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Ok so this is kind of off topic but I saw you guys talking about Fenix not having results on 2011.
In 2011 he:
Beat Heart, clide, luvsic, thestc and MC in the GSTL
Won WCG Peru
Won WCG Panamerican tournament against dKiller
Beat Gretorp, Drewbie, slush and Sheth at MLG Colombus. Placed 11th at a tourney with Koreans.
Went 6-3 in NASL 1: Beating Kiwikkaki, grubby, vibe, artosis, sheth and TLO.
Beat Vibe and white-ra in NASL 2 before leaving due to lag in Peru
Went 3-3 in his WCG group, finishing 3rd in his group.
His leaving of fnatic was his own choice, he upgraded to IM, he was not "dropped."
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On April 04 2012 10:43 Luepert wrote:
Ok so this is kind of off topic but I saw you guys talking about Fenix not having results on 2011.
In 2011 he:
Beat Heart, clide, luvsic, thestc and MC in the GSTL
Won WCG Peru
Won WCG Panamerican tournament against dKiller
Beat Gretorp, Drewbie, slush and Sheth at MLG Colombus. Placed 11th at a tourney with Koreans.
Went 6-3 in NASL 1: Beating Kiwikkaki, grubby, vibe, artosis, sheth and TLO.
Beat Vibe and white-ra in NASL 2 before leaving due to lag in Peru
Went 3-3 in his WCG group, finishing 3rd in his group.
His leaving of fnatic was his own choice, he upgraded to IM, he was not "dropped."
Incorrect
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On April 04 2012 10:53 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 10:43 Luepert wrote:
Ok so this is kind of off topic but I saw you guys talking about Fenix not having results on 2011.
In 2011 he:
Beat Heart, clide, luvsic, thestc and MC in the GSTL
Won WCG Peru
Won WCG Panamerican tournament against dKiller
Beat Gretorp, Drewbie, slush and Sheth at MLG Colombus. Placed 11th at a tourney with Koreans.
Went 6-3 in NASL 1: Beating Kiwikkaki, grubby, vibe, artosis, sheth and TLO.
Beat Vibe and white-ra in NASL 2 before leaving due to lag in Peru
Went 3-3 in his WCG group, finishing 3rd in his group.
His leaving of fnatic was his own choice, he upgraded to IM, he was not "dropped." Incorrect
I'm sorry, I guess I was mistaken on the last one. All the statistics are correct however. (if liquipedia is)
However, I still think IM is an upgrade over Fnatic for him at the time as Fnatic had no house and he was allowed to live in the IM house. Also IM in general has proved more successful than fnatic in most events as well. It is a major accomplishment being only one of very few non-Koreans to join a Korean team.
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On April 04 2012 10:15 -IeZaeL- wrote:
top2 PTSL#2 ...and i won every single clan war (No results? xD)
I left the team because there is no more 2v2s in important leagues ;o~
Recently i qualifed for The Gathering 2012 , but im not going sadly O.O~
There doesn't seem to be any audience for 2v2 in SC2 so "no results" doesn't mean you're a bad player it just means that there's nowhere for you to compete to get results (which is essentially what you've written).
On April 04 2012 10:43 Luepert wrote:
Ok so this is kind of off topic but I saw you guys talking about Fenix not having results on 2011.
In 2011 he:
Beat Heart, clide, luvsic, thestc and MC in the GSTL
Won WCG Peru
Won WCG Panamerican tournament against dKiller
Beat Gretorp, Drewbie, slush and Sheth at MLG Colombus. Placed 11th at a tourney with Koreans.
Went 6-3 in NASL 1: Beating Kiwikkaki, grubby, vibe, artosis, sheth and TLO.
Beat Vibe and white-ra in NASL 2 before leaving due to lag in Peru
Went 3-3 in his WCG group, finishing 3rd in his group.
His leaving of fnatic was his own choice, he upgraded to IM, he was not "dropped."
If Fenix was a newcomer to the scene I'd call those results very promising but not great (aside from leaving the NASL mid-season two -- that is just bad). However, in 2010 he won an IEM event, finished 3rd at Dreamhack and, according to SC2earnings.com, made over $20,000. In 2011, he made about one-tenth of that amount and didn't place in the top 8 at any major event. Calling his 2011 performance mediocre is being generous, but when compared to his 2010 results it's very poor.
Concerning Fenix joining IM: It's easy for us to romanticize how amazing it would be to join a Korean team like IM. However, I can't imagine any player on a major foreign team sees it that way: lower (if any) salary and, for most players on these Korean teams, there's no money to send you to events. To go from being an IEM champion and getting 3rd at Dreamhack to not even being able to attend an IEM or a Dreamhack is not an upgrade.
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Great decision, hope he does well for coL.
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