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MLG Spring Arena 1 Broadcast Details - Page 17

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dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
April 16 2012 03:56 GMT
#321
On April 16 2012 03:23 NKexquisite wrote:
8 players and 10 casters and 7 streams? I don't understand


Ya, 8 players? I thought at first they just hadn't announced the rest of them.....
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
April 16 2012 04:00 GMT
#322
OH thank god, relax dudes...we got Tastosis
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
April 16 2012 04:11 GMT
#323
On April 16 2012 12:56 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 03:23 NKexquisite wrote:
8 players and 10 casters and 7 streams? I don't understand


Ya, 8 players? I thought at first they just hadn't announced the rest of them.....


Arena 2 is 32 players

it's a win win for the players here.
TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
April 16 2012 04:15 GMT
#324
No free stream? This isn't about "making eSports bigger" this is all about MLG making maximum profit off of the fans of this game while they still can.

Disgusting.
◕ ‿‿ ◕ ๑•́ ₃ •̀๑ ( ͡ ° ͜ ʖ ͡°)
HenryHazlitt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States34 Posts
April 16 2012 04:23 GMT
#325
On April 16 2012 13:15 TORTOISE wrote:
No free stream? This isn't about "making eSports bigger" this is all about MLG making maximum profit off of the fans of this game while they still can.

Disgusting.


says the guy who is too cheap to pay ten dollars to support eSports.

Hypocrite.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1603 Posts
April 16 2012 04:25 GMT
#326
MLG Really Dropping The Ball Here.
8 Man tournament -_-
More people viewing matches than playing them -_-

The last event sure I didn't want to pay for it because I think you guys waste money like our politicians, but it had a sick field, and I knew you guys would run a solid event and it was good, but not because 8 of those players were statistically better than the rest, but because everyone had a fighting chance to win it and the top talent there was a big representation from each region. Now, on the cusp of BW players coming over you're creating a non-major type event just to fund your company. The foreign scene will collapse from this type of stuff and perhaps that will be a good thing back to white people in Korea again I guess, because MLG can't make a solid season here thats for damn sure.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
April 16 2012 04:36 GMT
#327
MLG is killing esports? im confused. I dont think you understand the fact that these people need to make money or they cant have tournaments and they want to have the best possible production to make esports look professional and that means no ads (ipl had 5 minute advertisements, i wouldve rather paid 10$.) MLG is the best outside of Korea, cant deny it. MLG will make esports relevant in America, like it or not. I will pay 15$ for all spring events, just like i paid for a gold membership and winter arena, because it helps MLG which in turn makes esports in america much better because MLG is American esports( esports isnt just starcraft)
#TheOneTrueDong
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 16 2012 04:56 GMT
#328
On April 16 2012 12:51 tdt wrote:
IMO MLG should
a) offer a yearly pass I had no problem buying GSL yr but don't like being nickle and dimed to death or screwing around with paypal too much. Every time I spend money I don't like it, so you better get me all at once.
b) specify exactly what events will be held and format.

i think the reason they aren't doing a yearly pass is because they aren't sure what the format is gonna be for the summer and fall seasons. not sure if we will get a yearly pass type subscription this year at all. it would be nice though.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 05:54:14
April 16 2012 05:51 GMT
#329
On April 16 2012 13:36 TommyP wrote:
MLG is killing esports? im confused. I dont think you understand the fact that these people need to make money or they cant have tournaments and they want to have the best possible production to make esports look professional and that means no ads (ipl had 5 minute advertisements, i wouldve rather paid 10$.) MLG is the best outside of Korea, cant deny it. MLG will make esports relevant in America, like it or not. I will pay 15$ for all spring events, just like i paid for a gold membership and winter arena, because it helps MLG which in turn makes esports in america much better because MLG is American esports( esports isnt just starcraft)

They are not entitled to more money for less product than competition (ipl for example). Consumers are not running a charity with thier hard earned money.

8 players? $15? You must be a fanatic.
MC for president
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 16 2012 06:05 GMT
#330
On April 16 2012 14:51 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 13:36 TommyP wrote:
MLG is killing esports? im confused. I dont think you understand the fact that these people need to make money or they cant have tournaments and they want to have the best possible production to make esports look professional and that means no ads (ipl had 5 minute advertisements, i wouldve rather paid 10$.) MLG is the best outside of Korea, cant deny it. MLG will make esports relevant in America, like it or not. I will pay 15$ for all spring events, just like i paid for a gold membership and winter arena, because it helps MLG which in turn makes esports in america much better because MLG is American esports( esports isnt just starcraft)

They are not entitled to more money for less product than competition (ipl for example). Consumers are not running a charity with thier hard earned money.

8 players? $15? You must be a fanatic.

except he isnt spending $15 on this tournament. He is spending $15 on this tournament, hd for the qualifiers and for arena 2.

MLG doesn't want to sell single events. They want to sell season passes. This arena is more to add content to the spring pass.

MLG is asking for $90 a year (gold membership plus the season passes come out to $90). IPL wants $5 a month which is $60 a year. So while MLG is more, they also are putting on more live events. Its pretty comparable.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Bart
Profile Joined November 2010
494 Posts
April 16 2012 06:07 GMT
#331
This is another "test" arena to see how the willing-to-PPV SC2 fans will respond to a small lineup of top players (ie small lineup means less money spent to fly players out). If MLG gets the same response as the winter arena then you'll see more of the spring arena type of tournament.

