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Chvol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States200 Posts
February 07 2012 21:42 GMT
#621
I don't think it hurts oGs that much to lose him. He hasn't really been a contender for a code S championship, ever. I think oGs probably could have kept him if they wanted to, seeing as they just got a new sponsor or two and a partnership.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
February 07 2012 21:42 GMT
#622
What?!
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Quadratic
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada249 Posts
February 07 2012 21:43 GMT
#623
With his impending military service coming up I think this is a move to join a foreign team and try to attend as many events outside Korea as possible. I'm pretty sure he has more fans now then the height of his competitive BW career. I'm going to make a point this year to see him live in person is he makes it to North America.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 21:44:16
February 07 2012 21:43 GMT
#624
On February 08 2012 06:34 Fionn wrote:
Nada is already established, he has money and he's his own brand. If he wanted, to let's say, take over ZeNex and make that team his own, like Boxer and Slayers, he could do that.

Brilliant idea. NaDamall should sponsor ZeNEX.
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
February 07 2012 21:44 GMT
#625
Sad to see so many good players leave oGs. Best of luck to both him and the team.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1717 Posts
February 07 2012 21:44 GMT
#626
On February 08 2012 06:39 Demorase wrote:
A player of his caliber should have won a GSL by now, especially during the early days of SC2 when terran was much stronger, the GSL was his for the taking all it took was a bunker rush and good micro back then. And yet, all he's managed to get in a whole year and a half is a quarter finals.

I think Nada's playstyle is way too passive, it might have worked in SC1 but in SC2 terran is an aggressive race, and his playstyle is completely unadapted. He's got a lot of work cut out for him if he wants to win a GSL, he needs to rework his entire playstyle.

Also, he's old.
EleGant[AoV]
Demorase
Profile Joined January 2012
136 Posts
February 07 2012 21:45 GMT
#627
On February 08 2012 06:40 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 06:39 Demorase wrote:
A player of his caliber should have won a GSL by now, especially during the early days of SC2 when terran was much stronger, the GSL was his for the taking all it took was a bunker rush and good micro back then. And yet, all he's managed to get in a whole year and a half is a quarter finals.

I think Nada's playstyle is way too passive, it might have worked in SC1 but in SC2 terran is an aggressive race, and his playstyle is completely unadapted. He's got a lot of work cut out for him if he wants to win a GSL, he needs to rework his entire playstyle.


I think Nada had a great shot at winning GSL May, but then Inca cheesed him to death and we never got the epic finals of Nada vs. Nestea.

Oh Inca.



You can't blame Inca for abusing Nada's passivity, if Inca managed to exploit it so easily I don't see how Nada would have won a best of 7 in the finals anyway.

No, the problem is his playstyle, he plays Terran like Protoss, sitting forever macroing defending without ever attacking, except unlike Protoss he can't get a powerful death ball that can win in a straight battle maxed out. His playstyle makes no sense for Terran in SC2.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
February 07 2012 21:46 GMT
#628
I guess 2012 is really going to be a rebuilding year for some teams.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Wampaibist
Profile Joined July 2010
United States478 Posts
February 07 2012 21:47 GMT
#629
On February 08 2012 06:06 disciple wrote:
I think NaDa shouldn't be a mercenary for his name's sake and legacy. The most decorated BW player and one of the greatest ESPORTS legends in a foreign team for money ? I hope not. Imo he should start his own thing or join Slayers. The prospect of him joining a team with a say year long CJ B-teamer is disturbing for me.



I like team liquid for the types of players they pick up, Would I want sheth ( or any TL player) to be the flash of sc2 to give up being as sweet as he (they) is? nonono I wouldn't

Give Nada a chance liquid Nada gogo
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
February 07 2012 21:47 GMT
#630
whoah, that's really surprising. That also really sucks for oGs.
First MC, now NaDa...
My religion is Starcraft
Demorase
Profile Joined January 2012
136 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 21:51:15
February 07 2012 21:50 GMT
#631
On February 08 2012 06:44 ImbaTosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 06:39 Demorase wrote:
A player of his caliber should have won a GSL by now, especially during the early days of SC2 when terran was much stronger, the GSL was his for the taking all it took was a bunker rush and good micro back then. And yet, all he's managed to get in a whole year and a half is a quarter finals.

I think Nada's playstyle is way too passive, it might have worked in SC1 but in SC2 terran is an aggressive race, and his playstyle is completely unadapted. He's got a lot of work cut out for him if he wants to win a GSL, he needs to rework his entire playstyle.

Also, he's old.



He's not older than Nestea, who has won 3 championships so far, of which 1 was when his race was 2 times less powerful than Terran and still managed to win.

