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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 07 2012 22:23 GMT
#641
I'd be kind of skeptical to pick up NaDa now as another team due to his reasoning for leaving. "I wanted to give myself new challenges" doesn't exactly say oGs was treating him poorly or anything. That and his mandatory military service coming up.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
vijeze
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands719 Posts
February 07 2012 22:31 GMT
#642
SK.
MaestrO_
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States591 Posts
February 07 2012 22:34 GMT
#643
LiquidNada, need more terrans!
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 22:37:36
February 07 2012 22:35 GMT
#644
On February 07 2012 20:00 Strike_ wrote:
WHAT
NOOOO


why ? if he have more motivation he will start to be good again, atm in oGs he was falling more and more apart and soon would be out of the pro scene


On February 08 2012 06:42 Chvol wrote:
I don't think it hurts oGs that much to lose him. He hasn't really been a contender for a code S championship, ever. I think oGs probably could have kept him if they wanted to, seeing as they just got a new sponsor or two and a partnership.


you've no idea ^^ its like you lose michael jordan in basketball in the end, perhaps he not the fastest anymore, perhaps hes not the biggest not the best and not even the most talented BUT his name alone makes your team 1million times bigger
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
February 07 2012 22:41 GMT
#645
hmm AMD should sponsor nada and bring back [red]
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TrojanSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States82 Posts
February 07 2012 22:45 GMT
#646
Wow, I come home, get on TL, and find this. I think it's safe to say that this was completely unexpected. Anyways, best of luck to him finding another team and his time in the military.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
February 07 2012 22:47 GMT
#647
On February 08 2012 06:56 Demorase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 06:51 Swede wrote:
On February 08 2012 06:45 Demorase wrote:
On February 08 2012 06:40 Fionn wrote:
On February 08 2012 06:39 Demorase wrote:
A player of his caliber should have won a GSL by now, especially during the early days of SC2 when terran was much stronger, the GSL was his for the taking all it took was a bunker rush and good micro back then. And yet, all he's managed to get in a whole year and a half is a quarter finals.

I think Nada's playstyle is way too passive, it might have worked in SC1 but in SC2 terran is an aggressive race, and his playstyle is completely unadapted. He's got a lot of work cut out for him if he wants to win a GSL, he needs to rework his entire playstyle.


I think Nada had a great shot at winning GSL May, but then Inca cheesed him to death and we never got the epic finals of Nada vs. Nestea.

Oh Inca.



You can't blame Inca for abusing Nada's passivity, if Inca managed to exploit it so easily I don't see how Nada would have won a best of 7 in the finals anyway.

No, the problem is his playstyle, he plays Terran like Protoss, sitting forever macroing defending without ever attacking, except unlike Protoss he can't get a powerful death ball that can win in a straight battle maxed out. His playstyle makes no sense for Terran in SC2.


Have you watched his stream? That isn't his playstyle at all. Maybe it was once upon a time, but just because it was once doesn't mean it is now. He does all the standard Terran harrassment: banshees, hellions, drops etc and timing attacks too.

He also remains one of the most consistent players in SC2 just like he was in BW, so it's a tough argument to say that his playstyle was failing badly at any one point. Admittedly his win ratio has never been exceptional, but it's definitely been consistently decent.



Nada is extremely passive, he will NEVER be willing to risk it all on an all-in for example, and that's his Achilles heel. Everybody in the GSL knows it, he's no threat in the early-mid game, and everybody knows how to exploit his passivity by either cheesing him or outmacroing him by expanding more.

He's like Idra a year ago, except Idra is aware of it and has worked a lot to be less predictable, whereas Nada has made virtually no adjustement. And Idra plays a more passive race, and even then his passivity was a problem, let alone for a Terran.


You have seen Nada vs keen the first time they met? Passive is a word i would absolutly not attribute to that game.
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Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
February 07 2012 22:48 GMT
#648
wow, didnt see this coming, hopefully he finds a foreign team
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Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
February 07 2012 22:50 GMT
#649
On February 08 2012 06:56 Demorase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 06:51 Swede wrote:
On February 08 2012 06:45 Demorase wrote:
On February 08 2012 06:40 Fionn wrote:
On February 08 2012 06:39 Demorase wrote:
A player of his caliber should have won a GSL by now, especially during the early days of SC2 when terran was much stronger, the GSL was his for the taking all it took was a bunker rush and good micro back then. And yet, all he's managed to get in a whole year and a half is a quarter finals.

