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FishBones
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia195 Posts
March 13 2012 01:43 GMT
#421
I hope EG pick him up solely for the fact that that'll mean he can live in slayers house. He's pretty creative so it'll be great for both parties (taeja/rest of slayers players) if he stayed in the team.
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 13 2012 02:52 GMT
#422
On March 13 2012 10:43 FishBones wrote:
I hope EG pick him up solely for the fact that that'll mean he can live in slayers house. He's pretty creative so it'll be great for both parties (taeja/rest of slayers players) if he stayed in the team.


He didn't live in the SlayerS house when he was on SlayerS. What makes you think that will suddenly change?
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
March 13 2012 03:04 GMT
#423
On March 12 2012 22:31 theBALLS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 22:27 whiteLotus wrote:
whats with all the koreans "go foreign team" ? do they imagine that foreign teams have gold mines and can pay them 10k$ month?

Well that's almost true. Just look at puma for example


I would highly doubt Puma gets even half that amount. Why in the world do you think EG pays Puma a lot?
hnim
Profile Joined July 2011
United States86 Posts
March 13 2012 03:09 GMT
#424
On March 13 2012 08:28 Big-t wrote:
Would be a shame for TL, if they really pic him. Not that Taeja is bad, but TL has some high requirements.


Taeja is arguably better than every single player on Team Liquid.
Mvp fanboy
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
March 13 2012 03:53 GMT
#425
On March 13 2012 07:48 Keone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 22:27 whiteLotus wrote:
whats with all the koreans "go foreign team" ? do they imagine that foreign teams have gold mines and can pay them 10k$ month?

Inevitable. Two main reasons why.

1. Salary & Quality of Life. Most Koreans don't even get paid a basic salary, nothing; they have to live off their own earnings. Life is difficult, housing is difficult, eating is difficult... basically, it's a really tough life. Look at the EG house; it's like a Korean progamer's dream.

2. Tournament exposure. Koreans are exposed to what? Basically, only the GSL, because they simply can't compete in international tournaments (no invites, no money to fly, no connections, etc.). They look at people who compete internationally (MC, MMA, Puma, even Hero & Zenio) and they see huge amounts of opportunity to compete and win against "easier" foreigner fields. Which to them, is probably true. How many tournaments would Zenio be in if he stayed in OGS? What about Hero? Did anyone really know about the guy before his Liquid switch?

Simply put, they see their struggling friends move to foreigner teams, and then earn both a salary and a lot of tournament winnings, as well as a ton of travel.

Quality of life is something you can't ignore, or blame them for. The Korean SC2 scene is still bad and underexposed.


This has nothing to do with quality of life. You don't really understand how these players live, do you? Not all these players have grown up poor. The major thing they want is more exposure and opportunity to participate in foriegn tournaments.

Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 13 2012 03:53 GMT
#426
On March 13 2012 12:09 hnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 08:28 Big-t wrote:
Would be a shame for TL, if they really pic him. Not that Taeja is bad, but TL has some high requirements.


Taeja is arguably better than every single player on Team Liquid.


At this point in time I think Hero > Taeja but after that I'd agree.
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SYGY
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada88 Posts
March 13 2012 03:56 GMT
#427
hmmm, I wonder why so many SlayerS members are leaving... possibly because they're not sending them over to NA for huge tournaments such as MLG, Dream hack, and IPL?

I'm only assuming.
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 13 2012 03:57 GMT
#428
On March 13 2012 12:56 SYGY wrote:
hmmm, I wonder why so many SlayerS members are leaving... possibly because they're not sending them over to NA for huge tournaments such as MLG, Dream hack, and IPL?

I'm only assuming.


I think SlayerS depth of roster is actually the problem here. They have soooooo many S class players that not all of them can get the proper attention. First world E-Sports team problems.
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Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
March 13 2012 04:05 GMT
#429
On March 13 2012 12:53 jellyjello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 07:48 Keone wrote:
On March 12 2012 22:27 whiteLotus wrote:
whats with all the koreans "go foreign team" ? do they imagine that foreign teams have gold mines and can pay them 10k$ month?

