an app that costs $1, and even laugh at the idea of paying for a $5 app. $5 is not a lot of money, its just a high cost compared to the amount of free content available. MLG should charge $1 for low quality stream and $2-3 for high quality. I bet it would return around the same revenues, and possibly triple the viewership. $10 makes you guys come across as thick-headed money grubbers. | ||
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hoivenmayven
United States134 Posts
[B]On April 21 2012 08:35 JimJigga wrote:[/B MLG should charge $1 for low quality stream and $2-3 for high quality. I bet it would return around the same revenues, and possibly triple the viewership. $10 makes you guys come across as thick-headed money grubbers. Search function. All of these arguments were made to/responded to by MLG months ago. Whether or not you like it they couldn't have been any more clear that they will not be providing freemium content anymore or responding to arguments like this anymore. Loving Grubby so far! | ||
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RedDeckWins
United States123 Posts
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On April 21 2012 08:34 amazingxkcd wrote: Stream not free anymore. Respect for MLG is now 0. Guess I'll have to wait until dreamhack tomorrow :/ Thats funny you say that, since you just joined #Teamliquid under the nick "WantFreeStream" asking for MLG restream ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kffwm.jpg) Punk | ||
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JimJigga
5 Posts
On April 21 2012 08:44 hoivenmayven wrote: Search function. All of these arguments were made to/responded to by MLG months ago. Whether or not you like it they couldn't have been any more clear that they will not be providing freemium content anymore or responding to arguments like this anymore. Loving Grubby so far! Don't care if they addressed and warned us. People should still tell them when they are wrong. I'm gonna go take my $10 and pay for dinner - because that's a reasonable use of $10. | ||
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texas205
3 Posts
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texas205
3 Posts
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ghosthunter
United States414 Posts
Before and During MLG Winter Arena Last MLG Winter Arena Main Post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=311652 Poll from Thread: On February 14 2012 07:52 Dodgin wrote: Poll: Will you pay for this? No (3762) Yes (452) 4214 total votes Your vote: Will you pay for this? General Complaint: This is going to fail, is fraud, etc. etc. Tons more threads talking about this topic - Use the search function. There was also controversy about re-streams and using private browsing to get around pay walls. After the Event Sundance announces big financial success! Announces two more spring arenas! (That's how we get these things) http://blogs.redeyechicago.com/geek-to-me/2012/03/07/mlg-takes-e-sports-to-the-next-step/ That should hopefully settle everyone's need to spend the next three days complaining about a paywall in the similar fashion. PS. Using piracy as a way of complaining about the quality or type of an event is a garbage excuse. If you don't like a game / event (especially live event), just don't watch it. Unless Huk does something miraculous (in which case, I'll pay), I'll wait the two weeks for the VODs to come out and watch dreamhack. | ||
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Daray
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On April 21 2012 09:08 Daray wrote: So how do i watch this after i bought the spring season pass? It tells me to buy that shit but i already did -_- You should have gotten an email with instructions - Put in the code from your e-mail into the Twitch-link and press the blue button with the arrows | ||
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Daray
6006 Posts
On April 21 2012 09:11 ELA wrote: You should have gotten an email with instructions - Put in the code from your e-mail into the Twitch-link and press the blue button with the arrows Ah ye found it thanks. Kinda confusing that you have to do it like that though -_- | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On April 21 2012 09:12 Daray wrote: Ah ye found it thanks. Kinda confusing that you have to do it like that though -_- Still way easier than it used to be.. Look at this shit i had to deal with last year (Granted, some of that was self inflicted) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=223943¤tpage=11#214 | ||
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JimJigga
5 Posts
On April 21 2012 09:07 ghosthunter wrote: Tons more threads talking about this topic - Use the search function. There was also controversy about re-streams and using private browsing to get around pay walls. After the Event Sundance announces big financial success! Announces two more spring arenas! (That's how we get these things) http://blogs.redeyechicago.com/geek-to-me/2012/03/07/mlg-takes-e-sports-to-the-next-step/ . I appreciate that high pay passes might be bringing in good money which allows them to host more tournaments, but this almost worries me even more. I don't care if this profit model of theirs allows them to have an MLG every other week, that's not the esports industry/community that I want, or think this sport deserves. They should be lowering costs to get more viewers. The SC community was built on easy, free(or almost free) viewing. It is frustrating to me, and seems that the average SC fan is being blocked out because a select few hardcore fans are willing to pay a really high cost(therefore justifying it). | ||
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VillageBC
322 Posts
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On April 21 2012 10:53 VillageBC wrote: I paid for it, and it won't let me access it. =( Mind you I just paid for it, so maybe I need to give it 10 minutes or so. Check your e-mail - Stated exactly the same 5 posts above ^^ | ||
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VillageBC
322 Posts
On April 21 2012 10:56 ELA wrote: Check your e-mail - Stated exactly the same 5 posts above ^^ Thanks, goddamn how obtuse do they want to be about it. | ||
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scudst0rm
Canada1149 Posts
On April 21 2012 09:40 JimJigga wrote: I appreciate that high pay passes might be bringing in good money which allows them to host more tournaments, but this almost worries me even more. I don't care if this profit model of theirs allows them to have an MLG every other week, that's not the esports industry/community that I want, or think this sport deserves. They should be lowering costs to get more viewers. The SC community was built on easy, free(or almost free) viewing. It is frustrating to me, and seems that the average SC fan is being blocked out because a select few hardcore fans are willing to pay a really high cost(therefore justifying it). If you don't want to watch an SC2 tournament every other weekend then don't watch the arenas. The Championships are the main events and are still Free (Freemium). If MLG was not doing PPV then all we would have would probably be the Championship events. And first place would probably still only get $5000. So by ADDING these Arenas the "hardcore fans" get more content and the "average SC fan" would get better production and a larger prize pool for the Championship events. And better yet we all get MLGs for years to come because they didn't run out of venture capital because they couldn't turn a profit. | ||
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