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Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
February 14 2012 01:58 GMT
#1261
On February 14 2012 10:01 BluePanther wrote:
PPV... Isn't full content what I was promised when I purchased the Gold Membership?

lol, I feel sorry for all you suckers...no offense. When you start to pay for stuff these money grubbers get it in their head you will pay for anything even if they have already charged you for it. It's the way of the world, and the only way to prevent future fees is to not pay the current fees.
$♥$
PaulieAB
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania44 Posts
February 14 2012 01:58 GMT
#1262
So we won't be able to watch any stream without paying? Bummer.
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
February 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#1263
I guess the Mayans predicted the death of MLG! ;o) PPV is going to bomb, hard. If they're that desperate for cash I don't see them surviving 2012.
Acidosis
Profile Joined April 2011
United States172 Posts
February 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#1264
Good thing Assembly is on that weekend. I always liked MLG free stream and for the sake of my cheap ass wallet, I hope this is just an one-time experiment.
“The will to win is not nearly as important as the will to prepare to win.” -BK
clwzim
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil65 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 02:00:56
February 14 2012 02:00 GMT
#1265
serius ppl pay for gold menbership u still have balls to make they pay more?
lol gl ... not watching anything from mlg again .. and not renewing my membership ...
Translucent25
Profile Joined April 2011
United States68 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 02:01:04
February 14 2012 02:00 GMT
#1266
Ancient 30 year old here that will be purchasing a ticket, and who will also be screaming like a little girl all weekend.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
February 14 2012 02:01 GMT
#1267
Whoa, I see why they're doing it, but I hate that they're doing it. I will be tuning into Assembly, although I wish MLG were still free
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
February 14 2012 02:01 GMT
#1268
It comes down to what else is on that weekend and what competition is. I would rather buy a pizza and watch Assembly or a stream of my favorite player than I would pay $20 to watch two days of play. Sorry MLG, I love you, but I can't get on board with this.
"People need to just settle the fuck down!"- Djwheat <3
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
February 14 2012 02:02 GMT
#1269
I'll probably pay for it.
sa1330
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany43 Posts
February 14 2012 02:03 GMT
#1270
hahhahahahahhahahahahaa yeah no, asus rog will rock this weekend
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 02:05:38
February 14 2012 02:03 GMT
#1271
On February 14 2012 10:36 Mycl wrote:
This is a massive step for both MLG and every other tournament out there. If MLG can sacrifice the low quality stream free-loaders and come out more profitable, more tournaments will adopt this model. This is a huge move and when the event is said and done it may change the entire landscape


NO sir , MLG always was greedy. Other big tournaments never gonna make step like this.
Pay for HD yes , pay for watch no..
They try to get rich by hurting e-sports , they even trick MLG gold members and now they must pay agine to watch it , its stupid and silly.
MLG still have lowest price money from all very big tournaments , and now thye make this.. its greed , nothing more.
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
February 14 2012 02:03 GMT
#1272
I am against this for reasons that were probably already stated in the thread so I won't repeat them.
Crainey
Profile Joined August 2011
Northern Ireland101 Posts
February 14 2012 02:03 GMT
#1273
I honestly can't understand this decision by MLG. They could make as much money if not more money from doing the free stream + ad revenue including the subscription offerings, that I always sign up for. What makes even less sense is that they're releasing the VODs a week later, I'd expect a PPV event to be exclusive to those who pay to see the event, would not expect to see VODs a week later.
With Assembly being on at the same time and the VODs being released a week later I imagine very few Europeans at least will want to pay-to-view, I mean sure one will be on earlier in the day than the other and they'll be a small overlap if any but I don't know how many people will want to watch SC2 all day from 1pm to 4am or something.
Given that this event will certainly see far fewer viewers than the other events, and probably less people paying (subscription for HD on seasons) despite it being $20 compared to less for Gold membership, I can't imagine this will bring in more than the standard format. In the situation that MLG doesn't make more money from this format then all they'll have achieved is encouraging other tournaments to try this and hurt their public image (people may think they're getting greedy and becoming a greedy corporation run by suits).