Inevitable. Two main reasons why.

1. Salary & Quality of Life. Most Koreans don't even get paid a basic salary, nothing; they have to live off their own earnings. Life is difficult, housing is difficult, eating is difficult... basically, it's a really tough life. Look at the EG house; it's like a Korean progamer's dream.

2. Tournament exposure. Koreans are exposed to what? Basically, only the GSL, because they simply can't compete in international tournaments (no invites, no money to fly, no connections, etc.). They look at people who compete internationally (MC, MMA, Puma, even Hero & Zenio) and they see huge amounts of opportunity to compete and win against "easier" foreigner fields. Which to them, is probably true. How many tournaments would Zenio be in if he stayed in OGS? What about Hero? Did anyone really know about the guy before his Liquid switch?

Simply put, they see their struggling friends move to foreigner teams, and then earn both a salary and a lot of tournament winnings, as well as a ton of travel.

Quality of life is something you can't ignore, or blame them for. The Korean SC2 scene is still bad and underexposed.


This has nothing to do with quality of life. You don't really understand how these players live, do you? Not all these players have grown up poor. The major thing they want is more exposure and opportunity to participate in foriegn tournaments.



They don't mind the teamhouse living environment so much, but salary + foreign tournament travel are by far the biggest factors, and I suppose salary ties into quality of life.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 13 2012 04:06 GMT
#430
Also, the Slayers team is probably the most popular team amongst foreigner fans. So being on Slayers does make you more marketable to foreign teams.
anApple
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore275 Posts
March 13 2012 04:10 GMT
#431
On March 13 2012 12:04 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 22:31 theBALLS wrote:
On March 12 2012 22:27 whiteLotus wrote:
whats with all the koreans "go foreign team" ? do they imagine that foreign teams have gold mines and can pay them 10k$ month?

Well that's almost true. Just look at puma for example


I would highly doubt Puma gets even half that amount. Why in the world do you think EG pays Puma a lot?

Still, better than what he would have got when he was in TSL.... I think that was the team he was on
huehuehue
FishBones
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia195 Posts
March 13 2012 04:15 GMT
#432
On March 13 2012 11:52 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 10:43 FishBones wrote:
I hope EG pick him up solely for the fact that that'll mean he can live in slayers house. He's pretty creative so it'll be great for both parties (taeja/rest of slayers players) if he stayed in the team.


He didn't live in the SlayerS house when he was on SlayerS. What makes you think that will suddenly change?


I couldn't quite recall whether he lived with slayers or not. Still I think his creativity is an asset to slayers as I think boxer used his reaper medivac build
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 13 2012 04:18 GMT
#433
I would highly doubt Puma gets even half that amount. Why in the world do you think EG pays Puma a lot?


Puma has made $130,000+ in the past year. Sure, not all koreans joining foreign teams will have his level of success at foreign events (especially with more koreans attending those events now). But there is no way he would even be attending those events if he was still with oGs. Unless you are MVP, Nestea, MC, MMA, Boxer, DRG, there just aren't too many invites coming your way from foreign tournaments. Sure, there are qualifiers but with almost the entire Code S trying for some tournaments (MLG arena, etc), it is so tough just to get a spot.

TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
March 13 2012 04:24 GMT
#434
I'm interested to see what team will pick him up?? Good luck to Taeja though i'm sure whatever team he joins will benefit from his knowledge
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pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
March 13 2012 04:28 GMT
#435
On March 13 2012 13:18 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
I would highly doubt Puma gets even half that amount. Why in the world do you think EG pays Puma a lot?


