EPTOrb Dismissed from Evil Geniuses Broadcasts - Page 25
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Alex is verbose, and you owe it to yourself (and the rest of us) to read the statement in its entirety. Remember, when making comments/claims to provide proper evidence, facts etc. Arguments based on incorrect assumptions, facts and straw men, will be dealt with swiftly. If in doubt, PM a mod or ask IRC. Do NOT spread misinformation, when in doubt, check your sources. In short, be smart. Alex comments on Idra: Orbs Statement: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319038 Personal attacks against other posters in this thread will be met with a ban -- 14:20 KST | ||
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IcculusLizard
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:24 Sprouter wrote: This community is full of hypocrites. I hope you are all happy ruining a guy's dream for something really silly. i wouldn't mind at all given that this person calls someone a nigger for cannon rushing him. you can't dismiss heat-of-the-moment stuff as not part of who you are, because it is indeed a part. do we let off people who beat their wives and abuse their children because they "momentarily forgot themselves"? more often than not that violence is a part of who they are. this is not about overbearing PCness, this is about basic human dignity. sure, you no-namers who nobody in the community really cares about can verbally abuse people on ladder with no consequences because nobody cares what the fuck you do on ladder. but guys like orb, who are contracted to an organization for a specific purpose, need to have certain standards of behaviour at all times when they are in the presence of the community. ladder counts as he was using his proper account. it's simply not acceptable. sure, nobody will care if you call people niggers with your friends in your own time in your silly little gatherings. it doesn't mean people won't care if a public figure does it so openly like orb did. | ||
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adrenaLinG
Canada676 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:28 SeventhPride wrote: Coming from Singapore, I have been living in a society where people live peacefully together no matter what race you are and we are very tolerant of each other and we can be jailed for saying anything racially offensive. I was shocked when I found out about racism about 10 years ago when I visited the states where people called me a chink and talk about my eyes. So I am really happy that us as a starcraft community is taking steps to ensure racism is not gonna happen here. Good job sir! Though I must say orb really sounds sorry and he really does sound like he doesn't mean it You can still get arrested in Singapore for acts of homosexuality, so really it is not as tolerant as all you make it out to be. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:31 casualman wrote: Speaking of profanity, when does idra get the boot? When he stops being popular and valuable to EG. You're gonna have to deal with it. | ||
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ZerguufOu
United States107 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:31 b0oyah wrote: Man to me this is so messed up. The guy calls someone a nigger on his own free time, privatly and gets fired. Idra calls someone a faggot in a tournament and nothing happens ?! Hypocrisy no its called BUSINESS.. you dont fire your #1 money maker | ||
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pugowar
United States142 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:30 Jonas  wrote:How is Orb's rage any different from Idra's Rage? Because he added the word "nigger" to his list of profanities? Give me a break While watching that he drops numerous F Bombs, says something is "g--" and peopel are acting re----- all in the first ten minutes. This double standard is ridiculous. | ||
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TheSwamp
United States1497 Posts
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oBlade
United States6646 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:31 matiK23 wrote: So then without the protection of your computer monitor, tomorrow, go say nigger in the real world, instead of your delusional, sheltered world. Set an example, start a revolution. I don't understand your point. Are you surprised that the real world is more conservative than the free internet, or do you think nobody ever says "nigger" outside of the internet - in which case we'd have a hard time explaining why the word exists if nobody uses it. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:31 matiK23 wrote: So then without the protection of your computer monitor, tomorrow, go say nigger in the real world, instead of your delusional, sheltered world. Set an example, start a revolution. If you decided to go this route, also make sure you are in a place where you get good cell phone reception and can speed dial the police. Just in case you get the response we are all expecting that you will get. | ||
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:33 adrenaLinG wrote: You can still get arrested in Singapore for acts of homosexuality, so really it is not as tolerant as all you make it out to be. racial tolerance. homosexuality has nothing to do with the discussion. | ||
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Diogenes
United States132 Posts
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Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
"@beesinyoface yes, i do. every time it happens, he hears from me. have you noticed it happening recently? if you have, let me know." i doubt idra gives whiny excuses. he admits he is foul mouthed. | ||
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JackDT
724 Posts
To everyone else: Destiny is not employed by EG. | ||
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mrGRAPE
Singapore293 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:32 LittleAtari wrote: Honestly, had Orb not denied it, came out and apologized as soon as this started getting heat, without anyone asking him to, the situation may have ended differently. Like if he had come out and said, "Hey, I did this a while back and it was dumb and childish. It was when I wasn't as big of a deal in the SC2 community. I think I need to better represent SC2 and my employer EG. I hope you guys can give me a second chance. I grew up and around people who didn't see these slurs as a big deal. I actually have a great amount of respect for the Black and African community. (Insert personal anecdote involving Black and/or African). Once again, I am truly sorry for my childish behavior. You wont see it again from me." instead of this: EG: Did you do it? Orb: No, my friends on my account did it! EG: If we find out otherwise, there will be consequences. Orb: .... You don't lie to your employer, especially with stuff like that. this pretty much. | ||
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Kharnage
Australia920 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:19 pugowar wrote: Why - this is because of what happened in the past before he was an employee, on his own time... they should be held to the same standard. They shouldn't get a free pass on the past - Orb certainly didn't. recently the Australian labour party in Queensland put forward a candidate who wrote for a white supremacist magazine and was part of several such groups before joining the labour party. When it was discovered that he had previously been affiliated with these groups he was immediately let go and the labour party immediately tried to distance themselves from him and his views. Here it is people. What you do in a public space in your own time matters. If I employed someone and found out that they were a rapist they would no longer work for me. Simple as that. If I employed someone and out of work hours I overheard them being overtly racist I would be seriously considering letting them go, and if I saw them beating their wife not only would I do my damnedest to stop them but they would be fired on the spot. This is how life works. Orb didn't just do this shit on ladder, he did it while streaming. How fucking stupid do you have to be? When you are publicly affiliated with a company you have to keep your public image clean. | ||
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TheBJ
Bulgaria906 Posts
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Bkennedy
United States266 Posts
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Lotar
132 Posts
On March 09 2012 13:28 Mafs wrote: "Nigger" [is] just an insult that is meant to represent someone who is a obnoxious asshole who thinks he isn't. Actually, that would be closer to the modern definition of a "faggot" as per the South Park episode. A "nigger" is an ignorant, self-destructive person who's forsaken the use of logic. See Nigga moment. Ironically, orb is now paying for his own nigga moment. | ||
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