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MafiaCheese
Profile Joined April 2010
United States87 Posts
March 09 2012 06:28 GMT
#441
I wish you the best. EG was forced into a position where they had to let you go, and it must be so crushing to have achieved such a big step in your dream and have it all taken away in an instant.I dont agree with the casual use of words that stir up powerfull negative emotions in others despite your own intention, and unfortunately the punishment doesnt fit the crime, as it was being used in a non racial context

The exact same thing has happened to me landing a really great career, just know that as hard as it is going to be for you, its important to stay positive and take something from the experience.
liberal
Profile Joined November 2011
1116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 06:32:03
March 09 2012 06:28 GMT
#442
I'd like to apologize to you, Orb, for the way this "community" has tried to crucify you over some words uttered in a state of anger in a video game on the internet... You made a mistake and now you've apologized, so hopefully people can move on with the lives they don't have...
FortyOzs
Profile Joined February 2011
189 Posts
March 09 2012 06:28 GMT
#443
Too bad reddit causes shit like this to happen, people need to get over it and stop taking everything so seriously and offensively. I'll never understand why they want to find something streamed months ago and cause someone to be fired because of it, too many karma/attention whores.
ZerguufOu
Profile Joined December 2011
United States107 Posts
March 09 2012 06:29 GMT
#444
On March 09 2012 15:23 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 15:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:13 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:07 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:53 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:52 PauseBreak wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:50 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:49 PauseBreak wrote:
Orb,

Idra says far worse and acts more like a child than any other professional sc2 player, especially when he streams. EG needs to fire Idra if they fired you.

Alex Garfield needs to either stand where he says he's standing or he's being predigious himself by not following through with his words.

IdrA doesnt call people extreme names thent ry to hide that he does it


I'm not upset or anything. So don't take my posts the wrong way.

Idra calling people "faggots" is extremely offensive. If Alex was gay I garentee that Idra would get the boot fast than you can spell applesauce.

he already addressed idra. go read the other thread.


A mild scolding and firing someone is hardly the same thing.

captain obvious? alex doesnt consider idra/orb's conduct to be the same, so he doesn't treat them the same.


Why is using the word nigger so much worse than faggot? They're both offensive.

i agree.


Then perhaps Idra deserves to be fired from EG too? I don't want that to happen personally, I'm just pointing out the inconsistency.


welcome to real life. important people get special privileges
mrGRAPE
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore293 Posts
March 09 2012 06:30 GMT
#445
On March 09 2012 15:17 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
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On March 09 2012 13:19 sam!zdat wrote:
I'm sorry this happened to you.

Nobody thinks you are a racist.

I think there will be other opportunities for you.


Unfortunately, there are some people here who have never played (or at least lost) to a frustrating cheese, and thus fail to judge him from the position he was in. This position should necessarily excuse orb for his actions, but they definitely should not totally condemn him either.



The situation shouldn't dictate a person's response. The person should dictate the response.
Starcraft 2 and eSports enthusiast. https://twitter.com/#!/mrGRAPETV | http://mrgrapetv.wordpress.com/
Kinsal
Profile Joined August 2011
United States66 Posts
March 09 2012 06:31 GMT
#446
all of this because BM on battle.net pretty silly
HarryHood
Profile Joined August 2010
United States105 Posts
March 09 2012 06:31 GMT
#447
Later Orb, don't come back!
It's not like I just one day DECIDED to play Terran. I was born that way, and there isn't one thing I or anybody else can do about it.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
March 09 2012 06:31 GMT
#448
Bad situation, people getting up in arms is kinda understandable, but I think most of us know that what you said doesn't reflect your views.

It's shitty, heres hoping you can keep walking this road, and keep contributing as you can.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
Adonisto
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada191 Posts
March 09 2012 06:32 GMT
#449
You apologies for your behavior, fair enough, but something is missing:

Quote from orb on reddit:
Had it been me that said this, I would have apologized immediately. But it wasn't. I apologize for sharing my account I guess, but that's something tons of people do, and it's not something that will happen again in the future.

