EPTThere's a big, pretty, useful and insightful article on wellplayed.org that covers most of what I said and adds a lot more (like the opinion of those who write about this shizz for a living) so you can understand why PPV arena events are so good for all of the community.
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United States29 Posts
There's a big, pretty, useful and insightful article on wellplayed.org that covers most of what I said and adds a lot more (like the opinion of those who write about this shizz for a living) so you can understand why PPV arena events are so good for all of the community. | ||
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IntoTheBush
United States552 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
With all the free content out there, you have to be a big supporter to pay for a weekend event. There's no point to watch the vods later if more, new, free content is out already. There is live, free sc2 24 hours a day. | ||
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An2quamaraN
Poland379 Posts
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-AiKameoZero-
United Kingdom32 Posts
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
So if you don't want to pay, it's ok, just don't watch! If it weren't PPV, it wouldn't be there at all, so there was no event to watch. So either you support it, pay and watch, or just don't pay, watch dreamhack, have a nice time. It's not like MLG is denying anything to anybody with this PPV model. It's just giving out ADDITIONAL content for people, willing to pay for it. Those who doesn't want to are not losing anything! | ||
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-AiKameoZero-
United Kingdom32 Posts
prefere making 90 dollors for streaming 3 adverts per stream or 150.000 dollars for making it pay to watch hmmmmm do the math these streams will never be free stop being so cheap and support esports with just 10 dollors for 3 days of top pros FIghting to the death that's like just over 3 dollars a day worth it is'ent it ? stop complaining and support esports or go watch playhem tourney if u wanna watch a free stream kk chow | ||
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-AiKameoZero-
United Kingdom32 Posts
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-AiKameoZero-
United Kingdom32 Posts
would have been if it was free for all the cheap skates to watch gg no re plz all just stop this thread its pointless they aint gonna choose having maximum of making around 4000 dollars a day from adverts and that would be if like over 30.000 was watching the stream when they can make 150.000 in one day from makng it pay to veiw end of story stop being cheap and support esports sad...... | ||
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noddy
United Kingdom927 Posts
Anyway, at least TeamLiquid as a website is no longer supporting the organisation on this so we'll see how many viewers they will have today. | ||
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Hiea
Denmark1538 Posts
On April 21 2012 08:34 amazingxkcd wrote: Stream not free anymore. Respect for MLG is now 0. Guess I'll have to wait until dreamhack tomorrow :/ Why do you have no respect? its an extra tournament. If you compare this to GSL, its the exact same format with payment. GSL - You wanna watch the actual GSL tournament? watch it live at 340p or buy a ticket for X $ and watch it in HD You wanna watch the Arena of Legends? Pay 5-10$ and watch it in HD, no free stream. MLG - You wanna watch the big live events (Championships)? Watch it live at 420p or buy a ticket for x $ and watch it in HD You wanna watch the MLG Arenas? Pay 10-20$ and watch it in HD, no free stream. Now, you can see the the MLG Arenas are more expensive, but the production and work is also far larger, as its offline, not online. And for everyone saying "MLG is so bad, i'll watch Dreamhack", the first day is pretty much well.. pros stomping diamond-master players from Sweden. And when the big matches come, it aint gonna overlap with MLG anyway, so there isn't a problem there. | ||
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Fueled
United States1610 Posts
no free stream its not free because its a major tournament how do u expect e sports to get bigger with cheap skates who cant spare 10 dollors to watch 3 days of top pros fighting in HD thank god its not free Okay, first off where are you getting all these numbers from? You seem to be mindlessly throwing out numbers without any reference as to where you getting this info from. Second, don't start the whole "by paying to watch these you are making esports bigger" crap. Its simply false and inaccurate. All its doing is putting money into these companies pockets. The real money lies within the sponsors. Its nothing to some of these major corporations to throw out a few grand to sponsor a tournament to get their name and or new product out there. Look how far esports has come without PPV. And like I said, the money lies within the sponsors. If more and more of these major tournament organizers start nickel and diming us to where a major event only has a tenth of what the viewership should be, then sponsors are going to start questioning their interests in esports and forget about new sponsors thinking about dumping their ad budget into esports. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On April 22 2012 01:53 Hiea wrote: Why do you have no respect? its an extra tournament. If you compare this to GSL, its the exact same format with payment. GSL - You wanna watch the actual GSL tournament? watch it live at 340p or buy a ticket for X $ and watch it in HD You wanna watch the Arena of Legends? Pay 5-10$ and watch it in HD, no free stream. MLG - You wanna watch the big live events (Championships)? Watch it live at 420p or buy a ticket for x $ and watch it in HD You wanna watch the MLG Arenas? Pay 10-20$ and watch it in HD, no free stream. Now, you can see the the MLG Arenas are more expensive, but the production and work is also far larger, as its offline, not online. And for everyone saying "MLG is so bad, i'll watch Dreamhack", the first day is pretty much well.. pros stomping diamond-master players from Sweden. And when the big matches come, it aint gonna overlap with MLG anyway, so there isn't a problem there. I really hope you compared only the AoL for MLG arena. Btw, they changed it and AoL are actually free to watch now if i remember right.. | ||
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Hiea
Denmark1538 Posts
On April 22 2012 02:02 Assirra wrote: I really hope you compared only the AoL for MLG arena. Btw, they changed it and AoL are actually free to watch now if i remember right.. I am comparing GSL AoL with the MLG Arenas. And i'm pretty sure that AoL is not free to watch, BUT if you buy the annual ticket, you get them for free, similiar to how gold members get a discount on the arenas. Also MLG recently introduced a showmatch "MLG Prizefights", which is free in HD. There is just 2 major points people seem to miss - - The MLG Arenas are extra content, you are not missing out on anything there wouldn't of been there the year before. - Dreamhack and MLG Spring Arena 1 do not overlap timewise. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25995 Posts
Or there's a good SC2 General forum for such a debate, just an idea. | ||
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Daitakk
77 Posts
On April 22 2012 03:29 Wombat_NI wrote: Any chance that there can be some discussion on the games, both post and upcoming rather than the pricing model? Or there's a good SC2 General forum for such a debate, just an idea. Go to MLG forums and discuss it. No reason to use TL as a promotional device for a non-community function imo. | ||
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Dreadwolf
Canada220 Posts
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
I cleared my cache and cookies, and I still can't get that green static of death to disappear- EVEN DURING THE FREE GAMES. I tried to contact MLG support, and that doesn't even work. I don't care if they choose to go PPV, but if you're going to ask your fans to pay for watching this tournament (when Dreamhack is currently going on and is free) then you better make sure you don't have people dealing with technical bullshit. According to the MLG site I'm not the only one. ARgh edit; I emailed MLG hoping they'd give me some solution to this problem. I explained to them my immense dissatisfaction with the fact that I paid extra for this tournament and then had to deal with tons of technical problems after doing so (especially given that the formerly all inclusive gold membership I bought is no longer all inclusive) Their response: Hello. The Spring Arena is NOT included in the Membership. You get a discount to purchase a Season pass, however. Thanks MLG. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On April 22 2012 03:29 Wombat_NI wrote: Any chance that there can be some discussion on the games, both post and upcoming rather than the pricing model? Or there's a good SC2 General forum for such a debate, just an idea. dude, there are LR threads for each day | ||
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