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The reason to not invite Puma isn't just because they want a foreigner, but because GSL isn't exactly hurting for another Terran.
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HeH, i wonder if he'll get pvp first round and have a prayer of winning if his opponent chooses a coin-flippy build, and therefore nani-fans can explode about how he's the best foreigner in the world, or if he'll just get rolled like every other time he's been in gsl.
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On March 12 2012 18:20 Laryleprakon wrote:
I wonder if violet was close to being considered, would be nice to have more zergs. Will be fun to see polts tvp :D
Well, violet seems to be pretty happy in the USA, not sure if he even wants to return to Korea.
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On March 12 2012 18:48 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 18:44 Asha` wrote:On March 12 2012 18:35 Zzoram wrote:On March 12 2012 18:31 Asha` wrote:On March 12 2012 18:24 Zzoram wrote:On March 12 2012 18:15 Asha` wrote:On March 12 2012 18:10 Maenander wrote:On March 12 2012 18:04 Asha` wrote:
rofl Naniwa getting seeded to Code S =/ Polt and Naniwa were the logical choices with Stephano not willing to participate in GSL. Like it or not, foreigners generate interest. I don't mind it, I just don't think you should be getting a seed into the best league around if your record in it (predominantly in the lower part of that league) is 1-12. Naniwa is the most consistent Korean killer of all the foreigners, even if he did terrible in Code A in the past. Naniwa beat Nestea in 3/3 series, MVP in 1/1, and Leenock in 1/2. Those Koreans are no slouches and beating them proves he's the toughest foreigner. His results against Koreans is better than even Stephano and Huk. As loathe as I am to admit it, Huk is the most consistent Korean killer of all the foreigners. I just don't like that you can get absolutely destroyed over and over again in the GSL and then on the back of a good weekend where you win two 2-1 series at another event you somehow get promoted to Code S. Huk hasn't been that consistent lately and lost to Terious in Code A while Naniwa showed us he's still got it in his series against Nestea and Leenock. Right, so it's bad for one player to drop out of Code A but it's fine for another to have never even won a map in it... Huk did also beat Oz 2-0, who's arguably the best player of that trio right now (it was PvP though =p) Not that I'm advocating a spot for Huk either or anything, I was only argueing that he's much more proven against Korean players in competition than Naniwa. My main gripe is still the whole doing really badly but ending up seeded into an even higher part of the tournament thing. That was many months ago though, Naniwa has clearly improved since then. He has Nestea's number and Nestea has been in every Code S ever, the most consistent Zerg. Naniwa also beat MVP just after his peak period of being the best Terran in the world. What I find odd is how many foreigners are stagnating but Naniwa keeps improving. He must've figured out the best training method to correct his weaknesses, while other players are just mindlessly training but not correcting their faults.
I don't know who's stagnating, it's more like foreigner scene is that far behind good foreigners can't stand in the GSL.
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On March 12 2012 18:48 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 18:44 Asha` wrote:On March 12 2012 18:35 Zzoram wrote:On March 12 2012 18:31 Asha` wrote:On March 12 2012 18:24 Zzoram wrote:On March 12 2012 18:15 Asha` wrote:On March 12 2012 18:10 Maenander wrote:On March 12 2012 18:04 Asha` wrote:
rofl Naniwa getting seeded to Code S =/ Polt and Naniwa were the logical choices with Stephano not willing to participate in GSL. Like it or not, foreigners generate interest. I don't mind it, I just don't think you should be getting a seed into the best league around if your record in it (predominantly in the lower part of that league) is 1-12. Naniwa is the most consistent Korean killer of all the foreigners, even if he did terrible in Code A in the past. Naniwa beat Nestea in 3/3 series, MVP in 1/1, and Leenock in 1/2. Those Koreans are no slouches and beating them proves he's the toughest foreigner. His results against Koreans is better than even Stephano and Huk. As loathe as I am to admit it, Huk is the most consistent Korean killer of all the foreigners. I just don't like that you can get absolutely destroyed over and over again in the GSL and then on the back of a good weekend where you win two 2-1 series at another event you somehow get promoted to Code S. Huk hasn't been that consistent lately and lost to Terious in Code A while Naniwa showed us he's still got it in his series against Nestea and Leenock. Right, so it's bad for one player to drop out of Code A but it's fine for another to have never even won a map in it... Huk did also beat Oz 2-0, who's arguably the best player of that trio right now (it was PvP though =p) Not that I'm advocating a spot for Huk either or anything, I was only argueing that he's much more proven against Korean players in competition than Naniwa. My main gripe is still the whole doing really badly but ending up seeded into an even higher part of the tournament thing. That was many months ago though, Naniwa has clearly improved since then. He has Nestea's number and Nestea has been in every Code S ever, the most consistent Zerg. Naniwa also beat MVP just after his peak period of being the best Terran in the world. What I find odd is how many foreigners are stagnating but Naniwa keeps improving. He must've figured out the best training method to correct his weaknesses, while other players are just mindlessly training but not correcting their faults.
