• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:29
CEST 21:29
KST 04:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall9HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6
Community News
Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL47Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?12FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event16Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster16Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Statistics for vetoed/disliked maps Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series [GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Semi Finals & Finals $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event HomeStory Cup 27 (June 27-29)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady
Brood War
General
Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL Help: rep cant save
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Blogs
Culture Clash in Video Games…
TrAiDoS
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 644 users

Taeja Leaving Slayers? - Page 23

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 Next All
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
March 13 2012 04:43 GMT
#441
I hope Liquid` picks up Taeja. As for now TL only has Jinro holding it down as terran on the roster. Liquid`Taeja !
fox77
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada95 Posts
March 13 2012 04:46 GMT
#442
On March 13 2012 12:04 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 22:31 theBALLS wrote:
On March 12 2012 22:27 whiteLotus wrote:
whats with all the koreans "go foreign team" ? do they imagine that foreign teams have gold mines and can pay them 10k$ month?

Well that's almost true. Just look at puma for example


I would highly doubt Puma gets even half that amount. Why in the world do you think EG pays Puma a lot?

Huk and Idra make over 100k can't see Puma making less.
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
March 13 2012 04:52 GMT
#443
On March 13 2012 13:46 fox77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 12:04 FabledIntegral wrote:
On March 12 2012 22:31 theBALLS wrote:
On March 12 2012 22:27 whiteLotus wrote:
whats with all the koreans "go foreign team" ? do they imagine that foreign teams have gold mines and can pay them 10k$ month?

Well that's almost true. Just look at puma for example


I would highly doubt Puma gets even half that amount. Why in the world do you think EG pays Puma a lot?

Huk and Idra make over 100k can't see Puma making less.


IdrA's salary isn't rumored to be that high. I think 50-60k was the estimate that someone in the know threw out. HuK probably does make close to 100k though.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
March 13 2012 04:53 GMT
#444
On March 13 2012 13:46 fox77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 12:04 FabledIntegral wrote:
On March 12 2012 22:31 theBALLS wrote:
On March 12 2012 22:27 whiteLotus wrote:
whats with all the koreans "go foreign team" ? do they imagine that foreign teams have gold mines and can pay them 10k$ month?

Well that's almost true. Just look at puma for example


I would highly doubt Puma gets even half that amount. Why in the world do you think EG pays Puma a lot?

Huk and Idra make over 100k can't see Puma making less.

That's the beauty of picking up exotic players, you have better players for less. It happens in other sports too.
hnim
Profile Joined July 2011
United States86 Posts
March 13 2012 05:00 GMT
#445
On March 13 2012 13:52 holy_war wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 13:46 fox77 wrote:
On March 13 2012 12:04 FabledIntegral wrote:
On March 12 2012 22:31 theBALLS wrote:
On March 12 2012 22:27 whiteLotus wrote:
whats with all the koreans "go foreign team" ? do they imagine that foreign teams have gold mines and can pay them 10k$ month?

Well that's almost true. Just look at puma for example


I would highly doubt Puma gets even half that amount. Why in the world do you think EG pays Puma a lot?

Huk and Idra make over 100k can't see Puma making less.


IdrA's salary isn't rumored to be that high. I think 50-60k was the estimate that someone in the know threw out. HuK probably does make close to 100k though.


I'm not sure if this is for their Starcraft team, but EG has mentioned that "in 2012, Evil Geniuses is both the world’s premier professional gaming team – with more than 25 salaried players, some of whose base salaries eclipse six figures"
Mvp fanboy
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 13 2012 05:04 GMT
#446
I don't think it's fair to say that foreign teams pay their players that much better than the Korean teams. Yes, at the very top, if you're a Huk, Idra, or Naniwa, yeah, but look at Check. He joined eSahara, leaving Prime to go join a foreign team and he just retired.

Could be different for Taeja, though. He's young, very talented, a Code S player, and is pretty damn marketable with a good personality. Also his keyboard looks delicious.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
naggerNZ
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand708 Posts
March 13 2012 05:06 GMT
#447
Well whoever picks Taeja up (someone will guarantee it) he'll be worth every penny. He's insanely good and only like 17(?).
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 13 2012 05:08 GMT
#448
On March 13 2012 14:04 Fionn wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say that foreign teams pay their players that much better than the Korean teams. Yes, at the very top, if you're a Huk, Idra, or Naniwa, yeah, but look at Check. He joined eSahara, leaving Prime to go join a foreign team and he just retired.

