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tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
February 08 2012 20:29 GMT
#61
On February 09 2012 04:58 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 04:15 double620 wrote:
On February 09 2012 04:00 K3Nyy wrote:
MC is such a beast! I really like his honest opinions in the interview. I'm looking forward to his 3rd GSL win!


You got to respect Mc. When toss is doing well, he will honestly tell you other races are not imba unlike some others.


Yeah but when it's doing bad he whines endlessly about it being the worst race.

When. Link? quote it. I remember when KA nerf came he just said "no comment" He has also said "I love every protoss unit"

MC is not one to whine like other pros. He's a boss. Bosses don't whine.
MC for president
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
February 08 2012 20:31 GMT
#62
On February 09 2012 04:38 fishuu wrote:
Ahahaha, nice to see Parting's not short of confidence.

Pretty shocking after *just* getting 2-0ed.
MC for president
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
February 08 2012 20:37 GMT
#63
Parting walking the Royal Road would be one hell of a story!
TrickyGilligan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States641 Posts
February 08 2012 20:39 GMT
#64
On February 09 2012 04:34 bbm wrote:
What was the royal road reference in parting's interview about?


Royal Road = winning a star league on your first appearance in it. If Parting wins this GSL season, he'll be the first person to pull that off in SC2, since I don't think Fruitdealer really counts since that was EVERYONE'S first GSL.
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." -Groucho Marx
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
February 08 2012 20:40 GMT
#65
On February 09 2012 05:29 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 04:58 Talack wrote:
On February 09 2012 04:15 double620 wrote:
On February 09 2012 04:00 K3Nyy wrote:
MC is such a beast! I really like his honest opinions in the interview. I'm looking forward to his 3rd GSL win!


You got to respect Mc. When toss is doing well, he will honestly tell you other races are not imba unlike some others.


Yeah but when it's doing bad he whines endlessly about it being the worst race.

When. Link? quote it. I remember when KA nerf came he just said "no comment" He has also said "I love every protoss unit"

MC is not one to whine like other pros. He's a boss. Bosses don't whine.

Are you implying NesTea's not a boss?
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 20:47:01
February 08 2012 20:45 GMT
#66
On February 09 2012 05:40 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 05:29 tdt wrote:
On February 09 2012 04:58 Talack wrote:
On February 09 2012 04:15 double620 wrote:
On February 09 2012 04:00 K3Nyy wrote:
MC is such a beast! I really like his honest opinions in the interview. I'm looking forward to his 3rd GSL win!


You got to respect Mc. When toss is doing well, he will honestly tell you other races are not imba unlike some others.


Yeah but when it's doing bad he whines endlessly about it being the worst race.

When. Link? quote it. I remember when KA nerf came he just said "no comment" He has also said "I love every protoss unit"

MC is not one to whine like other pros. He's a boss. Bosses don't whine.

Are you implying NesTea's not a boss?

MC would be alpha male on desert island let's just say that. Nestea would be his wise sage.
MC for president
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
February 08 2012 21:13 GMT
#67
Getting 0-2'd by MC and he still has that kinda confidence. Pretty bold. I hope he doesn't fade out after people start punishing his greedy builds
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
February 08 2012 21:16 GMT
#68
On February 09 2012 06:13 power-overwhelming wrote:
Getting 0-2'd by MC and he still has that kinda confidence. Pretty bold. I hope he doesn't fade out after people start punishing his greedy builds


The real challenge for all these hyped Protoss players is twofold.

1) Get into Code S/do well in Code A

2) Stay there, and adapt to continue to do well.

So far, the only hyped new Protoss who managed to come close to a Royal Road is Oz. He's currently in Code A, and he has proved himself for the first part, and now it's his chance to prove the second part.

I foresee Parting being similar: making a good splash, but having to prove his staying power.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
February 08 2012 21:23 GMT
#69
On February 09 2012 04:08 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 03:53 SeaSwift wrote:
On February 09 2012 03:40 tdt wrote:
On February 09 2012 03:23 sitromit wrote:
On February 09 2012 03:13 SeaSwift wrote:
On February 09 2012 03:03 sitromit wrote:
So MC himself confirms what DRG and Nestea were tweeting about recently. Yet Blizzard is talking about even more Protoss buffs...