His interview at MLG WA also showed kind of a different naniwa, not the one that was constantly angry with himself for not winning everything ever, but someone who sort of...calmed down. I think joining QxG and the ST house has done him a lot of good.
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On March 12 2012 18:44 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 18:43 opterown wrote:On March 12 2012 18:41 Zzoram wrote:
I think Naniwa will at least make it past his first round as long as he doesn't face DRG. inb4 DRG chooses NaNiwa for his group  Haha, i can see that happening actually :p
In order for that, NaNiWa has to win a GSL match first
But GL to him to get into RO16!
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On March 12 2012 18:44 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 18:35 Zzoram wrote:On March 12 2012 18:31 Asha` wrote:On March 12 2012 18:24 Zzoram wrote:On March 12 2012 18:15 Asha` wrote:On March 12 2012 18:10 Maenander wrote:On March 12 2012 18:04 Asha` wrote:
rofl Naniwa getting seeded to Code S =/ Polt and Naniwa were the logical choices with Stephano not willing to participate in GSL. Like it or not, foreigners generate interest. I don't mind it, I just don't think you should be getting a seed into the best league around if your record in it (predominantly in the lower part of that league) is 1-12. Naniwa is the most consistent Korean killer of all the foreigners, even if he did terrible in Code A in the past. Naniwa beat Nestea in 3/3 series, MVP in 1/1, and Leenock in 1/2. Those Koreans are no slouches and beating them proves he's the toughest foreigner. His results against Koreans is better than even Stephano and Huk. As loathe as I am to admit it, Huk is the most consistent Korean killer of all the foreigners. I just don't like that you can get absolutely destroyed over and over again in the GSL and then on the back of a good weekend where you win two 2-1 series at another event you somehow get promoted to Code S. Huk hasn't been that consistent lately and lost to Terious in Code A while Naniwa showed us he's still got it in his series against Nestea and Leenock. Right, so it's bad for one player to drop out of Code A but it's fine for another to have never even won a map in it... Huk did also beat Oz 2-0, who's arguably the best player of that trio right now (it was PvP though =p) Not that I'm advocating a spot for Huk either or anything, I was only argueing that he's much more proven against Korean players in competition than Naniwa. My main gripe is still the whole doing really badly but ending up seeded into an even higher part of the tournament thing.
It was half a year ago that Naniwa had problems against Lucky in Code A. Much has changed since then, and giving him another chance doesn't seem that unreasonable, with being a top 3 foreigner and all.
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Going to give Gom the benefit of the doubt and say that the Naniwa choice was made before the completion of IEM WC.
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On March 12 2012 18:51 Mycl wrote:
Going to give Gom the benefit of the doubt and say that the Naniwa choice was made before the completion of IEM WC.
Yep, quite some time before.