I think MLG is going the wrong way with this setup though. Fans want to watch epic games that mean something. 8 players in group and all of them advance to the round of 8 (lol) means the players won't show their best games until the last day and will probably treat this as a free vacation.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Fan of: MKP, Select, MC, Kripp, Purge, JP, Qpad Red Pandas
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
April 16 2012 06:12 GMT
#332
Wasn't gonna buy the spring season, with the analysts it's like I have no choice
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 06:19:19
April 16 2012 06:14 GMT
#333
On April 16 2012 13:23 HenryHazlitt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 13:15 TORTOISE wrote:
No free stream? This isn't about "making eSports bigger" this is all about MLG making maximum profit off of the fans of this game while they still can.

Disgusting.


says the guy who is too cheap to pay ten dollars to support eSports.

Hypocrite.


Pff that is the same line MLG uses in it's array of MARKETING STATEMENTS.

THE GSL, GOMTV and every other tournamnet in the world actually CARES about COMMUNITY ACCESSIBILTY - LIVE!!!! - as they know , IT IS NOT SMART TO UPSET POSSIBLE FUTURE BUYERS OF THEIR PRODUCTS/SPONSOR'S PRODUCTS.

MLG have dug themselves into a hole I cant see them ever getting out of.

They are a disgrace of esports.

Esports isnt just about money.

*burp*
Ispn
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany3 Posts
April 16 2012 06:23 GMT
#334
A Event no one will watch at all lol!
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
April 16 2012 06:29 GMT
#335
On April 16 2012 15:14 Parcelleus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 13:23 HenryHazlitt wrote:
On April 16 2012 13:15 TORTOISE wrote:
No free stream? This isn't about "making eSports bigger" this is all about MLG making maximum profit off of the fans of this game while they still can.

Disgusting.


says the guy who is too cheap to pay ten dollars to support eSports.

Hypocrite.


Pff that is the same line MLG uses in it's array of MARKETING STATEMENTS.

THE GSL, GOMTV and every other tournamnet in the world actually CARES about COMMUNITY ACCESSIBILTY - LIVE!!!! - as they know , IT IS NOT SMART TO UPSET POSSIBLE FUTURE BUYERS OF THEIR PRODUCTS/SPONSOR'S PRODUCTS.

MLG have dug themselves into a hole I cant see them ever getting out of.

They are a disgrace of esports.

Esports isnt just about money.



wat. you and a few other people are part of a vocal minority complaining about this. you don't have to buy this. it's like an extra event to go along with the championship events which are free.

ps. typing your message in half capital letters doesn't make your point any more right.
Maruprime.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 06:32:12
April 16 2012 06:31 GMT
#336
some people obviously are not aware of Winter Arena occurring and it being PPV
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Souldrinkah
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden48 Posts
April 16 2012 17:56 GMT
#337
The most intellectual caster who is gm with all three races is not casting ... guess I'll have to mute whenever artosis isn't casting
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
April 16 2012 18:03 GMT
#338
Well the price isn't too bad if u get the bundled Spring Arenas 1 & 2 for $15 (already gold), but $30 without gold is kinda steep. My main issue is that it's an 8 player tournament over 3 days. Wth? Is pool play best of 5 or something? There's gotta be some pretty good filler content with the analysts, etc., but certain analysts will have to stop being super biased.
Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
April 16 2012 18:08 GMT
#339
MLG doesnt have any chanches to get european viewers again, games are shitty times and there is DH same time.
(V) (;,,;) (V) Woopwoopwoopwoop
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
April 16 2012 18:11 GMT
#340
On April 16 2012 15:14 Parcelleus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 13:23 HenryHazlitt wrote:
On April 16 2012 13:15 TORTOISE wrote:
No free stream? This isn't about "making eSports bigger" this is all about MLG making maximum profit off of the fans of this game while they still can.

Disgusting.


says the guy who is too cheap to pay ten dollars to support eSports.

Hypocrite.


Pff that is the same line MLG uses in it's array of MARKETING STATEMENTS.

THE GSL, GOMTV and every other tournamnet in the world actually CARES about COMMUNITY ACCESSIBILTY - LIVE!!!! - as they know , IT IS NOT SMART TO UPSET POSSIBLE FUTURE BUYERS OF THEIR PRODUCTS/SPONSOR'S PRODUCTS.

MLG have dug themselves into a hole I cant see them ever getting out of.

They are a disgrace of esports.

Esports isnt just about money.


esports isn't about just the money? For many of us that is true, its the passion for the game that lets us play for hours on end with no real prize at the end. However, what organizations such as GSL, IPL, and MLG are trying to do is find some form of sustainable business model so that one day in the future, we'll be able to continue watching these pros play it out. It has been stated countless times by everyone working in the industry (find previous threads about this) that every single live event has turned into a deficit. Companies like IPL and MLG are running these deficits in order to have an attempt at becoming profitable while still providing a product that many of us enjoy, and then one day in the future have the chance to actually make some money from these events.

I do not understand where you get the idea that MLG does not care about its community. Quite the contrary, they have maxed out the number of seats available, moved SC2 to the center stage, created additional tournaments, updated their map pool (albeit that doesn't happen all the time consistently), all while answering the communities questions time and time again when something pops up. Besides IPL and possibly NASL (Xeris pretty responds to everything in their threads), there are probably no other tournaments with so many posts from their admins on TeamLiquid explaining their decisions.

A disgrace to esports? Maybe you do not like it, and that's fine, you can state that this is a personal beef. But to say that it hurts the whole community when so many people end up watching and paying for the event is a bit of a stretch.
@DreamingBird
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