So now that it's been proven that you didn't share your account and that it was in fact you playing, how about you apologies for your lies instead?
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 09 2012 06:33 GMT
#450
On March 09 2012 15:24 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 15:23 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:13 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:07 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:53 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:52 PauseBreak wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:50 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:49 PauseBreak wrote:
Orb,

Idra says far worse and acts more like a child than any other professional sc2 player, especially when he streams. EG needs to fire Idra if they fired you.

Alex Garfield needs to either stand where he says he's standing or he's being predigious himself by not following through with his words.

IdrA doesnt call people extreme names thent ry to hide that he does it


I'm not upset or anything. So don't take my posts the wrong way.

Idra calling people "faggots" is extremely offensive. If Alex was gay I garentee that Idra would get the boot fast than you can spell applesauce.

he already addressed idra. go read the other thread.


A mild scolding and firing someone is hardly the same thing.

captain obvious? alex doesnt consider idra/orb's conduct to be the same, so he doesn't treat them the same.


Why is using the word nigger so much worse than faggot? They're both offensive.

i agree.


Then perhaps Idra deserves to be fired from EG too? I don't want that to happen personally, I'm just pointing out the inconsistency.

that horse has already been beatern and adressed multiple times feel free to do a little digging


Not really. Some people are saying this is worse because of Orb's lying but apparently Alex said the use of the word 'nigger' was enough to get him fired regardless, so really it seems that using the word "nigger" is enough to get someone fired while using the word "faggot" isn't, which to me seems inconsistent.

Anyway, I hope the reddit lynch mob can calm down after this apology and Orb gets a chance to cast again later.
Lifter
Profile Joined April 2011
United States126 Posts
March 09 2012 06:36 GMT
#451
Wtf is wrong with some of you? Don't feel sorry for the guy, he totally deserves it. If you act like a douchebag for so long, don't be surprised if it comes to bite you in the ass later.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 06:38:39
March 09 2012 06:36 GMT
#452
On March 09 2012 15:33 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 15:24 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:23 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:13 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:07 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:53 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:52 PauseBreak wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:50 Forikorder wrote:
[quote]
IdrA doesnt call people extreme names thent ry to hide that he does it


I'm not upset or anything. So don't take my posts the wrong way.

Idra calling people "faggots" is extremely offensive. If Alex was gay I garentee that Idra would get the boot fast than you can spell applesauce.

he already addressed idra. go read the other thread.


A mild scolding and firing someone is hardly the same thing.

captain obvious? alex doesnt consider idra/orb's conduct to be the same, so he doesn't treat them the same.


Why is using the word nigger so much worse than faggot? They're both offensive.

i agree.


Then perhaps Idra deserves to be fired from EG too? I don't want that to happen personally, I'm just pointing out the inconsistency.

that horse has already been beatern and adressed multiple times feel free to do a little digging


Not really. Some people are saying this is worse because of Orb's lying but apparently Alex said the use of the word 'nigger' was enough to get him fired regardless, so really it seems that using the word "nigger" is enough to get someone fired while using the word "faggot" isn't, which to me seems inconsistent.

Anyway, I hope the reddit lynch mob can calm down after this apology and Orb gets a chance to cast again later.

i guess you live under a rock or something the vast majority of people consider the word nigger to be the most offense word in existance thats just fact

also going at some random person on the internet and calling him a nigger multiple times like in a clearly angry tone is also far worse then the few times idra has half-heartedly called someone a faggot