Could be different for Taeja, though. He's young, very talented, a Code S player, and is pretty damn marketable with a good personality. Also his keyboard looks delicious.


You then highly overestimate how much non-Nestea's, MvP's, etc's get paid. Just the travel benefits alone are massive, let alone the salaries (which most Koreans don't get or is insignificant).
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
hnim
Profile Joined July 2011
United States86 Posts
March 13 2012 05:10 GMT
#449
On March 13 2012 14:08 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 14:04 Fionn wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say that foreign teams pay their players that much better than the Korean teams. Yes, at the very top, if you're a Huk, Idra, or Naniwa, yeah, but look at Check. He joined eSahara, leaving Prime to go join a foreign team and he just retired.

Could be different for Taeja, though. He's young, very talented, a Code S player, and is pretty damn marketable with a good personality. Also his keyboard looks delicious.


You then highly overestimate how much non-Nestea's, MvP's, etc's get paid. Just the travel benefits alone are massive, let alone the salaries (which most Koreans don't get or is insignificant).


Speaking of which I wonder how much Nestea and Mvp make. I mean I've heard IM is not one of the richest teams.
Mvp fanboy
FiNTer
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland153 Posts
March 13 2012 05:13 GMT
#450
On March 13 2012 14:10 hnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 14:08 Diamond wrote:
On March 13 2012 14:04 Fionn wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say that foreign teams pay their players that much better than the Korean teams. Yes, at the very top, if you're a Huk, Idra, or Naniwa, yeah, but look at Check. He joined eSahara, leaving Prime to go join a foreign team and he just retired.

Could be different for Taeja, though. He's young, very talented, a Code S player, and is pretty damn marketable with a good personality. Also his keyboard looks delicious.


You then highly overestimate how much non-Nestea's, MvP's, etc's get paid. Just the travel benefits alone are massive, let alone the salaries (which most Koreans don't get or is insignificant).


Speaking of which I wonder how much Nestea and Mvp make. I mean I've heard IM is not one of the richest teams.

IM is the one of the richest teams, lol.
Slayers`terran fan
snatcch
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States133 Posts
March 13 2012 05:14 GMT
#451
On March 13 2012 07:35 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 07:04 Otolia wrote:
On March 13 2012 06:58 bucckevin wrote:
On March 13 2012 06:54 Otolia wrote:
On March 13 2012 06:51 bucckevin wrote:
On March 13 2012 06:45 supdubdup wrote:
On March 13 2012 06:40 bucckevin wrote:
On March 13 2012 05:45 Diamond wrote:
On March 13 2012 05:44 CarlosOmse wrote:
i still dont know how u cant understand that @ slayers hes just a team meber dont rl get payd trips and isnt a "star"
if he joins a foreign team he probally is the aceplayer getting the most attention will be able to play more majo foreign events!


^ This.

On SlayerS he is just "another awesome SlayerS terran". On a foreign team he's an ace or top top top player for the team. It's sort of like Axslav and EG.




Taeja is probably the biggest name with talent, besides MC, to join a foreign team. Up till now, we've only really had B-teamers, people unable to even qualify for the GSL go to foreign teams. If he has Puma success, I can really see more and more Koreans follow in his footsteps. It could be good or bad depending on how you look at it.

But wouldn't u want to be THE terran on Slayers, eclipsing MMA and etc. in popularity. But maybe he just wants more money. I'd understand that too.



It's the money. He probably got like 50-200 bucks each time he won those ESV weeklies, against quality Korea opponents. Now, imagine him doing that against inferior foreign opponents for $1,000-$15,000.... I blame the sponsors for throwing all the money at crap ass foreign teams :>

You have no idea how sponsoring works, don't you ?

more viewers/exposure/marketability = more sponsors/money?

Good. Now read your post again and understand why koreans teams don't find international sponsors.


They almost all have major international sponsors.

