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SMD
Canada627 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:37 BuddhaMonk wrote: For me I'll probably pay if the following is there: - The best casters (you know who they are) - The best players (that includes Koreans) As many of stated, the players list is awesome... DRG NEstea MVP MC, right there should have you.... | ||
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Abort Retry Fail
2636 Posts
Esports is all about technology and internet and all the comfort it brings, including vods, replays, and yes, free streams. Not buying, and I'm sure many won't too. | ||
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slicknav
1409 Posts
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mikkmagro
Malta1513 Posts
For eSports to survive, it must have a sustainable business model, and covering all expenses from sponsors is not sustainable in the long term. Personally I think eSports enthusiasts should be happy that it is serious companies such as MLG and ESL that are asking for money, with the view of injecting it back to eSports. Both have won, or should have won, the loyalty of eSports enthusiasts, so let's give them something really small back, but which in essence helps a lot. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
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Steamboatlol
United States161 Posts
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murphs
Ireland417 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:40 Scootaloo wrote: Fuck you Sundance =D Hey, them pulling this dumb ass shit will at least prompt the pirating community to start ripping MLG. I know I'll be checking my torrent trackers. Oh please go away. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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LeFroMaGe
United States628 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:23 TheDougler wrote: I love you Asha' and understand your stance... But with that said, Fuck you. If Sundance hasn't proven that he has a vision for e-sports yet, that he listens to the fans with their every complaint --well... aside from Extended series-- then I could appreciate this reaction. But... Sundance has proven that he cares. And he has said before that if e-sports is to be successful as a business it can't keep leaking money with advertisements being the only stopper. Personally I'm fine with this. I would NOT have been fine with this if this was a year ago. Dallas was a terrible, TERRIBLE thing. But with the quality that MLG (and other tournaments) provide, I am more than willing to pay for it. 2011 was a test run for SC2 as a serious international e-sport and it widely surpassed pretty much everyone's expectations. It's time to pay the piper now and I'm sorry to those that don't understand that. I'll be enjoying watching this fantastic event without you guys I guess. I'll be right there with you buddy | ||
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Resilient
United Kingdom1431 Posts
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garbodor
269 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:40 EagleShade wrote: Typically in the $50 ish range depending on HD or not. That is for ONE event of about 3 hours with about 6 matches on it. I get why they are doing it. It makes since. The problem with this is when comparing this 3 day event with a 3 hour event is the idea of "being able to invite people over and pitch in for the cost." You can't do that for a 3 day event the way you can for a 3 hour event. "Hey, you guys wanna come over and watch MLG with me for 3 days? If we all pitch in, it'll be like $5 per person." ... I don't think so. to be fair, mma/boxing and the like is much more limited in scope, there aren't fights happening every day for free that super-saturate the market on any given day you can find several starcraft 2 tournaments running for free, and Gom produces a much-higher quality product with better players/casters/production than anything MLG has put out for a price that's much more reasonable--$20 for an entire months worth of two tournaments. Also, the decision to not include this in the MLG gold package is kind of ridiculous. :c | ||
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:39 hoby2000 wrote: Oh my god. This thread is making me facepalm so hard. But it seems you all live with your parents, or someone still pays for your shit. Wow fuck off. I'm in college right now studying my ass off at UT, and you're telling me that somebody pays for MY shit? I pay my own bills, my own rent, my own gas money, my own meal money thank you very much. To some people, money is slightly more important. I think YOU are the one who gets to have whatever you want. Why else would you drop $20 on a single weekend of videos like its nothing? | ||
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Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:35 See.Blue wrote: In what world is $20USD not a reasonable price for a weekend of high quality entertainment? The entitlement of people is unreal. There's a case to be made about whether MLG provides high quality entertainment but after their last few tournaments I don't know how you could think otherwise... In this world, where most sc2 is free, and the ones we're paying for provide us with the best players and infinity more hours of starcraft action. You wouldn't pay $20 for a steak if you could get a bigger, tastier one for less money. | ||
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McDrizzle
United States131 Posts
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heartlxp
United States1258 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:39 Golgotha wrote: can we have the poll posted in the OP? yeah let's please do a poll, it seems like a 30-70, but i want to confirm | ||
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Olinimm
1471 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:40 SMD wrote: As many of stated, the players list is awesome... DRG NEstea MVP MC, right there should have you.... Indeed, the player list is infinitely superior to Assembly. | ||
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aristarchus
United States652 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:40 Scootaloo wrote: Fuck you Sundance =D Hey, them pulling this dumb ass shit will at least prompt the pirating community to start ripping MLG. I know I'll be checking my torrent trackers. This sort of response is dumb. Maybe it's too much money. Maybe you shouldn't pay for it. That's perfectly unreasonable. But it's not an injustice. There's no moral argument to be made here, and they have the right to charge whatever they want. And you don't get to steal something just because you don't feel like paying what they're charging. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:41 Abort Retry Fail wrote: Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy??? Esports is all about technology and internet and all the comfort it brings, including vods, replays, and yes, free streams. Not buying, and I'm sure many won't too. .........do you think the production,venue,prize money and equipment just magically appears out of no where for us to be able to watch free content..... | ||
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Clank
United States548 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:37 Angel_ wrote: Good luck on that. 20 for two days of MLG stream? frankly. IPL 3 had more player content outside of just the tournament than any has before or since in sc2...and even then if it were only two days i wouldn't pay 20. i certainly won't to stare at red/blue mirrored stream for 3 hours past when it's supposed to be, with occasional completely unplanned spur of the moment player interviews, no panels, etc...and if i'm casually surprised and the dr pepper stream is just amazing maybe itll be amazing and sway me a little. MLG pro circuit events =/= the upcoming arena. Obviously nobody but MLG knows what the actual content will be, but with only 32 players in a small studio, You can guarantee that the overall production will be much better than anything they have produced in the past. | ||
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TrickyGilligan
United States641 Posts
On February 14 2012 08:36 swinkles wrote: god this is so indicative how how this generation (especially ones well versed with internet) just refuses to pay for content, no matter how enjoyable it may be. 3 days of games for 20 bucks, wheras ppv for boxing or ufc which is just one night can be anywhere around 70-80 dollars. if we really want to show we "care" and "support" esports, how is it possible to defend that statement if as a majority arent even motivated and passionate to flip 20 bucks for a tournament which has consistently proven to be entertaining and fun experience? it could be that everyone is just REALLY poor (i mean no disposable income at all, which is unlikely) or no job, but it sounds more like just whining and complaining that not everything is free. we've been spoiled with all the high quality content that starcraft 2 has provided, i think its disappointing we cant shell out a few bucks for a cause that has brought us much joy over the past years. I don't agree with this in any way, shape, or form. https://buy.louisck.net/ Comedian Louis CK offered a 2 hour special on a website for $5 with absolutely no DRM. About a week later, he'd made $1,000,000. Clearly no one on the internet was willing to pay him, right? What we have here are people who value their time and money making choices. Sure, it's only $20, but lots of things are only $20, and guess what, I don't buy most of them. | ||
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