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Alex is verbose, and you owe it to yourself (and the rest of us) to read the statement in its entirety. Remember, when making comments/claims to provide proper evidence, facts etc. Arguments based on incorrect assumptions, facts and straw men, will be dealt with swiftly. If in doubt, PM a mod or ask IRC. Do NOT spread misinformation, when in doubt, check your sources. In short, be smart. Alex comments on Idra: Orbs Statement: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319038 Personal attacks against other posters in this thread will be met with a ban -- 14:20 KST | ||
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
On March 09 2012 14:33 legaton wrote: Another scalp for Reddit, and TL helped them a lot this time around. Well, at least, we can all feel very self-righteous because we fought racism and racism is bad. Thats cute, another person that doesn't understand a thing. This has to do with professionalism. Nothing to do with racism. | ||
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On March 09 2012 14:30 Megabuster123 wrote: Yeah, I don't understand how a word can be inherently racist.... The word has been used as a racial slur for centuries, was created as a racial slur and has no other accepted meaning. Thus it's inherently racist. Not very difficult to understand. | ||
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Alvi3191
United States1 Post
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viticuss
United States37 Posts
On March 09 2012 14:31 Protosnake wrote: Being hurtful or being friendly isnt important. The point when people bring the "context" is about if it was meant to be racist. In BOTH point, it was not. I disagree. I would say the qualifier for it being offensive/bad is when it used in a negatively. Nigga signifies respect and brotherhood. N---r is, as Alex put it, the epitome of hate and injustice. | ||
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Yazilliclick
13 Posts
I also don't like this attitude the community seems to have that raging and name calling should be acceptable because the game can be frustrating. That's a poor attitude. I'm sorry but mature people don't act this way. I can understand a little bit of bad manners at the end maybe but this type of naming calling? Sorry but no. You've got issues controlling your emotions if you're doing stuff like that or a general lack of maturity and life experience. | ||
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Ero-Sennin
United States756 Posts
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fourColo
United States363 Posts
On March 09 2012 14:33 LittleAtari wrote: People need to stop digging out every important person's use of racial slurs, for both being against and for this action. The point is that the community is going to learn from this. Teams and organizations are going to follow and a standard is going to be set. You trying to destroy every other person's reputation isn't going to make things better for any side of this conflict. Why do they need to stop? What if people just stopped using racial slurs? | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On March 09 2012 14:34 Silvertine wrote: The word has been used as a racial slur for centuries, was created as a racial slur and has no other accepted meaning. Thus it's inherently racist. Not very difficult to understand. Pretty hard for it to acquire any other accepted meanings since whenever someone uses it generically it's like they started worshiping Hitler. | ||
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Protosnake
France295 Posts
On March 09 2012 14:34 Silvertine wrote: The word has been used as a racial slur for centuries, was created as a racial slur and has no other accepted meaning. Thus it's inherently racist. Not very difficult to understand. No. The word was created to depict the color black. | ||
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StickTogether
7 Posts
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On March 09 2012 14:31 oBlade wrote: I was referring to Silvertine's post, not Destiny. And it's exactly what I predicted combined with an assortment of other hilariously stupid arguments. Thank you for proving my point. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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iloveAthene
186 Posts
On March 09 2012 14:35 Protosnake wrote: No. The word was created to depict the color black. simply not true | ||
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blizzind
United States642 Posts
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kineticSYN
United States909 Posts
then i remembered they have idra on their team, who seems to have absolutely no issue speaking his mind, whether it's "offensive" or not lol'd, hypocrisy at its finest | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On March 09 2012 14:30 Ansinjunger wrote: Sorry, but you're not the first person to Godwin this thread :p. I dunno about anyone else, but when I see lines like "complain to sponsors," or my personal favorite, "lost all respect," it's beginning to conjure the image of Ignatius J. Reilly saying, "Mother, contact our attorneys!" As others have said, all of this complaining to sponsors generally puts us in a bad light. Maybe Orb deserved that bad light, but fearing to lose sponsors probably forced EG's hand, aside from his deception and the past incident itself. Do gamers really want to spread the image of kids fighting in the backseat, crying to parents about their siblings? I'm not sure why you used it, but you deserve props for a very cool reference =) | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On March 09 2012 14:36 kineticSYN wrote: i read that entire wall of text, and was genuinely moved and felt like clapping then i remembered they have idra on their team, who seems to have absolutely no issue speaking his mind, whether it's "offensive" or not lol'd, hypocrisy at its finest Lol do you see the mod note on the top of the thread? Alex address' IdrA's behavior there. | ||
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BreakfastTea
United States184 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44257 Posts
On March 09 2012 14:30 NotAPro wrote: It was a PR move, EG doesn't want to be considered racist. Your opinion on how offensive the word is means nothing(personally most black people I know don't have much of a problem with it). It's offensive to enough people(mostly white) that keeping him on was no longer worth it. It consistently pisses me off that people think that the managers and other people related to EG have no morals or personalities and only make decisions "as PR moves". Sponsors may not take kindly to Orb's past behavior either, but Alex made very strong arguments outlining his intentions as to why Orb should be removed, and neither you nor anyone else has the right to dismiss them for no reason and basically say "The reasons you gave... they aren't *really* your reasons  ". People may not think that the use of such slurs are as big a deal as Alex does, and so by all means, recruit Orb onto your own team. But to say that Alex's explanation was just a cover so that his team doesn't look bad... that's completely unwarranted. | ||
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