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Marinesgg
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2 Posts
February 29 2012 06:51 GMT
#781
I am very pleased with Playhem's decision to remove Katu as a caster. Every day I check the Playhem to see if Katu is casting and if he is, I turn off the steam and watch someone else. He has a track record of being big headed in my opinion and his past comments about American's being socialists, his homophobia, biggotry and now insulting professional sc2 players on stream pretty much seals the deal for me. I watched the steam live and when he basically told everyone to F** off if they don't like him, I knew he has absolutely no place in the sc2 community. Kudos to Playhem for stepping up and taking care of a problem that only would have gotten worse in the future.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
February 29 2012 07:11 GMT
#782
If players don't want to be ridiculed for cheating, maybe they shouldn't cheat in the first place. I don't really know Katu's history, but imo a player deserves to be ridiculed for cheating if he has cheated, especially if it was swept under the rug like in Dragon's case to where nobody actually knows what happened.
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Scalepad
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden366 Posts
February 29 2012 07:29 GMT
#783
On February 29 2012 15:51 Marinesgg wrote:
I am very pleased with Playhem's decision to remove Katu as a caster. Every day I check the Playhem to see if Katu is casting and if he is, I turn off the steam and watch someone else. He has a track record of being big headed in my opinion and his past comments about American's being socialists, his homophobia, biggotry and now insulting professional sc2 players on stream pretty much seals the deal for me. I watched the steam live and when he basically told everyone to F** off if they don't like him, I knew he has absolutely no place in the sc2 community. Kudos to Playhem for stepping up and taking care of a problem that only would have gotten worse in the future.

I'm sorry, but why would you be offended by this?
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
February 29 2012 07:31 GMT
#784
On February 29 2012 16:29 Scalepad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 15:51 Marinesgg wrote:
I am very pleased with Playhem's decision to remove Katu as a caster. Every day I check the Playhem to see if Katu is casting and if he is, I turn off the steam and watch someone else. He has a track record of being big headed in my opinion and his past comments about American's being socialists, his homophobia, biggotry and now insulting professional sc2 players on stream pretty much seals the deal for me. I watched the steam live and when he basically told everyone to F** off if they don't like him, I knew he has absolutely no place in the sc2 community. Kudos to Playhem for stepping up and taking care of a problem that only would have gotten worse in the future.

I'm sorry, but why would you be offended by this?

Because his unprofessional existence as a caster negatively impact the SC2 scene, the players, the casters, and the events?
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Silvertine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States509 Posts
February 29 2012 07:33 GMT
#785
He means that it's not offensive to be called a socialist because it isn't a bad thing. It is offensive in the sense that it's not true though.
Grohg
Profile Joined March 2011
United States243 Posts
February 29 2012 07:46 GMT
#786
I don't understand why claiming that you are simply "trolling" is any more acceptable than blatantly bashing someone. It's like walking up to someone and telling them that the have an ugly-ass face and then saying "just kidding." Go try that and see the responses you get. I'm glad Bonk took the higher road and tried to play it down the situation tactfully but Katu dug his own grave. I don't care if you're thinking it...sometimes it's better to just keep your mouth shut. In a casting position, negative bias shouldn't even enter the discussion. It's ok to point out errors and weaknesses in someone's play or to praise someone highly for ingenuity and mechanics; however, personal attacks and ridicule are pointless by nature and add nothing to the cast. If it's your job or you have an elevated role in a hobby, you shouldn't abuse that role and spew baneful garbage.
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Scalepad
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden366 Posts
February 29 2012 07:50 GMT
#787
On February 29 2012 16:31 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 16:29 Scalepad wrote:
On February 29 2012 15:51 Marinesgg wrote:
I am very pleased with Playhem's decision to remove Katu as a caster. Every day I check the Playhem to see if Katu is casting and if he is, I turn off the steam and watch someone else. He has a track record of being big headed in my opinion and his past comments about American's being socialists, his homophobia, biggotry and now insulting professional sc2 players on stream pretty much seals the deal for me. I watched the steam live and when he basically told everyone to F** off if they don't like him, I knew he has absolutely no place in the sc2 community. Kudos to Playhem for stepping up and taking care of a problem that only would have gotten worse in the future.

I'm sorry, but why would you be offended by this?

Because his unprofessional existence as a caster negatively impact the SC2 scene, the players, the casters, and the events?

Look at the bolded part. I can't see why ANYONE would be offended by someone calling Americans socialists. Or are all Americans really butthurt about socialism?



On February 29 2012 16:33 Silvertine wrote:
He means that it's not offensive to be called a socialist because it isn't a bad thing. It is offensive in the sense that it's not true though.

It's not offensive. Unless you're a politician for some right-wing party or something I suppose. Calling someone a communist/socialist/whatever is quite obviously a joke and shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone, really.

