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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 10 2012 10:51 GMT
#381
Damn, this is really nice by Blizzard.

Now let us pray HotS will bring a new Interface and a bit better gameplay.
I had a good night of sleep.
Morphs
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands645 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 10:58:06
February 10 2012 10:51 GMT
#382
WTF, why does Blizzard act so weird? If you don't know what I'm talking about, check this:

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/3675243/Singing_in_Terrain_-06_02_2012#blog

This is an article linked on Battle.net. It's an article about the do's and don't of mapmaking. In the article they use Daybreak as the prime example of a great and balanced map. They also use Jungle Basin as the example of a really bad map. Since Blizzard itself linked this article, you would assume that they agree with this article that Daybreak is currently the best and most balanced map, right?

Wrong. They choose to omit the prime example map and pick two other (arguably still good) maps. Why??

So no, this action is not in line with Blizzard "listening to the community". It sure is better than their own crap, but still worse than actually knowing which map is the most popular and balanced. Let's hope they continue to learn and eventually REALLY do what the community wants.

- edit - The ONLY reason for not including Daybreak would be that it wasn't part of the TL mapmaking contest. That still is a pretty weak argument in itself... how would you react if the announcement actually read "oh and to make you guys even happier, we even included the best and most balanced map of the moment, Daybreak!"... nah that would make too many people happy I guess
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
February 10 2012 10:57 GMT
#383
any word if they removed close positions on entombed valley

Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
StrinterN
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark531 Posts
February 10 2012 10:58 GMT
#384
Well that was about time Xel'Naga got removed and i also expected Arid Plateau to be removed.
Good to see blizzard implement "Community maps".
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krun
Profile Joined August 2011
23 Posts
February 10 2012 10:58 GMT
#385
Yay, good changes.
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 11:01:55
February 10 2012 10:58 GMT
#386
Love those maps, thanks blizzard


EDIT:
We would also like to recognize IronmanSC and the members of ESV and The Planetary Workshop (TPW) for their amazing work on Ohana, which took second place in the TeamLiquid map contest. We’re currently working with IronmanSC to help fix a few bugs while ensuring we retain the intent of the map, and once those are done we’ll be adding it to the pool for a future ladder season.


more good stuff coming up =)
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3682 Posts
February 10 2012 10:59 GMT
#387
On February 10 2012 19:57 Let it Raine wrote:
any word if they removed close positions on entombed valley



Oh shit I forgot about that, would be sweat also I pray that antiga is cross only now T.T
Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
February 10 2012 10:59 GMT
#388
What, blizzard listening to community? Really good both, removals and additions.
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
February 10 2012 11:00 GMT
#389
Sick! GJ ESV :D
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
February 10 2012 11:09 GMT
#390
Needs daybreak and sanshorn mists
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
February 10 2012 11:11 GMT
#391
Its funny, Blizzard removes the maps people hate and brings 2 very popular maps from the community into the ladder pool, and all people do is bitch that they didn't include Daybreak. What in the flying fuck? Are you people EVER happy with anything you get?

Daybreak isn't even that balanced, its considered somewhat zerg-favored. Its also ridiculously large.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 11:15:59
February 10 2012 11:13 GMT
#392
On February 10 2012 20:11 Bagi wrote:
Its funny, Blizzard removes the maps people hate and brings 2 very popular maps from the community into the ladder pool, and all people do is bitch that they didn't include Daybreak. What in the flying fuck? Are you people EVER happy with anything you get?

Daybreak isn't even that balanced, its considered somewhat zerg-favored. Its also ridiculously large.


Maybe it's because it took them a year to make the pool somewhat decent and almost another half year to start adding community maps (besides taldarim like an age ago)? Maybe because daybreak has been around since like july/august now and people have been wanting it in ladder for that long? Or maybe just because the ladder pool still features really, really old and outdated maps? Keep in mind this is the first season ever that we don't have to deal with some new terrible map made by blizzard when the community had maps 100x better than what blizzard had forever.