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On March 12 2012 18:49 GreyKnight wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 18:48 Zzoram wrote:On March 12 2012 18:44 Asha` wrote:On March 12 2012 18:35 Zzoram wrote:On March 12 2012 18:31 Asha` wrote:On March 12 2012 18:24 Zzoram wrote:On March 12 2012 18:15 Asha` wrote:On March 12 2012 18:10 Maenander wrote:On March 12 2012 18:04 Asha` wrote:
rofl Naniwa getting seeded to Code S =/ Polt and Naniwa were the logical choices with Stephano not willing to participate in GSL. Like it or not, foreigners generate interest. I don't mind it, I just don't think you should be getting a seed into the best league around if your record in it (predominantly in the lower part of that league) is 1-12. Naniwa is the most consistent Korean killer of all the foreigners, even if he did terrible in Code A in the past. Naniwa beat Nestea in 3/3 series, MVP in 1/1, and Leenock in 1/2. Those Koreans are no slouches and beating them proves he's the toughest foreigner. His results against Koreans is better than even Stephano and Huk. As loathe as I am to admit it, Huk is the most consistent Korean killer of all the foreigners. I just don't like that you can get absolutely destroyed over and over again in the GSL and then on the back of a good weekend where you win two 2-1 series at another event you somehow get promoted to Code S. Huk hasn't been that consistent lately and lost to Terious in Code A while Naniwa showed us he's still got it in his series against Nestea and Leenock. Right, so it's bad for one player to drop out of Code A but it's fine for another to have never even won a map in it... Huk did also beat Oz 2-0, who's arguably the best player of that trio right now (it was PvP though =p) Not that I'm advocating a spot for Huk either or anything, I was only argueing that he's much more proven against Korean players in competition than Naniwa. My main gripe is still the whole doing really badly but ending up seeded into an even higher part of the tournament thing. That was many months ago though, Naniwa has clearly improved since then. He has Nestea's number and Nestea has been in every Code S ever, the most consistent Zerg. Naniwa also beat MVP just after his peak period of being the best Terran in the world. What I find odd is how many foreigners are stagnating but Naniwa keeps improving. He must've figured out the best training method to correct his weaknesses, while other players are just mindlessly training but not correcting their faults. I don't know who's stagnating, it's more like foreigner scene is that far behind good foreigners can't stand in the GSL.
Most foreigners play like robots with questionable unit control, Naniwa actually plays a very reactive style with excellent micro. You have to play super reactive against tricky Koreans.
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On March 12 2012 18:51 Mycl wrote:
Going to give Gom the benefit of the doubt and say that the Naniwa choice was made before the completion of IEM WC.
It definitely was, he was tweeting about it before the end of IEM.
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So the only 2 foreigners in GSL now are both seeded and if Huk doesn't make it out of his group... I feel so bad for Gom. They want to globalize their market but every foreigner gets 2-0ed the first round and no foreigner even made it through the qualifiers.
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Naniwa & Polt good choices.
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Bit unfair on groups B and E, they get 2 people qualifying for Code S but only 5 people in each group, Group A C D all have 6 players and the same top 2 go through xD
Wish GOM just found another player for the other groups makes it fair that way. Oh well ^_^
GL GL Inca and Huk ♥
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On March 12 2012 18:15 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 18:10 Maenander wrote:On March 12 2012 18:04 Asha` wrote:
rofl Naniwa getting seeded to Code S =/ Polt and Naniwa were the logical choices with Stephano not willing to participate in GSL. Like it or not, foreigners generate interest. I don't mind it, I just don't think you should be getting a seed into the best league around if your record in it (predominantly in the lower part of that league) is 1-12.
MMA got seeded with a 7-6 record in Code A. It's not a very good indicator on whether or not you deserve to be in Code S. Naniwa is 0-6 in Code A but the first 2 losses came right after he got off a plane and had just gotten to Korea. And the other 4 losses came to Lucky who most consider to have a top 2 ZvP in Korea.
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On March 12 2012 18:55 Pandemona wrote:
Bit unfair on groups B and E, they get 2 people qualifying for Code S but only 5 people in each group, Group A C D all have 6 players and the same top 2 go through xD
Wish GOM just found another player for the other groups makes it fair that way. Oh well ^_^
GL GL Inca and Huk ♥
If Puma made it back to Korea in time they should've given Puma the seed DeMuslim gave up because he was sick.
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On March 12 2012 18:52 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 18:51 Mycl wrote:
Going to give Gom the benefit of the doubt and say that the Naniwa choice was made before the completion of IEM WC. It definitely was, he was tweeting about it before the end of IEM.
Cant complain about the choice then but I would like to see Gom wait out for the major tournaments to wrap up before making the choice. I will be looking forward to Puma in Code S next season 
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And finally justice has been served. A well deserved code S spot for Naniwa.
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did gom release their reasoning ?
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On March 12 2012 18:57 HuK wrote:
did gom release their reasoning ?
Not officially. All we can speculate is that he beat Leenock and Nestea at MLG Winter Arena, plus GOM wanted him back after his "time-out". He beat two top Koreans vs you beating one top Korean at MLG WA, so that's probably another reason they ranked him above you.
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