Think about PvZ a couple of months ago. Zergs just crushed Protoss, P was at like 38% winrate in GSL including Code A.

What changed? Maps. Immortal range. Upgrades costs.

None of those are massive alone, the really P favoured maps are already gone. CBTS is gone, most maps are considered either Zerg favoured or balanced.

PvZ is still a really unexplored matchup, so while I don't see P buffs as necessary (for PvZ), it's not like Zerg are totally screwed right now.


No, it's more like the cumulative effects of several Protoss buffs over several patches finally reaching a tipping point along with metagame changes. If they buff even further, I can't even imagine how it will be...

Um the matchup is still zerg favored look at the stats. I guess protoss is never supposed to win in your eyes and if they do start approaching even 50% for even a month the whining begins with zergs.


Actually in Korea it's currently ~55% for Protoss.

http://imgur.com/a/hQHYS

Of course, internationally PvZ is horrific, but that's not the highest level of play. Once mass Muta into BL/Infestor starts getting figured out, international PvZ should get much better.

If you look properly December was 55% for Protoss, January was 55% for Zerg. That things can flip around that much with no big patches going on just shows that it's a very small sample size and that both sides can win the matchup fine. MC has always been super confident against Zerg, it doesn't have much to do with the current state of PvZ.


Small sample size... yet Protoss are always the first to jump and point to GSL to prove their inferiority or to prove the OPness of Terran.
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany830 Posts
February 08 2012 22:25 GMT
#70
It feels like MC just did 2 interviews and they put a picture of Parting on top of it

Nice to see that there are other, really confident players out there who are not afraid to show it.
"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
blacklist_member
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia318 Posts
February 08 2012 22:31 GMT
#71
Great interviews , MC vs parting final is possible by the way these guys played today.

On February 09 2012 07:25 Espelz wrote:
It feels like MC just did 2 interviews and they put a picture of Parting on top of it


So MC wants to play himself in the finals?
MC and MKP fighting ^^
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
February 08 2012 22:45 GMT
#72
On February 09 2012 05:40 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 05:29 tdt wrote:
On February 09 2012 04:58 Talack wrote:
On February 09 2012 04:15 double620 wrote:
On February 09 2012 04:00 K3Nyy wrote:
MC is such a beast! I really like his honest opinions in the interview. I'm looking forward to his 3rd GSL win!


You got to respect Mc. When toss is doing well, he will honestly tell you other races are not imba unlike some others.


Yeah but when it's doing bad he whines endlessly about it being the worst race.

When. Link? quote it. I remember when KA nerf came he just said "no comment" He has also said "I love every protoss unit"

MC is not one to whine like other pros. He's a boss. Bosses don't whine.

Are you implying NesTea's not a boss?

Well Nestea is a great player and I'd have respected him a lot if he didn't whine like a schoolgirl.
xi Tempest x
Profile Joined July 2011
Scotland340 Posts
February 08 2012 22:54 GMT
#73
Parting looks really good PvT and decent PvZ (from what i have seen)

But I cannot see him beating any good tosses on the big stage (MC, Puzzle and Genius if he advances)

IF he avoids a PvP series, i wouldn't be all that surprised if he did get to the final and perhaps even won the whole thing. Although, if i was a betting man, i would put my money on mma.
W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
February 08 2012 23:19 GMT
#74
MC's games leave little room for interpretation, but I am going to give it a try anyway.

Two PvT's against Ganzi, both 2 base gateway timing attacks. How did the games turn out so one-sided? MC popularized this timing, so let's assume he's pretty decent at it, but shouldn't the skill cap be pretty low for a rush like this? I'm sure GanZi will have faced this countless times in his practice.

First game, Ganzi sneaks out 9 marines bypassing the stalker. Eventually he loses them but it was an agreeable decision. But being down 9 in army I guess the zealot/stalker army was just too strong. I believe MC had pretty high confidence his timing would work on such few bunkers+ smaller terran army, hence pure zealot/stalker was enough by him.

Second game was slightly more confusing. Ganzi went a more standard 3 rax even with stim ready before the push, AND he scouted the proxy pylon. But he still doesn't hold. I feel like he could have held if there were no sentries to stop him from taking advantage of the stim. More bunkers and scv's I guess?
Hi
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
February 08 2012 23:29 GMT
#75
Guys, you're all missing the point. Didn't you see one of MC's practice partners?

oGs_Galikgun

That just proves that oGs is not short of talent when they have someone that is literally over 9000.