Slayers are sponsored by Intel and Razer
IM are sponsored by Steelseries, Burn and CocaCola (although there's a lot of confusion about what they get from it)
Startale are sponsored by BenQ, Zowie and Red Bull
oGs are sponsored by Razer, MSI and Corsair
MVP are sponsored by Razer, Creative and Sound Blaster
Prime are sponsored by Thermaltake

But what with the cost of running and maintaining their houses and allowing 10-20 player to live their free of charge they're unable to pay salaries in addition to that.

Foreign teams tend to skip the housing entirely have a quarter of the players and thus can pay salaries.


PRIME is also sponsored by OCZ
http://www.twitter.com/ericfbrinkley
crazyweasel
Profile Joined March 2011
607 Posts
March 13 2012 05:15 GMT
#452
TL definately needs another terran but i don't see them picking taeja. so far they've picked hero and zenio which were from the OGS team and sheth who fitted really well the team. i was actually thinkin they would've picked nada. but one sure thiing is that he wont be teamless for long
naux
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada738 Posts
March 13 2012 05:15 GMT
#453
if you guys didnt know idra started that he made like 50 dollars an hour while he was streaming.. and in one video where Huk just got recruited to EG they started talking about salaries and at one part Huk was saying the highest paid player wasss ahh i forgot what his name was but he was making 250k and Huk said he was confident he was top 3 player paid in the world and if he thinks his getting top 3 paid in the world his obiviously making close to 100k
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 13 2012 05:16 GMT
#454
On March 13 2012 14:08 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 14:04 Fionn wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say that foreign teams pay their players that much better than the Korean teams. Yes, at the very top, if you're a Huk, Idra, or Naniwa, yeah, but look at Check. He joined eSahara, leaving Prime to go join a foreign team and he just retired.

Could be different for Taeja, though. He's young, very talented, a Code S player, and is pretty damn marketable with a good personality. Also his keyboard looks delicious.


You then highly overestimate how much non-Nestea's, MvP's, etc's get paid. Just the travel benefits alone are massive, let alone the salaries (which most Koreans don't get or is insignificant).


I know, but I'm saying the non-Huk's, Idra's, and Naniwa's don't make gigantic bank. It's like the Koreans think that all the foreigners are making tons of cash when that probably isn't a case.

For Taeja, this could be a good move. He is a Code S player who is marketable enough to probably get a lot more money on a top foreign team. But not every Korean who has tried to do this has worked out.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 05:17:35
March 13 2012 05:16 GMT
#455
On March 13 2012 14:14 snatcch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 07:35 Seraphone wrote:
On March 13 2012 07:04 Otolia wrote:
On March 13 2012 06:58 bucckevin wrote:
On March 13 2012 06:54 Otolia wrote:
On March 13 2012 06:51 bucckevin wrote:
On March 13 2012 06:45 supdubdup wrote:
On March 13 2012 06:40 bucckevin wrote:
On March 13 2012 05:45 Diamond wrote:
On March 13 2012 05:44 CarlosOmse wrote:
i still dont know how u cant understand that @ slayers hes just a team meber dont rl get payd trips and isnt a "star"
if he joins a foreign team he probally is the aceplayer getting the most attention will be able to play more majo foreign events!


^ This.

On SlayerS he is just "another awesome SlayerS terran". On a foreign team he's an ace or top top top player for the team. It's sort of like Axslav and EG.




Taeja is probably the biggest name with talent, besides MC, to join a foreign team. Up till now, we've only really had B-teamers, people unable to even qualify for the GSL go to foreign teams. If he has Puma success, I can really see more and more Koreans follow in his footsteps. It could be good or bad depending on how you look at it.

But wouldn't u want to be THE terran on Slayers, eclipsing MMA and etc. in popularity. But maybe he just wants more money. I'd understand that too.



It's the money. He probably got like 50-200 bucks each time he won those ESV weeklies, against quality Korea opponents. Now, imagine him doing that against inferior foreign opponents for $1,000-$15,000.... I blame the sponsors for throwing all the money at crap ass foreign teams :>

You have no idea how sponsoring works, don't you ?

more viewers/exposure/marketability = more sponsors/money?

Good. Now read your post again and understand why koreans teams don't find international sponsors.


They almost all have major international sponsors.

