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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
If we keep the Thor, we are currently experimenting with an anti-air spider mine that would give the terrans a way to get some factory-built anti-air into small places that a Thor has trouble reaching (like near your minerals). Whether this is meaningful, considering terrans have marines, is still in question. ... mech doesn't use marines durr - - | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
On April 12 2012 04:04 Falling wrote: I'm a pretty big BW apologist, but I don't think I agree with this. As much as I have grown to dislike what SC2 is, I can't think of a better RTS released in the last 5 years or so. Maybe DoW? I've never played it, but even that is pushing back to 2004. Maybe it wouldn't be as big without SC as it's title, but I think it blows its competition out of the water. Unfortunately, that's not to hard with C&C4 and SupCom2... Anyways, this line of discussion is probably going to drag the discussion down and away from the actual Update. Good post. People need to realize that SC2 is the best RTS since BW(imo), and even though it isn't as good as BW, it is still a good game. Not a great one, but still very good. | ||
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SupeR z
United States73 Posts
On April 12 2012 04:13 413X wrote: I accually get quite furious reading this. How long has the game been out now? 2 years if we count beta. What the hell have they been doing meanwhile? They literally came up with their ideas, made them, showed them to everyone then trashed most of them. Doesn't these guys have a crew that test units? Their game design leader should be fired. Most of the units already in such a poor state in game design. You know this, I know this. If you don't, look at the voidray. It was suppose to be a ship that charge their weapon over time to get better but it's too hard to balance that so they made it a 2 stage weapon with 3 step animation. Why not rework the entire unit. I could go on a huge rant but choose not too because my arguement is this; They will now make more and new units. Try them, probably release whatever shit they come up with as the singel player is done. And we are then stuck with these units and left with patching over a year, AGAIN to accually make the game viable. like him or hate him firing Dustin Browder would most likely make heart of the swarm a complete mess and it may not come for another 2 years think before you speak name one game that the lead designer gets fired and doesnt completely fall to crap | ||
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DALtyler
Canada10 Posts
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Dundron2000
Sweden1140 Posts
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omgCRAZY
Canada551 Posts
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Zaphid
Czech Republic1860 Posts
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DocM
United States212 Posts
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On April 12 2012 04:13 BlueLantern wrote: I don't personally see a huge difference, if say, a Terran player had Dark Swarm or this new spell cast on their bio army, the only difference is that Terran wouldn't be able to fire until within 1 range instead of being completely negated. That's pretty ridiculous when combined with recharging energy from minerals and fungals from Infestors. Zergs cast Dark Swarm over their own melee units so they don't take ranged damage. Protoss cast disruption web over enemy units so they can't fire. This new spell is neither. Seems like they want to see more positioning micro rather than Terrans split their Marines all the way back to their base. | ||
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DoubleReed
United States4130 Posts
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
So now the new stuff is an extremely long range missile? So this thing will be like a scan but kill stuff? Will the next terran harrassment be 'scan, shoot, boom'? Because I'd take Shredder harass over that any time. Glad they changed the Tempest as well, but I don't see the point of a long range atg and ata unit if we already have a carrier which isn't buffed. The viper is still interesting though. Now it has defiler esque devouring as well, which will make up for the huge gas cost that was announced in the alpha at blizzcon. And new nydus options, woo! | ||
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Chronopolis
Canada1484 Posts
The tempest was a powerful splash anti-air capital ship at BlizzCon. With the addition of the range upgrade on phoenix in Wings of Liberty we no longer feel like a splash anti-air weapon is necessary on the protoss, but we would still like to give the protoss some additional firepower in the air. The tempest is currently a very long-ranged aerial siege weapon that can strike both air and ground targets. This gives the protoss army some real reach to force an engagement on their terms in the end-game. The tempest is sounding more and more like the condor from shattered galaxy (long range, slowish, but can line up for an insane aoe burst) | ||
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
This is why their games are better than everyone elses! They don't stop until the have the perfect set of units! Keeping the overseer (By far the most important mention in this blog!!!!), changing the warhound, removing the shredder and replicant, playing around with the nydus, making the viper pure caster.... All these things are fffffffffffffffffffff brilliant! ;D GAH! I can't wait for the release much longer!  | ||
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drbrown
Sweden442 Posts
"as well as a worm that attacks only enemy buildings, meant to be used as a ground-based zerg base raider." "Anya, it's a giant worm! They're sinking cities with a giant worm!" | ||
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Antares777
United States1971 Posts
I am very happy that the Replicant and Shredder are being removed. Both of those units seemed rather gimmicky. I still want them to replace the Swarm Host with the Lurker. The Lurker was the shit, my favorite BW unit by far. I think that Abduct needs to be changed with something else (Plague?). Abduct seems gimmicky, like you can just target the most powerful unit in an enemy army and kill it almost immediately. Then again, Plague and Fungal Growth overlap (both deal damage over time, instant cast, etc). Blizzard's idea to have Nydus Networks spawn different types of Nydus Worms is brilliant, I'd love to see something like that in HotS! Recall on the Nexus is a very bad idea. If the Protoss all-ins, he should not have a get-out-of-jail-free card. | ||
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tarodotoxin
United States110 Posts
i hope they -change the look of the warhound/get rid of it -change the look of the broods the swarm host makes -put in carrier with micro abilities think thatd be a good start... | ||
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ravemir
Portugal595 Posts
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FlyingToilet
United States840 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10813 Posts
They don't add some of the stuff that looked totally retarded in the first place. They keep some stuff that looked totally retarded in the first place (swarm host...) They even add stuff that sounds totally retarded (new carrier, wtf?.. long range missile WTF?). They still keep stuff that is and was retarded since 1.0 and earlyer (colossus most of all...). ... | ||
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blinkingangels
105 Posts
Poll: Should Nexus Recall stay in the game? No. (94) Yes. (38) Yes, but it needs to be tweaked. (29) 161 total votes Your vote: Should Nexus Recall stay in the game? (Vote): Yes. | ||
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