On February 04 2012 05:17 SniXSniPe wrote:
They should just make all their players stream.

Easy way to get a little bit of money, as we know Korean streamers tend to pull viewers easily enough.

This, i never saw Zenex playe stream, i admit im not to active on checking stream but i saw ST, IM , slayers ... etc player stream a few times

procyonlotor

Italy473 Posts

February 03 2012 21:22 GMT

#142

If I were a rich man I would shower ZeNEX with money. As it is, their best bet seems to be learning how to market themselves. They really need to put themselves out there whether it is through interviews, blogs, contests, whatever. The more people know about ZeNEX and the great players they produce the better, and I know of no way to attract attention than to offer content people will want to consume.

Heimatloser

Germany1494 Posts

February 03 2012 21:22 GMT

#143

ZeNexGeniuses?
First has the talent, second the money.
I just dont see how this should help zenex

Ricemagical

270 Posts

February 03 2012 21:24 GMT

#144

On February 04 2012 06:17 Aterons_toss wrote:

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This, i never saw Zenex playe stream, i admit im not to active on checking stream but i saw ST, IM , slayers ... etc player stream a few times

I remember a period of about a month where zenexbyun and hack regularly streamed with coca and puzzle streaming every once in while (puzzle streamed like 18 hours in a day at one point) but I guess they stopped after those players got snatched.

pPingu

Switzerland2892 Posts

February 03 2012 21:26 GMT

#145

On February 04 2012 06:17 Aterons_toss wrote:

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This, i never saw Zenex playe stream, i admit im not to active on checking stream but i saw ST, IM , slayers ... etc player stream a few times

Actually, Zenex was one of the first team to have their players stream, it was a long time ago but byun, hack and puzzle streamed for a bit (well the guy over me said it, and I forgot coca)

They should maybe start again but many good players have not a lot of viewers for some reasons

WigglingSquid

5194 Posts

February 03 2012 21:27 GMT

#146

On February 04 2012 05:17 SniXSniPe wrote:
They should just make all their players stream.

Easy way to get a little bit of money, as we know Korean streamers tend to pull viewers easily enough.

Unknown/unhyped korean players routinely get a few hundreds viewers, at max. Not really that profitable.

They should maybe start again but many good players have not a lot of viewers for some reasons

Meh, the reason is that fan support is mostly built up by popularity, be it by hype or "seniority"/personality. Not that strange, I fear.

Eee

Sweden2712 Posts

February 03 2012 21:27 GMT

#147

As people have mentioned earlier, you need to make lots of content. Streaming, Videos, Pictures. I'd suggest you ask if someone who knows english and korean well can help you and run an official facebook site for you where you can upload pictures of various team events, videos and updates. A good example for you guys would be something like the SlayerS facebook, with pictures of them playing football, eating together, and ryungs pictures of MMA. If you produce interesting/funny content you will probably be able to reach the mass, and by them reach the sponsors.

SupLilSon

Malaysia4123 Posts

February 03 2012 21:30 GMT

#148

I hope this doesn't come off as rude but I think ZeNex needs to employ someone who has a better grasp of the English language to do their posts. Obviously everything was perfectly understandable but Team Liquid forum members aren't exactly the target audience if you're trying to obtain legitimate sponsors. The OP with it's broken English would be a huge turnoff if I were a sponsor. Again, I understand many people don't have extensive educations in English but ZeNex is obviously looking for a foreign sponsor (or they wouldnt have posted here) so they should try and find someone who can communicate professionally.

Good Luck ZeNex, I hope you guys regain some of your former strength !

Dattish

Sweden6297 Posts

February 03 2012 21:30 GMT

#149

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Mohdoo

United States15743 Posts

February 03 2012 21:42 GMT

#150

Koreans aren't good at getting viewers though. Even the Koreans who are 100x better than our streamers get 1/10th the viewers because they don't say goofy or obnoxious things. Its sad the sorts of things that must people look for in a stream to watch

RusHXceL

United States1004 Posts

February 03 2012 21:43 GMT

#151

I'll be "THE THING" lol

SupLilSon

Malaysia4123 Posts

February 03 2012 21:49 GMT

#152

On February 04 2012 06:42 Mohdoo wrote:
Koreans aren't good at getting viewers though. Even the Koreans who are 100x better than our streamers get 1/10th the viewers because they don't say goofy or obnoxious things. Its sad the sorts of things that must people look for in a stream to watch

It's because they don't interact with the chat and run 3 commercials in a row as often as possible. Polt and Dragon get a minimum of 2k viewers whenever they are on. Dragon is definitely goofy and that certainly helps draw viewers but Polt isn't really goofy, he just actually responds and chats to the viewers. People are looking for entertainment as much as for skill in a stream. Remember, not everyone watching streams is aspiring to be a pro.

Talin

Montenegro10532 Posts

February 03 2012 21:50 GMT

#153

On February 04 2012 06:30 SupLilSon wrote:
I hope this doesn't come off as rude but I think ZeNex needs to employ someone who has a better grasp of the English language to do their posts. Obviously everything was perfectly understandable but Team Liquid forum members aren't exactly the target audience if you're trying to obtain legitimate sponsors. The OP with it's broken English would be a huge turnoff if I were a sponsor.

Do you really think a team that has to do these kinds of posts is in a position to employ somebody just to write things in proper English for them?

Since so many western sponsors proclaim to have a boundless passion and undying love for esports, I'm sure they're willing to overlook the quality of the post and pitch right in. + Show Spoiler +

Sarcasm by the way.

Bagration

United States18282 Posts

February 03 2012 21:56 GMT

#154

On February 04 2012 01:44 VirgilSC2 wrote:
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Go ZeNEX!

This image has done so much good for Zenex. Sure, it's all meant to be humourous, but the image has spread through the community and TL like a epidemic. Before, people thinking of Zenex might have gone, "who?" or "Wasn't that Puzzle, Coca and Byun's old team?" But now, they think of Zenex as the team with the ripped asian guy, huge sunglasses guy, and the badass team captain that is too badass to stand facing the camera, instead standing perpendicular because he is too badass. Badass

What I am saying is that there have been a lot of posts in this thread about people wanting to donate money to, or sponsor Zenex. What about a community-owned team? If reddit can afford to send MKP to MLG Orlando, and ONOG can afford to run a 3k tournament, is it not possible for the community to sponsor Zenex through donations? As a community funded team, Zenex would have a greater obligation to its fans/owners.

Of course, there is the problem of maintaining sponsorship and keeping the community invested, as well as how much control to give the community over the team, etc.

imperator-xy

Germany1377 Posts

February 03 2012 22:04 GMT

#155

zenex fighting!!!

Mortal

2943 Posts

February 03 2012 22:06 GMT

#156

Well, good luck, but it's a seeming monstrous task to crawl out of such a hole. Zenex has hardly any talent anymore, and clearly is hurting for aid. While they may have fallen out of favor, it would be interesting to see them back in form soon.

Soleron

United Kingdom1324 Posts

February 03 2012 22:08 GMT

#157

Of course, there is the problem of maintaining sponsorship and keeping the community invested, as well as how much control to give the community over the team, etc.

Ignoring all else, I don't think a player could live on less than $5,000 (super lowballed and ignoring all other costs) even in a Korean teamhouse environment. If Zenex is to have 10 active players, a coach, and a manager the "community" would need to raise a LOT of money every year.

Lumi

United States1616 Posts

February 03 2012 22:09 GMT

#158

We should get a ZeNEX team banner picture edited into the OP