I think we can all agree that this update is a step in the right direction, but it would be totally wrong to jump on the sickest blizzard bandwaggon just because they did something good for the pool for once.
kinglemon
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany199 Posts
February 10 2012 11:17 GMT
#393
On February 10 2012 19:51 Morphs wrote:
WTF, why does Blizzard act so weird? If you don't know what I'm talking about, check this:

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/3675243/Singing_in_Terrain_-06_02_2012#blog

This is an article linked on Battle.net. It's an article about the do's and don't of mapmaking. In the article they use Daybreak as the prime example of a great and balanced map. They also use Jungle Basin as the example of a really bad map. Since Blizzard itself linked this article, you would assume that they agree with this article that Daybreak is currently the best and most balanced map, right?

Wrong. They choose to omit the prime example map and pick two other (arguably still good) maps. Why??

So no, this action is not in line with Blizzard "listening to the community". It sure is better than their own crap, but still worse than actually knowing which map is the most popular and balanced. Let's hope they continue to learn and eventually REALLY do what the community wants.

- edit - The ONLY reason for not including Daybreak would be that it wasn't part of the TL mapmaking contest. That still is a pretty weak argument in itself... how would you react if the announcement actually read "oh and to make you guys even happier, we even included the best and most balanced map of the moment, Daybreak!"... nah that would make too many people happy I guess


daybreak is boring and blizz maybe found out.

i'm happy that they finally open doors for some custom maps.
but i wanted to see calm before the storm the most.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
February 10 2012 11:19 GMT
#394
On February 10 2012 20:17 kinglemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 19:51 Morphs wrote:
WTF, why does Blizzard act so weird? If you don't know what I'm talking about, check this:

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/3675243/Singing_in_Terrain_-06_02_2012#blog

This is an article linked on Battle.net. It's an article about the do's and don't of mapmaking. In the article they use Daybreak as the prime example of a great and balanced map. They also use Jungle Basin as the example of a really bad map. Since Blizzard itself linked this article, you would assume that they agree with this article that Daybreak is currently the best and most balanced map, right?

Wrong. They choose to omit the prime example map and pick two other (arguably still good) maps. Why??

So no, this action is not in line with Blizzard "listening to the community". It sure is better than their own crap, but still worse than actually knowing which map is the most popular and balanced. Let's hope they continue to learn and eventually REALLY do what the community wants.

- edit - The ONLY reason for not including Daybreak would be that it wasn't part of the TL mapmaking contest. That still is a pretty weak argument in itself... how would you react if the announcement actually read "oh and to make you guys even happier, we even included the best and most balanced map of the moment, Daybreak!"... nah that would make too many people happy I guess


daybreak is boring and blizz maybe found out.

i'm happy that they finally open doors for some custom maps.
but i wanted to see calm before the storm the most.

Calm before the storm is way more boring than Daybreak
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
February 10 2012 11:20 GMT
#395
On February 10 2012 20:13 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 20:11 Bagi wrote:
Its funny, Blizzard removes the maps people hate and brings 2 very popular maps from the community into the ladder pool, and all people do is bitch that they didn't include Daybreak. What in the flying fuck? Are you people EVER happy with anything you get?

Daybreak isn't even that balanced, its considered somewhat zerg-favored. Its also ridiculously large.


Maybe it's because it took them a year to make the pool somewhat decent and almost another half year to start adding community maps (besides taldarim like an age ago)? Maybe because daybreak has been around since like july/august now and people have been wanting it in ladder for that long? Or maybe just because the ladder pool still features really, really old and outdated maps? Keep in mind this is the first season ever that we don't have to deal with some new terrible map made by blizzard when the community had maps 100x better than what blizzard had forever.

I think we can all agree that this update is a step in the right direction, but it would be totally wrong to jump on the sickest blizzard bandwaggon just because they did something good for the pool for once.

So you think people should bitch about this because of bitterness with the old map pool?

Weird arguments... they didn't include Daybreak, who cares the new maps are nice.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
February 10 2012 11:20 GMT
#396
On February 10 2012 20:13 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 20:11 Bagi wrote:
Its funny, Blizzard removes the maps people hate and brings 2 very popular maps from the community into the ladder pool, and all people do is bitch that they didn't include Daybreak. What in the flying fuck? Are you people EVER happy with anything you get?

Daybreak isn't even that balanced, its considered somewhat zerg-favored. Its also ridiculously large.


