EPTStephano forfeits ONOG Finals - Page 67
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rekoJ
Afghanistan106 Posts
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
And as long as there are muppets which call such behaviour "normal" or even better, blame the tournament because they cant accept that their "idol" screwed up (scheduling etc), well.. I dont think that the western eSports-scene will ever be taken serious if kids can do what they want. And im sorry, Stephano is just that. A (well playing, no question) kid. But far away from a professional. They punished Naniwa severly for being unprofessional, that should happen here as well. In german Bundesliga (soccer-"ladder", prime division), if a player is un"fair" (not the exact word, its called "unsportliches Verhalten" - like "bad behaviour/mannered"), he can be penalized with not being allowed on the grass for some games. eSport really needs that. Not like Kespa, but regulations. Strict regulations, with penalties, so players (and ofc organisations/tour-orgas) cant just do what they want. Because in the end, being professional is not about what you want, but about what you have to do. And if you sign into two tournaments, you simply have to play them. If you screw up, at least apologize for that to your fans and the organisation. Take responsibility, looks alot better than being a spoiled brat which doesnt give a shit. In that regard, i can understand the ppl calling him arrogant prick or douchbag and whatever was said here. | ||
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
Unless its a us tournament. How old is the guy? Try and get your parents to understand that on the other end of a computer is *real* people | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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SpinmovE
Canada119 Posts
On February 01 2012 04:06 MrTortoise wrote: 2:30am is a bit late to ask someone to play don't you think? Unless its a us tournament. How old is the guy? Try and get your parents to understand that on the other end of a computer is *real* people You think the parents of a player that has won tens of thousands of dollars playing starcraft 2 wouldn't be able to understand that the finals of a tournament are important? | ||
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AfricanPsycho
South Africa158 Posts
Although Stephano is a better player than CatZ, CatZ showed more hart and class and that is what should be respected and rewarded. Stephano has showed a real lack of character here and I feel it reflects poorly on everyone in the SC2 community. | ||
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Testuser
6469 Posts
Also it has happened before. I remember seeing Stephano play in the FXOpen, and while he was on winning streak (I think it was 6 in a row?) he asked the admins if he could quit, since he was feeling exhausted. He was allowed to do that, and life went on. Now yes, that wasn't the finals, and that's still "a sad story", but I think that if he needs to rest, he should. Really, if Stephano had been your friend, and you had been sitting besides him, seen him play 12 hours that day, and at 2:30 am he is STILL playing and now on to playing a Bo5 vs Kas, what would you think? I bet that you wouldn't tell him to continue playing. To all the people whining about "professional" sportsmen that keeps fighting even if their arms and legs are broken, that's still fucking stupid, sorry to say. YOU as a spectator might enjoy it, and even they might, but I assure you that the people that care about them don't. Also this wasn't the GSL, this was a new started tournament which did mean an awful lot (no offense to you ONOG). Berate Stephano about his scheduling, because it IS stupid that he books himself for two tournaments, but guys, I think he left for a fucking reason. | ||
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AfricanPsycho
South Africa158 Posts
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
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kaup
Germany22 Posts
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xsevR
United States324 Posts
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On February 01 2012 04:26 kaup wrote: its ok to forfeit if u dont want to play at this time , i forfeitet some cups too becouse it was me too late or only the worsest maps,rules and mappool i ever saw (ger team quali) ~ Err.. Your argument is that because it's ok for you to forfeit, that makes it fine for Stephano as well. For this to work, you would need to be a more exceptional case than that of Stephano (K < S) and widely accepted in the community as being right to forfeit. I'm sorry. | ||
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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
To say this is the responsibility of the tournament directors is just ridiculous. No event revolves their schedule around one player. They aren't the ones issuing the ultimatum; Stephano is. If I am one of the organizers, I would be pretty damn pissed. What Stephano has showed is his lack of professionalism and respect for tournaments. Here's a red mushroom, you'll need it. | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On February 01 2012 04:32 Ghanburighan wrote: Err.. Your argument is that because it's ok for you to forfeit, that makes it fine for Stephano as well. For this to work, you would need to be a more exceptional case than that of Stephano (K < S) and widely accepted in the community as being right to forfeit. I'm sorry. He's saying he thinks it's ok to forfeit, and that he has done som himself. You seem to have a problem grasping what a "opinion" is. | ||
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Auren
United States82 Posts
On February 01 2012 04:24 s4life wrote: Is this still going on? I wouldn't be surprised if some people went full retard over this and tried to justify Stephano's actions. He deserves a few bans in the next LAN tournaments imho. You probably shouldn't read the thread lol. There were some people even praising him for it and saying they gained respect for him for forfeiting the finals of a tournament. | ||
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ClanWISH
Canada21 Posts
just goes to show how spoiled eu/us players are, they think they are hot sh.it , but they have no manners | ||
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magnaflow
Canada1521 Posts
On February 01 2012 04:36 ilikeredheads wrote: I don't get all the people defending Stephano. Let this put this into perspective. Stephano is a progamer, as in PROFESSIONAL gamer. This is part of his job. Too say you too tired to play in a tournament (finals, no less) is just unacceptable. If a professional athlete says he is too damned tired to play, how would his team, or the fans feel?? Or let's put it this way, if you said the same thing to your boss, you would be told not to come back to work tomorrow. To say this is the responsibility of the tournament directors is just ridiculous. No event revolves their schedule around one player. They aren't the ones issuing the ultimatum; Stephano is. If I am one of the organizers, I would be pretty damn pissed. What Stephano has showed is his lack of professionalism and respect for tournaments. Here's a red mushroom, you'll need it. Who gave him the title "professional"? As far as I can tell this is just some kid who is good at the game trying to make some money to secure his futue profession. | ||
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AfricanPsycho
South Africa158 Posts
So with simple logic tournament producers are paying to provide entertainment, therefore by stephano not playing he is screwing both the fans and tournament producer. Its not about whos best its about providing quality games. Stephano you are a selfish weak person and IMO unwelcome to Esports. | ||
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sOOnMaNiAc
Germany57 Posts
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On February 01 2012 04:40 ClanWISH wrote: pro gamer and u dont have time for a tourney, it shouldnt matter that he played all day, would u ever see a korean pull something like this? just goes to show how spoiled eu/us players are, they think they are hot sh.it , but they have no manners Like Polt did yesterday in the Zotac finals? | ||
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