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Stephano forfeits ONOG Finals - Page 2

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Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
January 30 2012 20:48 GMT
#21
On January 31 2012 05:45 aDd3z wrote:
well he won the semis...i dont understand why he dosnt get second place.


Because he screwed the tournament creators out of the most important match of the entire tournament. Because he had made too many commitments. It's Stephanos fault, it seems the tournament creators did basically everything they could to accomodate him, and even so, he screwed them over.
Flaf?
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
January 30 2012 20:48 GMT
#22
This topic was already discussed to bits in the tournament thread, you should all start by reading it.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
ohmkerg
Profile Joined November 2011
United States102 Posts
January 30 2012 20:48 GMT
#23
On January 31 2012 05:46 Herculix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 05:45 ohmkerg wrote:
wow stephano sounds like a douche


actually he sounds like he had an unintended scheduling conflict...


going to bed is an unintended scheduling conflict?
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
January 30 2012 20:48 GMT
#24
Same as naniwa. I still think he is a really great player, but he should have played the games; i lost a lot of the respect I had for him. Nice of ONOG to move him 4th and play semi and finals this way. Good thinking here
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
January 30 2012 20:49 GMT
#25
He overbooked himself for a weekend, and then decided he would no longer be able to play in the finals. He hasn't even objected to being DQ'd, and seems to have accepted it as fair. It sucks for ONOG, but a player should absolutely be allowed to forfeit a match they don't feel they're able to play.
aka ilovesharkpeople
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
January 30 2012 20:49 GMT
#26
Oh how we all seem to love drama lol, so much in fact, that it has to be on the front page of TL
Bit disappointing tbh
I have no quote!
thegreatpiata
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada54 Posts
January 30 2012 20:49 GMT
#27
It's unfortunate but if Stephano wants to forfeit his match then that's his choice. This is really being made into a bigger deal than it needs to be.
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
January 30 2012 20:49 GMT
#28
On January 31 2012 05:46 Ruscour wrote:
I like the idea of moving him to 4th so they can have a real final.

Ehh... I don't know. It seems a bit unfair to move him from the spot he earned, even if he forfeited. Technically he could have played the games and just done what Nani did, right?

Plus, Kas shouldn't have to play someone who was already knocked out to win the tourney. Since the opponent was Illusion, I guess it wasn't that big of a deal. However, what if Stephano had knocked out someone like Huk? Suddenly Kas would be put into a really shitty position where he could lose to someone who isn't even supposed to be in the tourney anymore.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 20:50:11
January 30 2012 20:49 GMT
#29
On January 31 2012 05:46 cyclone25 wrote:
What is the purpose of this thread? The incident has been discussed a lot on the ONOG thread.

The purpose of the thread is to provide information that summarizes a bunch of sources. Do you really feel its more appropriate for users to dig through 200+ pages to find information in a live report thread? Besides, this thread includes information and links that you can't find in the ONOG LR thread anyway.

Since when is more information, especially information that is easily accessible, and reporting with actual sources a bad thing?
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checkSIX
Profile Joined November 2011
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 20:51:01
January 30 2012 20:49 GMT
#30
It was 2.30 AM and stephano had to be in school at 8.00, so if he would wait for 3rd place finishers and then play long finals he could go sleep at best at about 5.00-6.00 and he would only get 1-2 hours of sleep. He is only a human being after all and he needs to sleep. I feel like he didn't do anything wrong and that he's being wrongly accused of being BM.
demitap
Profile Joined November 2011
Lithuania143 Posts
January 30 2012 20:50 GMT
#31
i dont see why peaople thinks this is wrong?

Come on, Stephano is French if you know what i mean, srsly.

User was temp banned for this post.
ZergX
Profile Joined October 2010
France436 Posts
January 30 2012 20:50 GMT
#32
On January 31 2012 05:44 CaM27 wrote:
So what? What is the problem? Fanboys gonna cry, haters gonna hate and tomorrow gonna be another day? Sigh :/


haha yess man ! +1 ;D

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JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
January 30 2012 20:50 GMT
#33
Yeah I can't support Stephanos decision to forfeit the match... If you are going to forfeit then don't let them run late on your behalf and then tell them that it is to late and that you will forfeit. That is just bad manners,
blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
January 30 2012 20:51 GMT
#34
I have never thought of stephano as a humble player judging from his past actions. Forfeiting this tournament because he was tired certainly doesn't help him.
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 20:52:05
January 30 2012 20:51 GMT
#35
He spent $1350 to go to sleep, I think the kid was tired.

He stated to them, immediately after the semi's, that he couldn't stay up any longer. He could have feined illness, or internet dropout.. but he didn't.

Only he knows how he felt, and he felt he couldn't play on, even though he was going to probably win $1500.

His sin is he over-committed, and was so good he got the the finals of both tournaments. This isn't a problem for anyone else, if he lost occasionally, or lied, he'd be better off.

Enjoy Stephano while you got him SC2.... drama and all.


K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
January 30 2012 20:51 GMT
#36
I honestly think Stephano should've apologized. It might be a small tournament for him but it took a lot of time and money for them to organize it.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
January 30 2012 20:51 GMT
#37
On January 31 2012 05:49 checkSIX wrote:
It was 2.30 AM and stephano had to be in school at 8.00, so if he would wait for 3rd place finishers and then play long finals he could go sleep at best at about 5.00-6.00 and he would only get 1-2 hours of sleep. He is only a human being after all and he needs to sleep. I feel like he didn't do anything wrong and that he's being wrongly accused of being BM.


I believe stephano doesn't go to school
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
January 30 2012 20:51 GMT
#38
I don't see what the big deal is. It is unfortunate that Stephano felt unable to compete and perhaps slightly unprofessional depending on how exactly he communicated this and what the time schedule planned ahead of the event was. None the less, he told the tournament organizers that he couldn't do it that day and chose to forfeit if accommodations couldn't be made. The tournament decided they couldn't change the schedule, so he forfeits and his place goes to the next highest placing player. Seems pretty reasonable on all accounts.
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
January 30 2012 20:52 GMT
#39
On January 31 2012 05:50 demitap wrote:
i dont see why peaople thinks this is wrong?

Come on, Stephano is French if you know what i mean, srsly.

Nope, I don't know what you mean nor does anyone with a brain. Come on...
Cha1R
Profile Joined November 2010
United States221 Posts
January 30 2012 20:52 GMT
#40
What a joke. If every player blew off tournaments like Stephano did this one, we would never have any real finals.
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