Maybe it's because it took them a year to make the pool somewhat decent and almost another half year to start adding community maps (besides taldarim like an age ago)? Maybe because daybreak has been around since like july/august now and people have been wanting it in ladder for that long? Or maybe just because the ladder pool still features really, really old and outdated maps? Keep in mind this is the first season ever that we don't have to deal with some new terrible map made by blizzard when the community had maps 100x better than what blizzard had forever.

I think we can all agree that this update is a step in the right direction, but it would be totally wrong to jump on the sickest blizzard bandwaggon just because they did something good for the pool for once.

So what you are saying is that people are so used to bitching after doing so for long, they can't stop?
noxn
Profile Joined December 2010
65 Posts
February 10 2012 11:20 GMT
#397
On February 10 2012 20:13 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 20:11 Bagi wrote:
Its funny, Blizzard removes the maps people hate and brings 2 very popular maps from the community into the ladder pool, and all people do is bitch that they didn't include Daybreak. What in the flying fuck? Are you people EVER happy with anything you get?

Daybreak isn't even that balanced, its considered somewhat zerg-favored. Its also ridiculously large.


Maybe it's because it took them a year to make the pool somewhat decent and almost another half year to start adding community maps (besides taldarim like an age ago)? Maybe because daybreak has been around since like july/august now and people have been wanting it in ladder for that long? Or maybe just because the ladder pool still features really, really old and outdated maps? Keep in mind this is the first season ever that we don't have to deal with some new terrible map made by blizzard when the community had maps 100x better than what blizzard had forever.

I think we can all agree that this update is a step in the right direction, but it would be totally wrong to jump on the sickest blizzard bandwaggon just because they did something good for the pool for once.


what do you mean "for once"? The map pool has been getting better every season. It's not like they reintroduced Scrap Station and Searing Crater.

You act like the map pool has been completely garbage up until this point, lol.
Morphs
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands645 Posts
February 10 2012 11:20 GMT
#398
On February 10 2012 20:11 Bagi wrote:
What in the flying fuck? Are you people EVER happy with anything you get?


People are content, but Blizzard seems to miss what people are actually asking for, which includes Daybreak. It's like giving a kid a Gameboy while it was asking for a 3DS. Doesn't it have a right to state that this was NOT what it was asking for?

Daybreak isn't even that balanced, its considered somewhat zerg-favored. Its also ridiculously large.


Back that statement up with numbers please. I'm sure you'll be able to find the topic where the numbers point it out to be actually the most balanced map of the moment. It's not larger than TDA.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 10 2012 11:20 GMT
#399
On February 10 2012 20:17 kinglemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 19:51 Morphs wrote:
WTF, why does Blizzard act so weird? If you don't know what I'm talking about, check this:

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/3675243/Singing_in_Terrain_-06_02_2012#blog

This is an article linked on Battle.net. It's an article about the do's and don't of mapmaking. In the article they use Daybreak as the prime example of a great and balanced map. They also use Jungle Basin as the example of a really bad map. Since Blizzard itself linked this article, you would assume that they agree with this article that Daybreak is currently the best and most balanced map, right?

Wrong. They choose to omit the prime example map and pick two other (arguably still good) maps. Why??

So no, this action is not in line with Blizzard "listening to the community". It sure is better than their own crap, but still worse than actually knowing which map is the most popular and balanced. Let's hope they continue to learn and eventually REALLY do what the community wants.

- edit - The ONLY reason for not including Daybreak would be that it wasn't part of the TL mapmaking contest. That still is a pretty weak argument in itself... how would you react if the announcement actually read "oh and to make you guys even happier, we even included the best and most balanced map of the moment, Daybreak!"... nah that would make too many people happy I guess


daybreak is boring and blizz maybe found out.

i'm happy that they finally open doors for some custom maps.
but i wanted to see calm before the storm the most.


Daybreak is boring, but you like Calm Before the Storm? ...different folks I guess
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Matkap
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain627 Posts
February 10 2012 11:22 GMT
#400
well, people will always find something to bich about...

I think this is a great move by blizzard and they are going in the right direction, a bit slow maybe, but they are trying to do the right thing at least
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