EPT[Interview] 2012 GSL S1 CodeS RO16 Group C Winners - Page 3
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IMNotMvp
Korea (South)530 Posts
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double620
China804 Posts
On February 09 2012 04:00 K3Nyy wrote: MC is such a beast! I really like his honest opinions in the interview. I'm looking forward to his 3rd GSL win! You got to respect Mc. When toss is doing well, he will honestly tell you other races are not imba unlike some others. | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On February 09 2012 04:15 double620 wrote: You got to respect Mc. When toss is doing well, he will honestly tell you other races are not imba unlike some others. Wha? Maybe I'm misunderstanding your post but MC pretty much stated flat out that protoss is OP, at least in PvZ. | ||
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architecture
United States643 Posts
No race should be fragile. But the issue is that Protoss timing attacks hit too hard with warpin, and their lategame is not contestable, at least for Terran. | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On February 09 2012 04:12 Welmu wrote: Infestor change, Warp prism buff, cheaper upgrades are all pretty major changes helping out PvZ :> In which case you would expect the winrate to change with each patch, as they did not all occur in one patch. Protoss would gradually gain a higher percentage, but they didn't. It just went BOOM from about 37% to >50% all of a sudden. And at the same time, playstyle's changed dramatically. I don't see this as a coincidence. | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On February 09 2012 04:23 red4ce wrote: Wha? Maybe I'm misunderstanding your post but MC pretty much stated flat out that protoss is OP, at least in PvZ. Well, he could have meant that he was really good at it. Nestea would state that he would crush pretty much anyone in a ZvZ, but that doesn't make ZvZ imbalanced (obv). Also, you did misunderstand his post. Nestea, MVP et al have complained about the state of Terran or Zerg when they were in interviews, even when they had phenomenal winrates and Protoss was being wiped clean from GSL. MC doesn't do that. | ||
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babylon
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Gogogo, Parting.  | ||
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bbm
United Kingdom1320 Posts
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fishuu
United States369 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On February 09 2012 04:32 SeaSwift wrote: Well, he could have meant that he was really good at it. Nestea would state that he would crush pretty much anyone in a ZvZ, but that doesn't make ZvZ imbalanced (obv). Also, you did misunderstand his post. Nestea, MVP et al have complained about the state of Terran or Zerg when they were in interviews, even when they had phenomenal winrates and Protoss was being wiped clean from GSL. MC doesn't do that. "Q: This current season seems to be the best chance for Protoss. As President of Protoss, what are your thoughts? A: For PvT, the map order is really important, but for PvZ, it is true that Protoss has an advantage in that matchup. I will have to look out for tomorrow's group D matches to know who my next opponent will be. However, if a Zerg qualifies in second place for that group, I am confident of winning 3-0." Well my interpretation of that quote is that he said protoss has an advantage, not that he personally has an advantage. He also doesn't seem to care whether it's Nestea or DRG who he faces, he's just confident that if he plays a zerg he'll win 3-0. I'm aware of Nestea complaining about zerg even when he was doing well but I dunno about MVP. I only recall him saying there were too many terrans in code S and that he was going to knock the undeserving ones out. On February 09 2012 04:39 HaXXspetten wrote: MC boss as always. Interesting to see that he'd openly say that he thinks Protoss has the advantage in PvZ, when the stats don't really back it up. MC is the president toss, the pinnacle of protoss play. Only balance at the very top is relevant to MC, not the results of lesser competition. | ||
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89andy
Canada192 Posts
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On February 09 2012 04:15 double620 wrote: You got to respect Mc. When toss is doing well, he will honestly tell you other races are not imba unlike some others. Yeah but when it's doing bad he whines endlessly about it being the worst race. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On February 09 2012 04:42 red4ce wrote: "Q: This current season seems to be the best chance for Protoss. As President of Protoss, what are your thoughts? A: For PvT, the map order is really important, but for PvZ, it is true that Protoss has an advantage in that matchup. I will have to look out for tomorrow's group D matches to know who my next opponent will be. However, if a Zerg qualifies in second place for that group, I am confident of winning 3-0." Well my interpretation of that quote is that he said protoss has an advantage, not that he personally has an advantage. He also doesn't seem to care whether it's Nestea or DRG who he faces, he's just confident that if he plays a zerg he'll win 3-0. I'm aware of Nestea complaining about zerg even when he was doing well but I dunno about MVP. I only recall him saying there were too many terrans in code S and that he was going to knock the undeserving ones out. MVP's definitely balance-whined in the past before. I distinctly remember an interview in which he said that Terran was the weakest race. | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On February 09 2012 04:58 Talack wrote: Yeah but when it's doing bad he whines endlessly about it being the worst race. What? Lol, I don't remember that. When did he do this? | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
On February 09 2012 04:58 Talack wrote: Yeah but when it's doing bad he whines endlessly about it being the worst race. Never saw him do that. I've seen him always being honest though. When he won his first GSL, he said Protoss was not UP. There was a few other times too and this time also. Gotta respect that. | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On February 09 2012 04:58 Talack wrote: Yeah but when it's doing bad he whines endlessly about it being the worst race. he never blamed his losses on imbalance...he always said protoss as the weakest and terran strongest to poke fun at the statistics | ||
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GeorgeForeman
United States1746 Posts
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
On February 09 2012 04:31 SeaSwift wrote: In which case you would expect the winrate to change with each patch, as they did not all occur in one patch. Protoss would gradually gain a higher percentage, but they didn't. It just went BOOM from about 37% to >50% all of a sudden. And at the same time, playstyle's changed dramatically. I don't see this as a coincidence. takes while to adapt~ | ||
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