Also, I should add that I hadn't even heard of Katu before this thread, so I'm not defending him in any way. I've just read through the thread here and there, and some people make ridiculous statements about all this. Honestly though, I wasn't offended by what little I heard in the vod, but seeing as how he apparently went some on some anti-gay (?) rant, he's obviously not made for casting professional Starcraft.

ps. I've been up all night and haven't slept in a while so maybe I'm just misinterpreting your comments, in that case, disregard everything I wrote.
KuKri
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany168 Posts
February 29 2012 08:02 GMT
#788
What's all this about? Kaku overdid it, but he even excused afterwards, so I don't see why he should be punished here. Sounded to me like he honestly regretted having said that.
DaemonX
Profile Joined September 2010
545 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 08:05:31
February 29 2012 08:03 GMT
#789
Wow so let me get this straight:
1) his co - caster politely told him to knock it off and when he refused, distanced himself from the comments live during the stream, balls.
2) Playhem offer an unconditional apology and a very nice monetary offer to Dragon - probably a little more than he deserves since Dragon is a known previous cheater and trolling at his expense is par for the course (and he would never get a second chance at all on TL).
3) The offending caster is then unceremoniously dropped from the company

Playhem cannot concievably do more. As someone said earlier, Professonalism with a capital P.

Bonk deserves to be commended for his very gutsy and appropriate actions while live on the stream. And OP in this should post an apology edit at the TOP of this thread for having caught Bonk up in the drama at the start.
Alokiya
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States648 Posts
February 29 2012 08:10 GMT
#790
On February 29 2012 16:29 Scalepad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 15:51 Marinesgg wrote:
I am very pleased with Playhem's decision to remove Katu as a caster. Every day I check the Playhem to see if Katu is casting and if he is, I turn off the steam and watch someone else. He has a track record of being big headed in my opinion and his past comments about American's being socialists, his homophobia, biggotry and now insulting professional sc2 players on stream pretty much seals the deal for me. I watched the steam live and when he basically told everyone to F** off if they don't like him, I knew he has absolutely no place in the sc2 community. Kudos to Playhem for stepping up and taking care of a problem that only would have gotten worse in the future.

I'm sorry, but why would you be offended by this?



It has absolutely no place in a SC2 stream really, mixing politics with entertainment is distasteful to a lot of people, and serves no real purpose.
C'mon my guppies, swim up my stream! - Day[9]
CarelessPride
Profile Joined March 2011
United States146 Posts
February 29 2012 08:27 GMT
#791
lol well what he said WAS true o.o altho he was blunt. would you guys react the same way to combat ex? Im a fan of dragon and I love his stream but this is just fan boys crying over the truth. I know its blunt and the truth hurts but you cant punish him for being honest O.O. You can say you dont like his cast and its unproffessional but he hasn't done anything thats worth punishment =.= its the same shit with naniwa/ nestea situation. our reaction is actually what is hurtting esports because forced and fake polite manners with our pussy clenched dont bring entertainment.
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 08:32:18
February 29 2012 08:30 GMT
#792
On February 29 2012 16:29 Scalepad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 15:51 Marinesgg wrote:
I am very pleased with Playhem's decision to remove Katu as a caster. Every day I check the Playhem to see if Katu is casting and if he is, I turn off the steam and watch someone else. He has a track record of being big headed in my opinion and his past comments about American's being socialists, his homophobia, biggotry and now insulting professional sc2 players on stream pretty much seals the deal for me. I watched the steam live and when he basically told everyone to F** off if they don't like him, I knew he has absolutely no place in the sc2 community. Kudos to Playhem for stepping up and taking care of a problem that only would have gotten worse in the future.

I'm sorry, but why would you be offended by this?


AFAIK, Americans really hate socialism/communism. It goes against there capitalistic ways, or so they say.
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Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
February 29 2012 08:32 GMT
#793
Katu out of playhem tv? He was my favorite playhem caster. I'm so damn sad right now; this is harsh T_T
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
February 29 2012 08:36 GMT
#794
On February 29 2012 17:02 KuKri wrote:
What's all this about? Kaku overdid it, but he even excused afterwards, so I don't see why he should be punished here. Sounded to me like he honestly regretted having said that.

He regretted because of the backlash. If people were angry but didn't raise complaints, he wouldn't be sorry. He's not sorry for slander, hes sorry that hes facing the consequences.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 29 2012 08:37 GMT
#795
Glad he's out. I went to check out the commentary and am really happy a dumbass like that wont be representing a good organization like playhem anymore.
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Monk06
Profile Joined February 2012
France4 Posts
February 29 2012 08:38 GMT
#796
I watched the video of this.
And well, yeah the way Katu said that it was clearly trolling and he was not trying to get offensive. But he broke 2 golden rules as a caster. He didn't state the truth and if he thought it was the truth, he should have do more investigation as a commentator and that's part of his work. Saying dragon got fired from slayers because of him cheating is ridiculous and saying dragon is cheating right now is even more ridiculous even if it's a troll comment. Wich leeds us to golden rule number 2 : DO NOT FEED THE TROLL. EVER. Even more as a commentator because you are responsable of the chat handling and how the event is being held.

