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AzZa651
Denmark39 Posts
Now there are the really pro players like Stephano, Dimaga, White-Ra, Idra etc. etc., but usually they are so popular on the streams because they get so much "media" attention, and naturally because of their skill and their placements, people want to learn from the best right? So if you are not the top notch player, you need the personality to attract people's attention. That's atleast what I've gathered so far. | ||
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DashedHopes
Canada414 Posts
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FlyingToilet
United States840 Posts
On April 05 2012 07:26 pPingu wrote: Get really good at the game, get some fans or do this for insta 10k viewers + Show Spoiler + ROFL i watched that entire video 5 times in like an hour, but linked it to my facebook within like 1 min of the video :D | ||
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goswser
United States3548 Posts
To get popular take up casting. Look at the all the people who, without casting, would be another non-featured streamer who no one has ever heard of. Orb, gretorp, trump, etc. Well trump didn't make it as far because he didn't switch to casting full time, but you get my point. I'm not mad at them for being successful, they are among the smartest of the sc2 streamers, because its WAY easier to get popular by projecting your personality then by being good at starcraft. | ||
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Panzamelano
Colombia248 Posts
and before i get jumped on by people saying "thats bs the guys at twitch will just give you the channel back no matter who you are , you are just overreacting." know that just this last week the stream of DreaIVIs (AoE2 player/caster) was just randomly deleted in the middle of a tournament stream whit no possibility of getting it back because someone reported an apparent copyright breach wich as he isnt a prominecent member of the sc2 community nor he doesnt have friends at Twitch just meant the channel was lost whitouth them even checking if there was actually a copyright breach. | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
Have a cam besides the game stream, showing you as a player. Get a girl on cam, anny girl. This can be your gf, your sister, or even your mother,The prettier the better though.(Not only a troll, this realy works people!) Give commentary while playing. Grab some boobs while playing,Athene style ><. (jk, though it does work with a certain target audience) Either be an extrelemy normal and intelligent guy like grubby, or be a complete idiot (not mentioning names here). You have to stand out and make your stream different from the other 20 zerg/protoss/terran streams, either by beeing well spoken and verry serious, or be beeing a complete idiot. Other then that, just be yourself also works for some people. A sort of middle way is what most players are and then they just like all the other streams people can choose from. Choose your target audience and act accordingly! Make sure the sound settings on the stream are ok, the music and game sounds should not be so loud that it becomes difficult to hear the commentary from the player. Interact with vieuwers but not to much. Promote your stream anny way possible, people cant become a fan if they dont know your stream exists in the first place. Vieuwers atract more vieuwers, when people scroll down the list to watch a stream they often check out streams wich already have quiet a few vieuwers. It is probably not ethical but if you somehow could artificially raise the amount of vieuwers of your stream, by vieuwing them yourself (or friends) multiple times for example, it would work. Oh and most important: dont sing, EVER. | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On April 07 2012 15:39 goswser wrote: Be female, have a webcam? In all seriousness this is the best way. If not you can try getting really good, but this probably won't work unless for some reason the tl mods decide to feature you, which they probably won't. Top grandmasters means you won't get any viewers unless you stream for months in good quality with commentary on a daily basis, at which point you can get 20-50 sometimes, if you have a personality that people like. Otherwise you're screwed. To get popular take up casting. Look at the all the people who, without casting, would be another non-featured streamer who no one has ever heard of. Orb, gretorp, trump, etc. Well trump didn't make it as far because he didn't switch to casting full time, but you get my point. I'm not mad at them for being successful, they are among the smartest of the sc2 streamers, because its WAY easier to get popular by projecting your personality then by being good at starcraft. I had more viewers than anyone but day9 on my stream back in beta. This was before I had ever done casting. You are misinformed | ||
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Mechanism4
United States20 Posts
-How many players will check out the stream on the actual Twitch website as opposed to only watching it through teamliquid or another site like teevox. -Are costume graphics preferred. When I say costum graphics I mean things like custom channel header, background image, and in-game overlay Lately I have been clicking on the view on twitch.tv link from teamliquid to check out what kind of artwork the streamer has as his/her channel background. Though I may end up changing it, I have created my own channel background and header. I think the custom artwork on the channel could really add to the personality of the streamer. I normally prefer no in-game overlay over most of the few overlays I have seen, unless it is something that is fairly professional looking like the EG overlays. The main reason why I don't prefer overlays is because they are so often left on when outside of a match. Seeing an image on screen that does not fit into the screen design removes the suspension of disbelief that I am not in-game with the streamer. | ||
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eden-san
Belgium42 Posts
On April 08 2012 15:48 Mechanism4 wrote: A couple more polls I would like to see are: -How many players will check out the stream on the actual Twitch website as opposed to only watching it through teamliquid or another site like teevox. -Are costume graphics preferred. When I say costum graphics I mean things like custom channel header, background image, and in-game overlay Lately I have been clicking on the view on twitch.tv link from teamliquid to check out what kind of artwork the streamer has as his/her channel background. Though I may end up changing it, I have created my own channel background and header. I think the custom artwork on the channel could really add to the personality of the streamer. I normally prefer no in-game overlay over most of the few overlays I have seen, unless it is something that is fairly professional looking like the EG overlays. The main reason why I don't prefer overlays is because they are so often left on when outside of a match. Seeing an image on screen that does not fit into the screen design removes the suspension of disbelief that I am not in-game with the streamer. Now I'm gonna sound preposterous when I say this, but bringing girls to participate in the stream seem to actually help (Destiny uses this quite a lot  ). | ||
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dotDash
Sweden142 Posts