I think Nada's playstyle is way too passive, it might have worked in SC1 but in SC2 terran is an aggressive race, and his playstyle is completely unadapted. He's got a lot of work cut out for him if he wants to win a GSL, he needs to rework his entire playstyle.


I think Nada had a great shot at winning GSL May, but then Inca cheesed him to death and we never got the epic finals of Nada vs. Nestea.

Oh Inca.



You can't blame Inca for abusing Nada's passivity, if Inca managed to exploit it so easily I don't see how Nada would have won a best of 7 in the finals anyway.

No, the problem is his playstyle, he plays Terran like Protoss, sitting forever macroing defending without ever attacking, except unlike Protoss he can't get a powerful death ball that can win in a straight battle maxed out. His playstyle makes no sense for Terran in SC2.


Have you watched his stream? That isn't his playstyle at all. Maybe it was once upon a time, but just because it was once doesn't mean it is now. He does all the standard Terran harrassment: banshees, hellions, drops etc and timing attacks too.

He also remains one of the most consistent players in SC2 just like he was in BW, so it's a tough argument to say that his playstyle was failing badly at any one point. Admittedly his win ratio has never been exceptional, but it's definitely been consistently decent.



Nada is extremely passive, he will NEVER be willing to risk it all on an all-in for example, and that's his Achilles heel. Everybody in the GSL knows it, he's no threat in the early-mid game, and everybody knows how to exploit his passivity by either cheesing him or outmacroing him by expanding more.

He's like Idra a year ago, except Idra is aware of it and has worked a lot to be less predictable, whereas Nada has made virtually no adjustement. And Idra plays a more passive race, and even then his passivity was a problem, let alone for a Terran.


I'm sorry, but never all-inning isn't the same as being extremely passive. He makes aggressive moves, all-in or not, and therefore by definition he isn't passive.

I also disagree with the sentiment that Terran is necessarily a more aggressive race. There are playstyles that don't revolve around aggression which have been successful (mech is the easy example), and a lot of recent styles have had a bigger focus on expanding at Zerg-like speed than being aggressive (I have seen Nada play this style).

Anyway, maybe you're right that Nada has to add the occasional all-in to his play to achieve real success at this game, but in my opinion that says much more about SC2 as a game than anything else.
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
February 07 2012 22:50 GMT
#650
Clearly things weren't working out. I hope this brings his spark back and we see the Genius Terran back on his feet
Try another route paperboy.
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
February 07 2012 22:51 GMT
#651
This is really sad, but being NaDa he should find a team in no time! Though if oGs needs to stop losing their big name players, Zenio, MC, and now NaDa.
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
February 07 2012 22:52 GMT
#652
Saw this coming. Let's go SK.Nada!
Pocky52
Profile Joined November 2011
United States463 Posts
February 07 2012 22:53 GMT
#653
Wow, that sort of sucks for oGs, even just for the name, Nada is quite the loss
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
February 07 2012 22:55 GMT
#654
All signs point towards SK.
Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
February 07 2012 22:56 GMT
#655
I think it pays 1.0001 to 1 that he'll go to SK.
RoboBob
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States798 Posts
February 07 2012 22:57 GMT
#656
This is so bizarre. He already had a really good deal to go to foreign tournaments via OGS-SK, just like MC.

I can understand MC dumping OGS for SK if there was enough money involved. But Nada? He was making a ton of money in BW and he threw it all away in order to pursue SC2. It just doesn't make sense.
JagerGard
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden135 Posts
February 07 2012 22:58 GMT
#657
Good Luck NaDa!
Thanks for all the oGs memories, now I have no one except Fin to root for in oGs.
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MrSparkle
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada135 Posts
February 07 2012 23:15 GMT
#658
Interesting. Best of luck to NaDa. I'm really excited to see if this has the desired results and helps him improve his game. I'd love to see him back on top stomping nerds like a boss.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
February 07 2012 23:18 GMT
#659
SK_Nada
MC for president
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
February 07 2012 23:18 GMT
#660
So basically the amount of reasons he gave for leaving was...nada:D

Just trollin. I wonder if nada didn't have a good enough training schedule at oGs? The argument could be made that he is A) looking for more money or B) looking for better practice. I want it to be B
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