So yeah, no BIG deal going on and playhem already did more than enough. But that was unprofessionnal and the issue needed to get brought in the light.
evolute
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada209 Posts
February 29 2012 08:40 GMT
#797
On February 29 2012 17:37 FinestHour wrote:
Glad he's out. I went to check out the commentary and am really happy a dumbass like that wont be representing a good organization like playhem anymore.


I don't get it. Katu has been a regular commentator for months. I've been a regular viewer watching him and other co-casters stream games for a very long time. If you only just now know about Katu and his casting, you were not watching or involved in Playhem to begin with.

Please people, put down the pitchforks and stop the blantant fanboyism.

Katu definitely wasn't in the right to troll up a storm, but I don't think anyone thought that it would turn into a witch hunt overnight. For gods sake, that poll has a 'death penalty' option, people are not taking the entire thing seriously.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
February 29 2012 08:42 GMT
#798
If someone had made jokes about someone like TT1's cheating past nobody would have batted an eyelid. Hell I see people do it every time he posts on TL. Why are are Korean progamers so sacrosant? This guy did cheat in the past and while he has been forgiven and we shouldn't dwell on it I don't see the harm in the odd joke or reference to it.

Oh and the line about Americans being socialists was obviously a joke- I can't believe people are taking that seriously. Are casters not allowed to make jokes now?
Spieltor
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
327 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 08:58:52
February 29 2012 08:45 GMT
#799
On February 29 2012 13:27 Turbovolver wrote:
The real offensive thing was how funny Katu clearly thought he was with his "trolling".

I don't care about calling him greedy or a screen-cheater, the sarcasm about factories in TvZ where he thought he was so smart was just rofl though. What a douche.


I hope you are, in fact, trolling. anyone who's intelligent could immediately grasp the dadaism and lunacy of Katu's statememnt about making a factory. Factories are TECH. you must create them. So he's making fun of himself and the situation by saying "he's doing what he's supposed to, wtf is that about?".

god I hope you're trolling, or I fear for humanity.

On February 29 2012 16:33 Silvertine wrote:
He means that it's not offensive to be called a socialist because it isn't a bad thing. It is offensive in the sense that it's not true though.


that sounds like premium grade butthurt. If someone lied and said good things about me that weren't true, I wouldn't be offended whatsoever. I might correct them, but offense? No.


On February 29 2012 17:10 Alokiya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 16:29 Scalepad wrote:
On February 29 2012 15:51 Marinesgg wrote:
I am very pleased with Playhem's decision to remove Katu as a caster. Every day I check the Playhem to see if Katu is casting and if he is, I turn off the steam and watch someone else. He has a track record of being big headed in my opinion and his past comments about American's being socialists, his homophobia, biggotry and now insulting professional sc2 players on stream pretty much seals the deal for me. I watched the steam live and when he basically told everyone to F** off if they don't like him, I knew he has absolutely no place in the sc2 community. Kudos to Playhem for stepping up and taking care of a problem that only would have gotten worse in the future.

I'm sorry, but why would you be offended by this?



It has absolutely no place in a SC2 stream really, mixing politics with entertainment is distasteful to a lot of people, and serves no real purpose.



I find more humor when people mix politics with entertainment. maybe Im just lucky enough to have such a metropolitan view that I am not hunkered down political bias and small mindedness so that I can in fact find fun to be poked at by speaking jokingly of politics and people's stances.

Anyone who can't enjoy joking about politics or what people's political views might be, must assuredly have a small world view themselves. Jokes are most enjoyed by those who's mind has expanded to fully and comfortably encompass all the ideals as being not beyond their ability to comprehend and accept as obvious and simple.

its like how some people are deeply offended by jokes on tv if they've lived in the woods for 50 years and their understanding never expanded.

barak obama would like a word with you. Also, theres tons of good points or ideas in communism or socialism just as there is in capitalism.

the opposite of communism is not democracy guys, but capitalism. commun and capital are spectrum ends, just like democro and totalitar or depotism.

it really irks me that people are so ignorant about these systems that they transpose them all the time to make some politically agenda-ed point.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
February 29 2012 09:00 GMT
#800
Well, I haven't seen too much of Katu's casting, but what I had seen, I enjoyed, and now this? I've got no beef with playhem for dropping him, because that's the appropriate response. I hope this doesn't stigmatize him for the future, as being dropped from a good position like this is generally a large enough setback in your career in the first place.

Either way, Playhem dealt with this perfectly, and I feel bad that Katu put them in this place in the first place.
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