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Snoodles
Profile Joined March 2012
401 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 21:45:22
March 18 2012 21:40 GMT
#81
Here's what I got out of the TvP, correct me if I'm wrong:

10-depot
12-Rax
13 Gas
Command Center in natural
Bunker
2 rax, 2 refineries
Tech Lab on one rax, Concussive Shell
Factory
After Concussive Get Stim and a third refinery
Starport
4th Gas
2 Tech Labs on Barracks
Engineering Bay, start an upgrade
2 more barraks
2nd Engineering Bay, other upgrade
Ghost Academy
Armory
If you scout Robo, make vikings after your 4th medivac, if not ???
Make some ghosts

Take map control, get a third.

ntssauce
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany750 Posts
March 19 2012 13:46 GMT
#82
yeeey new videos :D
MMA and Alive you are the best! | Goodbye ST_Sound ~
sHt_
Profile Joined January 2011
France239 Posts
March 19 2012 14:18 GMT
#83
Pretty much it snoodles, except you don't take any gas at first ( supply, rax, expo ).
Also, i believe he only take his 3rd and 4th gas at the time he launch the +1 infantry upgrade. ( which would be fact, starport with the swap on the reactor, ebay +1 then the 2 gas of the natural)
In Blizzard's imaginary world, players sit at home devising plans to maximize the usage of destructible rocks (c) Ver
madsweepslol
Profile Joined February 2010
161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 05:57:45
March 20 2012 05:57 GMT
#84
I've only watched the mechanics and first TvP videos so far, but they were awesome! I like that you slowed down and demonstrated only clean apm, it definitely makes it easier for a bronze leaguer like myself to follow what you're doing and why. And commentating the videos after you recorded them definitely made for better analysis and explanations of your build orders and reactions than other similar tutorials (not ripping on those by any means, but this in particular simply made your's better :p)

I'm trying to think of constructive criticism, but honestly I can't think of anything I would criticize. I'll finish the rest of the videos and report back.

Thanks! And please do keep making these!
Elbows
Profile Joined October 2011
20 Posts
March 20 2012 15:41 GMT
#85
Max, I watched your TvT & TvZ videos and thought they were really well done. You present the material in a very clear and purposeful fashion and I think that's a big plus when it comes to material that is meant to educate.

I'm a gold league Terran (pretty awful) and because my main focus is on my mechanics I have been opening 1 Rax expand in TvT for the last few weeks. Generally, if I make it out of the early game I win, however I would say that the MU, at least at my level, involves a lot of early pressure and one base play. It's not uncommon to see 1/1/1 all-in, which you dealt with in your video and which I usually can handle by just pulling SCVs (still ahead), and cloak banshee opening which I think most Terrans have a lot of practice handling and I can generally scout and deal with pretty well.

The thing I don't like about 1 Rax expand is that it's pretty obvious what you're doing due to lack of gas. Barring some 5 Rax all-in or whatever, it's generally fairly easy to scout the expansion and I think that most people know when they see the 1 Rax FE that they can proceed with whatever early pressure they have planned knowing they're pretty safe. I tried your Reaper expand yesterday and really like it. You still get a pretty fast expansion with really early combat sheild, and the initial scout can't really tell what you're doing so easily as you're taking your gas. I'm going to use it for the foreseeable future.

My question is, how do you respond to an opponent who opens with their own Reaper pressure (let's say they do the same build) or that hellion/marine elevator play that everyone's so fond of these days? If I scout it should I keep the reapers in my base for defense?

spangled
Profile Joined March 2012
United States24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 01:25:54
March 30 2012 20:14 GMT
#86
Thanks to Max my APM has nearly doubled, not sure if its cause I'm building reactors now and building two of everything or because Max's builds are so awesome!

Max usually streams Tues. and Thurs. 6-10pm PST.

Don't worry be happy!
I am the Master of My Fate: I am the Captain of My Soul. William Ernest Henley
spangled
Profile Joined March 2012
United States24 Posts
April 04 2012 21:26 GMT
#87
Theme song from Max's stream

Do- do, do- do

Dooo Doooo

Life is like a hurricane

Here in Max's room

Marines, Marauders , and Hellions.

It's a Max- blur

He might solve a mystery or rewrite history

Max Tales (woo woooh)

Every Tues & Thurs, Max is out there making.

Max Tales (woo wooh)

Tales of daring do bad and good.

Max Tales (wooo wooh)

D-D-D-Danger!

Watch behind you.

There's a stalker out to find you.

What to do? Just tune into some Max Tales (wooo woooh)

Every Tues & Thurs, Max is out there making.

Max Tales (woo wooh)

Tales of daring do bad and good.

Max Tales (woo wooh)

Not pony tales, or cotton tales, no

Max Tales (woo wooh)
I am the Master of My Fate: I am the Captain of My Soul. William Ernest Henley
Rick Deckard
Profile Joined October 2010
90 Posts
May 04 2012 21:56 GMT
#88
Thank you very much for these videos Max. They are excellent, great format and very informative.

I've just been focusing on TvZ. In your videos you say that if the zerg fast expands then terran should be able to fast expand as well, using the standard fast hellion opening. This is exactly the kind of info I've been after.

So I just went straight into trying to fast expand vs zerg on the ladder using your build as a rough guide. I've fast expanded against zerg about half a dozen times and I've had the most hilarious games.

I'm high gold, so pretty bad, and I've lost my hellions, failed to scout incoming attacks with them, and been forced to lift off and evacuate my natural more often than not. Yet somehow once I've stabilized and start to apply counter pressure with hellion bio medivac the zergs just can't handle the constant pressure and drop harass. Slowly but surely they fall apart.

It really is a great feeling to be playing aggressively rather than turtling up and defending until 200/200. Thanks a lot for the fun times.
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