Slayers are sponsored by Intel and Razer
IM are sponsored by Steelseries, Burn and CocaCola (although there's a lot of confusion about what they get from it)
Startale are sponsored by BenQ, Zowie and Red Bull
oGs are sponsored by Razer, MSI and Corsair
MVP are sponsored by Razer, Creative and Sound Blaster
Prime are sponsored by Thermaltake

But what with the cost of running and maintaining their houses and allowing 10-20 player to live their free of charge they're unable to pay salaries in addition to that.

Foreign teams tend to skip the housing entirely have a quarter of the players and thus can pay salaries.


PRIME is also sponsored by OCZ


SlayerS as a team was never sponsored by Intel (only BoxeR) and also recently lost their Razer sponsorship (whether Razer dropped them in favor of MVP or SlayerS didn't want to re-contract, I don't know)

EDIT: MVP is no longer sponsored by Creative/Soundblaster assuming conflict with Razer. Startale is also not sponsored by Red Bull, only Bomber.
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
March 13 2012 05:26 GMT
#456
Slayers poster boy is MMA. Maybe they dont want to stay in Slayers and be remembered as the "guys other than MMA" forever. Young people have great ambitions. This may not be the only reason nor the main reason, but it probably is one of the reasons anyway.

Best luck in the future, Taeja.
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
March 13 2012 05:35 GMT
#457
Taeja is definitely not someone i see staying at a high level once he leaves slayers.

ah well, guess slayers will have to make do with the rest of their excellent players.
justsayinbro
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
307 Posts
March 13 2012 05:37 GMT
#458
Not surprised as it seemed like taeja is overshadowed by mma in slayers.
jkc
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States83 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 05:50:10
March 13 2012 05:48 GMT
#459
On March 13 2012 14:35 Headnoob wrote:
Taeja is definitely not someone i see staying at a high level once he leaves slayers.

ah well, guess slayers will have to make do with the rest of their excellent players.


Many Korean pros practice with their friends or clan-mates (who aren't always part of their teams). Just because he isn't a SlayerS member anymore doesn't mean he won't be able to practice with his friends on the team.

Given how key the SlayerS coaches have been with the team's success there's obvious advantages to being on SlayerS team. However there's no evidence that supports the argument that leaving SlayerS will mean Taeja won't be able to continue practicing and playing at a high level.

I'm not too thrilled that Taeja is leaving SlayerS either, but I think Taeja will do just fine wherever he goes.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 13 2012 06:04 GMT
#460
On March 13 2012 13:18 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
I would highly doubt Puma gets even half that amount. Why in the world do you think EG pays Puma a lot?


Puma has made $130,000+ in the past year. Sure, not all koreans joining foreign teams will have his level of success at foreign events (especially with more koreans attending those events now). But there is no way he would even be attending those events if he was still with oGs. Unless you are MVP, Nestea, MC, MMA, Boxer, DRG, there just aren't too many invites coming your way from foreign tournaments. Sure, there are qualifiers but with almost the entire Code S trying for some tournaments (MLG arena, etc), it is so tough just to get a spot.



He was on TSL actually, rather different. Just to clarify.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 31m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 802
BRAT_OK 159
JuggernautJason77
MindelVK 34
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 17227
Dewaltoss 150
Aegong 45
sas.Sziky 39
soO 37
zelot 16
GoRush 10
IntoTheRainbow 6
yabsab 4
Stormgate
TKL 111
NightEnD7
Dota 2
Gorgc6784
qojqva3111
League of Legends
Dendi1365
JimRising 278
Counter-Strike
fl0m1728
flusha341
sgares205
Foxcn139
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King131
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu488
Other Games
summit1g4679
FrodaN2395
ceh9743
elazer223
RotterdaM180
Pyrionflax86
Sick64
Trikslyr61
kaitlyn55
trigger1
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV36
StarCraft 2
angryscii 27
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 4
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 23
• 80smullet 20
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2187
• Doublelift1864
• masondota2424
Other Games
• imaqtpie879
• Shiphtur279
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 31m
RSL Revival
14h 31m
herO vs SHIN
Reynor vs Cure
OSC
17h 31m
WardiTV European League
20h 31m
Scarlett vs Percival
Jumy vs ArT
YoungYakov vs Shameless
uThermal vs Fjant
Nicoract vs goblin
Harstem vs Gerald
FEL
20h 31m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 7h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 14h
RSL Revival
1d 14h
FEL
1d 20h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
FEL
2 days
BSL: ProLeague
2 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-28
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.