Puma has made $130,000+ in the past year. Sure, not all koreans joining foreign teams will have his level of success at foreign events (especially with more koreans attending those events now). But there is no way he would even be attending those events if he was still with oGs. Unless you are MVP, Nestea, MC, MMA, Boxer, DRG, there just aren't too many invites coming your way from foreign tournaments. Sure, there are qualifiers but with almost the entire Code S trying for some tournaments (MLG arena, etc), it is so tough just to get a spot.



Just to clarify

http://sc2earnings.com/

Sending player to events = glory for the team , player get more fans , more support . Players play better , because they feel thier hard work get them something. No offence to Puma he was always good player , but mainly know form his 1/1/1 , without big succes in Korea . Now look at Puma , he is really strong player
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 13 2012 04:33 GMT
#436
On March 13 2012 13:28 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 13:18 vthree wrote:
I would highly doubt Puma gets even half that amount. Why in the world do you think EG pays Puma a lot?


Puma has made $130,000+ in the past year. Sure, not all koreans joining foreign teams will have his level of success at foreign events (especially with more koreans attending those events now). But there is no way he would even be attending those events if he was still with oGs. Unless you are MVP, Nestea, MC, MMA, Boxer, DRG, there just aren't too many invites coming your way from foreign tournaments. Sure, there are qualifiers but with almost the entire Code S trying for some tournaments (MLG arena, etc), it is so tough just to get a spot.



Just to clarify

http://sc2earnings.com/

Sending player to events = glory for the team , player get more fans , more support . Players play better , because they feel thier hard work get them something. No offence to Puma he was always good player , but mainly know form his 1/1/1 , without big succes in Korea . Now look at Puma , he is really strong player


Will even after his 1/1/1 he was able to beat MMA/JYP and narrowly lost 3-2 to MC in the finals. Not due to the 1/1/1 either so he's obviously a really strong player who people seem to think all he knew how to do was 1/1/1 even though he had beaten MC in a bo7 before in NASL season 1 finals without using 1/1/1 at all.
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Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
March 13 2012 04:34 GMT
#437
foreigners should stop taking up kr players, derpherp
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kabar
Profile Joined November 2010
United States616 Posts
March 13 2012 04:35 GMT
#438
this is unfortunate.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 13 2012 04:37 GMT
#439
On March 13 2012 13:34 Tomken wrote:
foreigners should stop taking up kr players, derpherp

Hmm my impression of the sequence of events is that Taeja didn't feel like his association with slayers was worth it (no money, no attention) and seeks a team elsewhere. Foreign teams make sense because of the travel and exposure and so on.
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pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
March 13 2012 04:39 GMT
#440
On March 13 2012 13:33 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 13:28 pallad wrote:
On March 13 2012 13:18 vthree wrote:
I would highly doubt Puma gets even half that amount. Why in the world do you think EG pays Puma a lot?


Puma has made $130,000+ in the past year. Sure, not all koreans joining foreign teams will have his level of success at foreign events (especially with more koreans attending those events now). But there is no way he would even be attending those events if he was still with oGs. Unless you are MVP, Nestea, MC, MMA, Boxer, DRG, there just aren't too many invites coming your way from foreign tournaments. Sure, there are qualifiers but with almost the entire Code S trying for some tournaments (MLG arena, etc), it is so tough just to get a spot.



Just to clarify

http://sc2earnings.com/

Sending player to events = glory for the team , player get more fans , more support . Players play better , because they feel thier hard work get them something. No offence to Puma he was always good player , but mainly know form his 1/1/1 , without big succes in Korea . Now look at Puma , he is really strong player


Will even after his 1/1/1 he was able to beat MMA/JYP and narrowly lost 3-2 to MC in the finals. Not due to the 1/1/1 either so he's obviously a really strong player who people seem to think all he knew how to do was 1/1/1 even though he had beaten MC in a bo7 before in NASL season 1 finals without using 1/1/1 at all.


Yes i know that , all i try to say wast that , PuMa has no sucess in Korea , MC , MMA DRG , NeStea etc has , but Puma make almost same money like them , hehe not the same , but he is in top 5 without succes in Korea
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