im sure Orb will get many opportunitys to cast, hell Alex saids in his thread after going for like 10 paragraphs saying how terrible the word is that we should all forgive him, i dunno what hell cast next maybe NASL will fly him over for the grand finals or some other event will give him a ring but well see him cast again this isnt close to a fatal wound he got shot in the shoulder
fujins
Profile Joined April 2011
Romania23 Posts
March 09 2012 06:36 GMT
#453
so what everybody makes mistakes what u do after counts and if the community can get over it and say it is no big deal so should eg
-Popsycle-
Profile Joined January 2012
34 Posts
March 09 2012 06:37 GMT
#454
He called some one a nigger before joining EG? theres no point in kicking him from casting for that team if it was before
recklessfire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States373 Posts
March 09 2012 06:37 GMT
#455
hey man, life throws you lemons, you gota keep your head up and as long as you have an honest effort in trying to do some legit casting then opportunities will come to you. You learned a life lesson from all this so its not all bad. You'll get other opportunities man, you got this!!!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 09 2012 06:39 GMT
#456
On March 09 2012 15:36 fujins wrote:
so what everybody makes mistakes what u do after counts and if the community can get over it and say it is no big deal so should eg

its funny you say that here since what he did after was lie and try to hide it
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
March 09 2012 06:39 GMT
#457
The fact that orb is man enough to write this vindicates him from any negative thought I might have had .

Shit happens Orb , what doesn't kill you makes you stronger man !
Chessz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States644 Posts
March 09 2012 06:40 GMT
#458
I think it's unfortunate that a career opportunity for orb turned out to be so fleeting, but simultaneously I think it's a positive step for gaming cultures in general for this to have been such a widely discussed (if not divisive) issue.

However -- if this kind of thing was posted INITIALLY, I'm not sure orb would've seen such consequences especially because what drew even more attention primarily was that it was an obvious lie/coverup, which then led to a whole bunch of other shit and discussion that sort of spiraled out of control and drew more and more attention to itself. Perhaps the racial issues brought up and their treatment is representative of an evolving and dynamic gaming audience participating in the scene and I think during a time of growth that can only be a good thing.

But it's kind of like Clinton and Lewinsky. It's the lying about it that really angers people. The real issue wasn't that Bill was getting blowjobs in the office or is unfaithful to his wife or whatever, I mean some people cared, but Congress eventually tried him for perjury.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
March 09 2012 06:40 GMT
#459
Cant say that I am "raging" against you at all orb. After all, Idra and Destiny use profane language all the time. Do I think they are racist? No. I hope all works out well for you.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 09 2012 06:40 GMT
#460
On March 09 2012 15:36 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 15:33 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:24 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:23 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:13 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:07 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:53 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 09 2012 14:52 PauseBreak wrote:
[quote]

I'm not upset or anything. So don't take my posts the wrong way.

Idra calling people "faggots" is extremely offensive. If Alex was gay I garentee that Idra would get the boot fast than you can spell applesauce.

he already addressed idra. go read the other thread.


A mild scolding and firing someone is hardly the same thing.

captain obvious? alex doesnt consider idra/orb's conduct to be the same, so he doesn't treat them the same.


Why is using the word nigger so much worse than faggot? They're both offensive.

i agree.


Then perhaps Idra deserves to be fired from EG too? I don't want that to happen personally, I'm just pointing out the inconsistency.

that horse has already been beatern and adressed multiple times feel free to do a little digging


Not really. Some people are saying this is worse because of Orb's lying but apparently Alex said the use of the word 'nigger' was enough to get him fired regardless, so really it seems that using the word "nigger" is enough to get someone fired while using the word "faggot" isn't, which to me seems inconsistent.

Anyway, I hope the reddit lynch mob can calm down after this apology and Orb gets a chance to cast again later.

i guess you live under a rock or something the vast majority of people consider the word nigger to be the most offense word in existance thats just fact

also going at some random person on the internet and calling him a nigger multiple times like in a clearly angry tone is also far worse then the few times idra has half-heartedly called someone a faggot

im sure Orb will get many opportunitys to cast, hell Alex saids in his thread after going for like 10 paragraphs saying how terrible the word is that we should all forgive him, i dunno what hell cast next maybe NASL will fly him over for the grand finals or some other event will give him a ring but well see him cast again this isnt close to a fatal wound he got shot in the shoulder


That's just your opinion. To a lot of people faggot is just as offensive. Gay people have suffered a huge amount of discrimination. Just because you think it's OK to use that word doesn't make it so.
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