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quaffle
Profile Joined December 2010
United States249 Posts
February 23 2012 12:23 GMT
#361
Oh dear... sh*t is getting serious. =P Though, TL has always been serious. Fun to know the "insides" of TL's business model, thank you for the explanation (even though I wasnt even aware of the situation. )

@MLG You guys are still awesome, no worries.
Your success is only measured by the strength of your competitors.
ShotgunMike
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden241 Posts
February 23 2012 12:23 GMT
#362
Well made post and clearly the right thing to do! I expect every link I hit on the calendar to open a stream for me to watch right away. I would be upset if I landed on some "please enter your credit card details" page.

Further, by the same standards MLG use in order to motivate PPV and the longitivity of e-sports, if someone wants to be all premium and no free stuff they should also pay the premium prize for the services they use. Nothing weird going on here.
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Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
February 23 2012 12:26 GMT
#363
Definitely the correct decision. Good job not falling for their "support us or esports dies" crap.
Gumbotwins
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands256 Posts
February 23 2012 12:27 GMT
#364
I totally stand behind TL here, MLG is surely going into the wrong direction.
I myself a true MLG fan wont be watching this weekend not paying 20 bucks for it, even if i wanted to i cant pay, dont have a paypal or creditcard ( pretty much like the rest of europe ).
So i guess mlg is losing massive amounts of viewers specially from europe.

my 2 cents
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MostDifferent
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway124 Posts
February 23 2012 12:28 GMT
#365
I wonder if MLG realizes how important TL is, I bet they will buy a spot next time
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
February 23 2012 12:29 GMT
#366
Totally reasonable, I get it.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 23 2012 12:31 GMT
#367
I wondered why there wasn't any Calendar entry and supposed it was something like that.

Anyway, I would have understood both decisions (calendar it or not). For people who don't get why they refused to calendar it, it's because basically if they link it in the calendar, they link directly to a "CLICK HERE TO BUY" page. So it's advertisement. A very understandable/rational decision, whether you agree or not.
Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
February 23 2012 12:31 GMT
#368
Well I guess that those who paid for it, knows when it is anyway.
And the others, they can't watch, so what's the point.
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
February 23 2012 12:32 GMT
#369
Very good decision. You have my full support.
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
megid
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil142 Posts
February 23 2012 12:37 GMT
#370
This discussion about PPV is getting already old...but let's think about some thing.
One of the cool aspects of the internet is the free content, the information share, our generation are really doing it well and proving that this is the better way, the evolution. Restricted content is only a regression, i'm very sad (truth) that people of our generation are committing the same mistakes...
Keep the good work Team Liquid, i'm proud to be a member of this community, you guys are in the right way.
giorgio
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland32 Posts
February 23 2012 12:37 GMT
#371
Haha Sundance and his MLG support e$$$sport and you welcome to support e$sport on TL
sansalvador
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria308 Posts
February 23 2012 12:37 GMT
#372
Decisions like that lead to the great reputation TL has build up over a long time. I like that.
act.hero
Profile Joined April 2011
United States205 Posts
February 23 2012 12:39 GMT
#373
Not like anyone was going to watch anyway. No need to put it on the calendar.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
February 23 2012 12:39 GMT
#374
But by posting this thread when title has "MLG Arena" TL is making it like ad. First time I opened this thread I though TL and MLG had prepared detailed TL calendar use (separating each matches or something) so I clicked this one. MLG still gets its attention even its negative for them and more users for PPV.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 12:43:21
February 23 2012 12:43 GMT
#375
I was actually making an entry for MLG to the calendar when i thought about this the other day. This decision makes sense though and I can get behind that 100%

Im assuming MLG will make their own entry if they decide to pay for it? I did reformat the brackets so they were ready to put in
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
sansalvador
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 12:44:06
February 23 2012 12:43 GMT
#376
On February 23 2012 21:39 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
But by posting this thread when title has "MLG Arena" TL is making it like ad. First time I opened this thread I though TL and MLG had prepared detailed TL calendar use (separating each matches or something) so I clicked this one. MLG still gets its attention even its negative for them and more users for PPV.

If you would have read the statements in this thread you would know that this is exactly what TL stands for. Giving attention to things and events the community cares about.
The community cares about MLG, so TL has no problem with useful information regarding this topic. They don't want to erease the MLG from TL.net, as you could have read for yourself.
Youtakenocandle
Profile Joined February 2012
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 12:46:51
February 23 2012 12:45 GMT
#377
On February 23 2012 21:37 megid wrote:
This discussion about PPV is getting already old...but let's think about some thing.
One of the cool aspects of the internet is the free content, the information share, our generation are really doing it well and proving that this is the better way, the evolution. Restricted content is only a regression, i'm very sad (truth) that people of our generation are committing the same mistakes...
Keep the good work Team Liquid, i'm proud to be a member of this community, you guys are in the right way.


The 'everything has to be free on the internet' has a lot of downsides too. Why do you think google and Facebook offer so many free services, because they are selling -you-. I think this whole shitstorm over MLG wouldn't have happened if the price wasn't so high. If it was like $7.99 then people would have bought it if they wanted to see the tourney (me included).

Why isn't MLG just paying for the ad on TL btw? TL the main SC2 website... meanwhile they have expensive offices in New York and pay 100k for flying people in. The 1-2k tops to have an ad here for this event is too much? Odd bussiness.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
February 23 2012 12:45 GMT
#378
On February 23 2012 21:39 act.hero wrote:
Not like anyone was going to watch anyway. No need to put it on the calendar.

MLG will still get more viewers than a lot of other featured streams so that's not a very good point.
sansalvador
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria308 Posts
February 23 2012 12:46 GMT
#379
On February 23 2012 21:45 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 21:39 act.hero wrote:
Not like anyone was going to watch anyway. No need to put it on the calendar.

MLG will still get more viewers than a lot of other featured streams so that's not a very good point.

So even less need for a calendar entry. ^^
act.hero
Profile Joined April 2011
United States205 Posts
February 23 2012 12:47 GMT
#380
On February 23 2012 21:45 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 21:39 act.hero wrote:
Not like anyone was going to watch anyway. No need to put it on the calendar.

MLG will still get more viewers than a lot of other featured streams so that's not a very good point.

Losing 90% of their stream viewers means more than $20 for each lemming that thinks any match in MLG is going to be worth paying for.
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