On April 07 2012 14:50 DashedHopes wrote: Thanks, hopefully I improve my stream features and quality. You're welcome! Im glad I am of any help! :D On April 07 2012 15:39 goswser wrote: Be female, have a webcam? On April 08 2012 17:03 eden-san wrote: Now I'm gonna sound preposterous when I say this, but bringing girls to participate in the stream seem to actually help (Destiny uses this quite a lot ).I'll try to get my girlfriend on to play some with me while being on skype! ;D On April 08 2012 15:48 Mechanism4 wrote: A couple more polls I would like to see are: -How many players will check out the stream on the actual Twitch website as opposed to only watching it through teamliquid or another site like teevox. -Are costume graphics preferred. When I say costum graphics I mean things like custom channel header, background image, and in-game overlay Lately I have been clicking on the view on twitch.tv link from teamliquid to check out what kind of artwork the streamer has as his/her channel background. Though I may end up changing it, I have created my own channel background and header. I think the custom artwork on the channel could really add to the personality of the streamer. I normally prefer no in-game overlay over most of the few overlays I have seen, unless it is something that is fairly professional looking like the EG overlays. The main reason why I don't prefer overlays is because they are so often left on when outside of a match. Seeing an image on screen that does not fit into the screen design removes the suspension of disbelief that I am not in-game with the streamer. I'll make sure the polls get up asap! I would also like to thank everyone in the thread! I really appreciate all the tips you are sharing and feel that my stream has improved for sure! Cheers Dan | ||
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GranDGranT
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
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Warpath
Canada1242 Posts
On April 07 2012 15:39 goswser wrote: To get popular take up casting. Look at the all the people who, without casting, would be another non-featured streamer who no one has ever heard of. Orb, gretorp, trump, etc. Well trump didn't make it as far because he didn't switch to casting full time, but you get my point. I'm not mad at them for being successful, they are among the smartest of the sc2 streamers, because its WAY easier to get popular by projecting your personality then by being good at starcraft. Most people coming over from Broodwar knew who gretorp was. He was one of the few that streamed during Broodwar and was one of the even fewer streams with live-commentary and high level analysis. Trump was good during the beta, which at the time drew in viewers. He also did analysis. I don't know about orbs, but i think he pretty much rage/bmd and did some analysis as well. But now everyone is doing it and you need more than to be analytic to draw in viewers. Trump and Orb were just doing it at the right time to gain some draw. | ||
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ColterTV
Argentina163 Posts
I'm trying to bring high quality stream, by the means of: - Having a schedule If people like your stream and their schedule fits, they will come back. Is good that they know your times. - Interacting with viewers Take / give advice from/to them (many people use streams to improve their knowledge). Being yourself is a nice plus, day9 is day9, don't try to copy him I even made a few practice partners already, and friends that always come back when I'm on. - Having overlays with my stream URL on it so people will remember who I am if they like what they see How many times you clicked on a stream, liked what you see and forgot to favorite? Happened a few times to me as a viewer, and the URL on the overlay is a opportunity to stick your name in people's head - Having fun ! This is #1 for me, and I'm enjoying the experience so far Maybe some of those could prove useful to you Good luck! Japi | ||
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dotDash
Sweden142 Posts
On April 10 2012 03:15 BlackGosu wrote: it's kinda too late to be featured, the market is too saturated. unless you're actually going to LANs and winning, it's gonna be very hard to get featured. Well, in my opinion, people who give provide entertainment or are more skillful than the ones currently featured should either be offered a spot or replace current featured players. I don't know how exactly one gets featured though.. On April 10 2012 03:48 japi wrote: As a non-featured, new streamer, 10ish average viewers, i'm in the same boat as you. I'm trying to bring high quality stream, by the means of: - Having a schedule If people like your stream and their schedule fits, they will come back. Is good that they know your times. - Interacting with viewers Take / give advice from/to them (many people use streams to improve their knowledge). Being yourself is a nice plus, day9 is day9, don't try to copy him I even made a few practice partners already, and friends that always come back when I'm on. - Having overlays with my stream URL on it so people will remember who I am if they like what they see How many times you clicked on a stream, liked what you see and forgot to favorite? Happened a few times to me as a viewer, and the URL on the overlay is a opportunity to stick your name in people's head - Having fun ! This is #1 for me, and I'm enjoying the experience so far Maybe some of those could prove useful to you Good luck! Japi Cheers and feel ya man. I was already having a schedule and interacted as much as possible with the viewers. I just got an overlay aswell, a style.. a theme you can call it I guess. Feel free to check out the epic hello kittyness rofl! Also, agreed about having fun.. if you are bothered about streaming there is no point at all to do so! Cheers Dan | ||
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 08 2012 15:38 -orb- wrote: I had more viewers than anyone but day9 on my stream back in beta. This was before I had ever done casting. You are misinformed people like to see you raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage. or at least i did. lol | ||
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BEARDiaguz
Australia2362 Posts
On April 05 2012 06:26 Grapefruit wrote: a) Flawless quality. b) Good content. c) Regular streaming times. This plus d) top 8 an MLG or smth. | ||
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Callistodusk
United States56 Posts
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dotDash
Sweden142 Posts
On April 11 2012 07:38 Callistodusk wrote: It is important to be a top player. People always bring up Destiny as a player that is popular due to his personality, which is true, but he is still a Grandmaster player. If he was Diamond, it wouldn't be the same. Good point actually. I better work myself up to GM.. not that far away now I think! :D Sadly this isnt easily obtained..  ... and tbh I dont think it is needed. I think that what is really the biggest problem is to get people to click on your stream link. I feel that my stream right now has evolved quite a lot since I started and also feel that its holding a quite high standard. The only problem right now is that I can't stream with that high bitrate as the net here just wont hold it. However, besides that it seems really great. Im getting new followers each day that passes and it makes me feel really good about myself. Sometimes you wish it would all go faster, but hey.. cant get everything now can i?! Cheers Dan | ||
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