There's really no angle to explain Nada's underwhelming results so far, except that maybe he picked the absolute wrong race for his playstyle, i.e. passivity and reaction.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
February 07 2012 21:50 GMT
#632
I just hope that Nada won't join the first random team that promess to pay him what he asks... I really hope he sees more than the money in this change and really wants to give it all for his last year as a progamer (most likely).
Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 21:52:42
February 07 2012 21:51 GMT
#633
On February 08 2012 06:45 Demorase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 06:40 Fionn wrote:
On February 08 2012 06:39 Demorase wrote:
A player of his caliber should have won a GSL by now, especially during the early days of SC2 when terran was much stronger, the GSL was his for the taking all it took was a bunker rush and good micro back then. And yet, all he's managed to get in a whole year and a half is a quarter finals.

I think Nada's playstyle is way too passive, it might have worked in SC1 but in SC2 terran is an aggressive race, and his playstyle is completely unadapted. He's got a lot of work cut out for him if he wants to win a GSL, he needs to rework his entire playstyle.


I think Nada had a great shot at winning GSL May, but then Inca cheesed him to death and we never got the epic finals of Nada vs. Nestea.

Oh Inca.



You can't blame Inca for abusing Nada's passivity, if Inca managed to exploit it so easily I don't see how Nada would have won a best of 7 in the finals anyway.

No, the problem is his playstyle, he plays Terran like Protoss, sitting forever macroing defending without ever attacking, except unlike Protoss he can't get a powerful death ball that can win in a straight battle maxed out. His playstyle makes no sense for Terran in SC2.


Have you watched his stream? That isn't his playstyle at all. Maybe it was once upon a time, but just because it was once doesn't mean it is now. He does all the standard Terran harrassment: banshees, hellions, drops etc and timing attacks too.

He also remains one of the most consistent players in SC2 just like he was in BW, so it's a tough argument to say that his playstyle was failing badly at any one point. Admittedly his win ratio has never been exceptional, but it's definitely been consistently decent.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
February 07 2012 21:52 GMT
#634
Nadamall.... will you still sponsor your old family?
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
February 07 2012 21:52 GMT
#635
Starts a rival team to Slayers... gogogo
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Chocolatiere
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland7 Posts
February 07 2012 21:54 GMT
#636
I think whatever makes NaDa happy we are with him. Gl !
dukem
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway189 Posts
February 07 2012 21:55 GMT
#637
On February 08 2012 05:01 Sm1Le wrote:
incoming SlayerS_Nada

or even IMNada !!! ^__^


Either and my life is complete
"Flash just accidentally killed grubby lol" - MangoMountain
Demorase
Profile Joined January 2012
136 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 22:12:58
February 07 2012 21:56 GMT
#638
On February 08 2012 06:51 Swede wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 06:45 Demorase wrote:
On February 08 2012 06:40 Fionn wrote:
On February 08 2012 06:39 Demorase wrote:
A player of his caliber should have won a GSL by now, especially during the early days of SC2 when terran was much stronger, the GSL was his for the taking all it took was a bunker rush and good micro back then. And yet, all he's managed to get in a whole year and a half is a quarter finals.

I think Nada's playstyle is way too passive, it might have worked in SC1 but in SC2 terran is an aggressive race, and his playstyle is completely unadapted. He's got a lot of work cut out for him if he wants to win a GSL, he needs to rework his entire playstyle.


I think Nada had a great shot at winning GSL May, but then Inca cheesed him to death and we never got the epic finals of Nada vs. Nestea.

Oh Inca.



You can't blame Inca for abusing Nada's passivity, if Inca managed to exploit it so easily I don't see how Nada would have won a best of 7 in the finals anyway.

No, the problem is his playstyle, he plays Terran like Protoss, sitting forever macroing defending without ever attacking, except unlike Protoss he can't get a powerful death ball that can win in a straight battle maxed out. His playstyle makes no sense for Terran in SC2.


Have you watched his stream? That isn't his playstyle at all. Maybe it was once upon a time, but just because it was once doesn't mean it is now. He does all the standard Terran harrassment: banshees, hellions, drops etc and timing attacks too.

He also remains one of the most consistent players in SC2 just like he was in BW, so it's a tough argument to say that his playstyle was failing badly at any one point. Admittedly his win ratio has never been exceptional, but it's definitely been consistently decent.



Nada is extremely passive, he will NEVER be willing to risk it all on an all-in for example, and that's his Achilles heel. Everybody in the GSL knows it, he's no threat in the early-mid game, and everybody knows how to exploit his passivity by either cheesing him or outmacroing him by expanding more.

He's like Idra a year ago, except Idra is aware of it and has worked a lot to be less predictable, whereas Nada has made virtually no adjustement. And Idra plays a more passive race, and even then his passivity was a problem, let alone for a Terran.
cristo1122
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia505 Posts
February 07 2012 22:17 GMT
#639
On February 07 2012 20:03 pycho wrote:
"i want new challenges" - progamers "i want more money"


he already pretty well off so i would say this is not the case
ZvP imbalanced blizzards solution nerf terran
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
February 07 2012 22:20 GMT
#640
On February 08 2012 06:00 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 05:53 Al Bundy wrote:
So it seems that sc2 life is all about money.


There, fixed that for you.

Sorry, you're right, I should have explained my opinion in a more detailed fashion.
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