Also Parting's confidence is awesome, we need more arrogant players
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
February 08 2012 23:33 GMT
#76
Looking forward seeing MC in gsl off the record

On February 09 2012 04:14 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 03:40 tdt wrote:
On February 09 2012 03:23 sitromit wrote:
On February 09 2012 03:13 SeaSwift wrote:
On February 09 2012 03:03 sitromit wrote:
So MC himself confirms what DRG and Nestea were tweeting about recently. Yet Blizzard is talking about even more Protoss buffs...


Think about PvZ a couple of months ago. Zergs just crushed Protoss, P was at like 38% winrate in GSL including Code A.

What changed? Maps. Immortal range. Upgrades costs.

None of those are massive alone, the really P favoured maps are already gone. CBTS is gone, most maps are considered either Zerg favoured or balanced.

PvZ is still a really unexplored matchup, so while I don't see P buffs as necessary (for PvZ), it's not like Zerg are totally screwed right now.


No, it's more like the cumulative effects of several Protoss buffs over several patches finally reaching a tipping point along with metagame changes. If they buff even further, I can't even imagine how it will be...

Um the matchup is still zerg favored look at the stats. I guess protoss is never supposed to win in your eyes and if they do start approaching even 50% for even a month the whining begins with zergs.

I don't think they care about some silly ladder ratings.
The only thing they care about is the GSL (code A and S) and let's be honest, zergs are getting slaughtered this season.


It is in fact not based on ladder but tournaments results
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
February 08 2012 23:34 GMT
#77
Lol the stc is everywhere! training with both MC and Parting. he must be good luck.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
February 08 2012 23:34 GMT
#78
On February 09 2012 07:45 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 05:40 babylon wrote:
On February 09 2012 05:29 tdt wrote:
On February 09 2012 04:58 Talack wrote:
On February 09 2012 04:15 double620 wrote:
On February 09 2012 04:00 K3Nyy wrote:
MC is such a beast! I really like his honest opinions in the interview. I'm looking forward to his 3rd GSL win!


You got to respect Mc. When toss is doing well, he will honestly tell you other races are not imba unlike some others.


Yeah but when it's doing bad he whines endlessly about it being the worst race.

When. Link? quote it. I remember when KA nerf came he just said "no comment" He has also said "I love every protoss unit"

MC is not one to whine like other pros. He's a boss. Bosses don't whine.

Are you implying NesTea's not a boss?

Well Nestea is a great player and I'd have respected him a lot if he didn't whine like a schoolgirl.

That's what makes him so hilarious though. It's like, if he didn't simultaneously whine one second and act all maturely smug the next second, he would just be ... such a square. D:
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
February 08 2012 23:40 GMT
#79
On February 09 2012 08:19 W2 wrote:
MC's games leave little room for interpretation, but I am going to give it a try anyway.

Two PvT's against Ganzi, both 2 base gateway timing attacks. How did the games turn out so one-sided? MC popularized this timing, so let's assume he's pretty decent at it, but shouldn't the skill cap be pretty low for a rush like this? I'm sure GanZi will have faced this countless times in his practice.

First game, Ganzi sneaks out 9 marines bypassing the stalker. Eventually he loses them but it was an agreeable decision. But being down 9 in army I guess the zealot/stalker army was just too strong. I believe MC had pretty high confidence his timing would work on such few bunkers+ smaller terran army, hence pure zealot/stalker was enough by him.

Second game was slightly more confusing. Ganzi went a more standard 3 rax even with stim ready before the push, AND he scouted the proxy pylon. But he still doesn't hold. I feel like he could have held if there were no sentries to stop him from taking advantage of the stim. More bunkers and scv's I guess?

Basically, every foreign Protoss player sucks at using forcefield, and it is very difficult for a Terran to know if their build is safe to a 6 gate. MC is still the only Protoss player where I think the forcefields are intelligently placed and well conserved.
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
February 08 2012 23:44 GMT
#80
love that startale swagger from parting, after watching basically every ksl/esv weekly game of parting i would have to say his pvt is much better than his pvz though

thanks for the translation
bisu
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