All this negative stuff aside I guess it's good for us to experiment with new things and see how they turn out. This kind of PPV event will be massive for the Barcraft community and will not doubt see massive turnout!
I wish MLG the best of luck but I thought I should just offer my thoughts and throw it out there!
Gaming is much more than just a hobby.
Nosey
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4 Posts
February 14 2012 02:04 GMT
#1274
On February 14 2012 10:56 Recoil wrote:
Also MLG why did you find it a good idea to spend hundreds of thousands of additional dollars to hold a tournament that people could pay for. I believe you could've held a 16-32 man online only tournament with higher prizes because you don't need to pay for travel and still use the PPV model and charge $5 and I WOULD pay for that. 3 days of the highest level players playing for $5 well worth it plus you save so much on travel expenses.



Yes, MLG, what is the idea behind a LAN event without screaming fans? Maybe they're going for a HSC feel, but that would be such a stretch for MLG. They're style has its place just like HSC's does.

So I agree. Cast replays or even cast as they're played live and sink the extra cash into the players' pockets. There would have to be adjustments with server choice/lag issues, but it must be possible to offer the same quality without so much durn expense.
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
February 14 2012 02:04 GMT
#1275
FAIL.

MLG just got onto my ignore-list, plenty of better tournaments around. Bye bye.
*burp*
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
February 14 2012 02:05 GMT
#1276
If I had the money I might pay for it. Even then it would be a tough deal though. Because 20 bucks gives me a whole month of GSL0 (wasn't GSL only 10 bucks for a whole month before?). However, the Vods will be free, so I'll just watch those later, and tune in to assembly. All I need to do is wait a couple weeks and avoid spoilers? Easily worth the 20 bucks I'd save... If I had the money.



People saying that complaining about a "measly" 20 bucks... I wonder if you ever lived on your own, paid your own bills, and had to balance a tight budget before. 20 bucks in three days? Totally not cheap.
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
discw
Profile Joined April 2010
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 02:06:06
February 14 2012 02:05 GMT
#1277
Always paid for it before, will this time since it'll be a much better competition then any previous MLG.

The predictable pissing and moaning is fun to watch.

The people acting like they know anything about ad revenue money vs ppv are cute.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
February 14 2012 02:06 GMT
#1278
I like Starcraft, I also like MLG.
OH and look I also have 20 bucks with me.
I guess I'll have a nice weekend.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
February 14 2012 02:07 GMT
#1279
I feel its too early. SC2 is a growing market, not a cash cow yet.
I kinda have the impression MLG added some corporate consultants regarding their latest actions. Which is good for the profitability, but not for part of their employers (got cut) and the customers.
casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
February 14 2012 02:07 GMT
#1280
On February 14 2012 11:03 Crainey wrote:
I honestly can't understand this decision by MLG. They could make as much money if not more money from doing the free stream + ad revenue including the subscription offerings, that I always sign up for. What makes even less sense is that they're releasing the VODs a week later, I'd expect a PPV event to be exclusive to those who pay to see the event, would not expect to see VODs a week later.
With Assembly being on at the same time and the VODs being released a week later I imagine very few Europeans at least will want to pay-to-view, I mean sure one will be on earlier in the day than the other and they'll be a small overlap if any but I don't know how many people will want to watch SC2 all day from 1pm to 4am or something.
Given that this event will certainly see far fewer viewers than the other events, and probably less people paying (subscription for HD on seasons) despite it being $20 compared to less for Gold membership, I can't imagine this will bring in more than the standard format. In the situation that MLG doesn't make more money from this format then all they'll have achieved is encouraging other tournaments to try this and hurt their public image (people may think they're getting greedy and becoming a greedy corporation run by suits).

All this negative stuff aside I guess it's good for us to experiment with new things and see how they turn out. This kind of PPV event will be massive for the Barcraft community and will not doubt see massive turnout!
I wish MLG the best of luck but I thought I should just offer my thoughts and throw it out there!

They don't. That's exactly why they're doing this--because living off advertisement revenue isn't enough to sustain MLG or isn't enough to propel them to the vision of the business that they have.
GuMiho <3
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