• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:17
CEST 16:17
KST 23:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy2GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding3Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. BW General Discussion Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro24 Group F [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1747 users

Stephano forfeits ONOG Finals - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
1731 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 85 86 87 Next
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
January 30 2012 20:48 GMT
#21
On January 31 2012 05:45 aDd3z wrote:
well he won the semis...i dont understand why he dosnt get second place.


Because he screwed the tournament creators out of the most important match of the entire tournament. Because he had made too many commitments. It's Stephanos fault, it seems the tournament creators did basically everything they could to accomodate him, and even so, he screwed them over.
Flaf?
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
January 30 2012 20:48 GMT
#22
This topic was already discussed to bits in the tournament thread, you should all start by reading it.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
ohmkerg
Profile Joined November 2011
United States102 Posts
January 30 2012 20:48 GMT
#23
On January 31 2012 05:46 Herculix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 05:45 ohmkerg wrote:
wow stephano sounds like a douche


actually he sounds like he had an unintended scheduling conflict...


going to bed is an unintended scheduling conflict?
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
January 30 2012 20:48 GMT
#24
Same as naniwa. I still think he is a really great player, but he should have played the games; i lost a lot of the respect I had for him. Nice of ONOG to move him 4th and play semi and finals this way. Good thinking here
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
January 30 2012 20:49 GMT
#25
He overbooked himself for a weekend, and then decided he would no longer be able to play in the finals. He hasn't even objected to being DQ'd, and seems to have accepted it as fair. It sucks for ONOG, but a player should absolutely be allowed to forfeit a match they don't feel they're able to play.
aka ilovesharkpeople
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
January 30 2012 20:49 GMT
#26
Oh how we all seem to love drama lol, so much in fact, that it has to be on the front page of TL
Bit disappointing tbh
I have no quote!
thegreatpiata
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada54 Posts
January 30 2012 20:49 GMT
#27
It's unfortunate but if Stephano wants to forfeit his match then that's his choice. This is really being made into a bigger deal than it needs to be.
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
January 30 2012 20:49 GMT
#28
On January 31 2012 05:46 Ruscour wrote:
I like the idea of moving him to 4th so they can have a real final.

Ehh... I don't know. It seems a bit unfair to move him from the spot he earned, even if he forfeited. Technically he could have played the games and just done what Nani did, right?

Plus, Kas shouldn't have to play someone who was already knocked out to win the tourney. Since the opponent was Illusion, I guess it wasn't that big of a deal. However, what if Stephano had knocked out someone like Huk? Suddenly Kas would be put into a really shitty position where he could lose to someone who isn't even supposed to be in the tourney anymore.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 20:50:11
January 30 2012 20:49 GMT
#29
On January 31 2012 05:46 cyclone25 wrote:
What is the purpose of this thread? The incident has been discussed a lot on the ONOG thread.

The purpose of the thread is to provide information that summarizes a bunch of sources. Do you really feel its more appropriate for users to dig through 200+ pages to find information in a live report thread? Besides, this thread includes information and links that you can't find in the ONOG LR thread anyway.

Since when is more information, especially information that is easily accessible, and reporting with actual sources a bad thing?
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
checkSIX
Profile Joined November 2011
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 20:51:01
January 30 2012 20:49 GMT
#30
It was 2.30 AM and stephano had to be in school at 8.00, so if he would wait for 3rd place finishers and then play long finals he could go sleep at best at about 5.00-6.00 and he would only get 1-2 hours of sleep. He is only a human being after all and he needs to sleep. I feel like he didn't do anything wrong and that he's being wrongly accused of being BM.
demitap
Profile Joined November 2011
Lithuania143 Posts
January 30 2012 20:50 GMT
#31
i dont see why peaople thinks this is wrong?

Come on, Stephano is French if you know what i mean, srsly.

User was temp banned for this post.
ZergX
Profile Joined October 2010
France436 Posts
January 30 2012 20:50 GMT
#32
On January 31 2012 05:44 CaM27 wrote:
So what? What is the problem? Fanboys gonna cry, haters gonna hate and tomorrow gonna be another day? Sigh :/


haha yess man ! +1 ;D

User was warned for this post
Nestea fightingg ! DRG fightingggg !! Sen fightinggg ! July fighting ! SoO fighting !
JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
January 30 2012 20:50 GMT
#33
Yeah I can't support Stephanos decision to forfeit the match... If you are going to forfeit then don't let them run late on your behalf and then tell them that it is to late and that you will forfeit. That is just bad manners,
blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
January 30 2012 20:51 GMT
#34
I have never thought of stephano as a humble player judging from his past actions. Forfeiting this tournament because he was tired certainly doesn't help him.
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 20:52:05
January 30 2012 20:51 GMT
#35
He spent $1350 to go to sleep, I think the kid was tired.

He stated to them, immediately after the semi's, that he couldn't stay up any longer. He could have feined illness, or internet dropout.. but he didn't.

Only he knows how he felt, and he felt he couldn't play on, even though he was going to probably win $1500.

His sin is he over-committed, and was so good he got the the finals of both tournaments. This isn't a problem for anyone else, if he lost occasionally, or lied, he'd be better off.

Enjoy Stephano while you got him SC2.... drama and all.


K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
January 30 2012 20:51 GMT
#36
I honestly think Stephano should've apologized. It might be a small tournament for him but it took a lot of time and money for them to organize it.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
January 30 2012 20:51 GMT
#37
On January 31 2012 05:49 checkSIX wrote:
It was 2.30 AM and stephano had to be in school at 8.00, so if he would wait for 3rd place finishers and then play long finals he could go sleep at best at about 5.00-6.00 and he would only get 1-2 hours of sleep. He is only a human being after all and he needs to sleep. I feel like he didn't do anything wrong and that he's being wrongly accused of being BM.


I believe stephano doesn't go to school
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
January 30 2012 20:51 GMT
#38
I don't see what the big deal is. It is unfortunate that Stephano felt unable to compete and perhaps slightly unprofessional depending on how exactly he communicated this and what the time schedule planned ahead of the event was. None the less, he told the tournament organizers that he couldn't do it that day and chose to forfeit if accommodations couldn't be made. The tournament decided they couldn't change the schedule, so he forfeits and his place goes to the next highest placing player. Seems pretty reasonable on all accounts.
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
January 30 2012 20:52 GMT
#39
On January 31 2012 05:50 demitap wrote:
i dont see why peaople thinks this is wrong?

Come on, Stephano is French if you know what i mean, srsly.

Nope, I don't know what you mean nor does anyone with a brain. Come on...
Cha1R
Profile Joined November 2010
United States221 Posts
January 30 2012 20:52 GMT
#40
What a joke. If every player blew off tournaments like Stephano did this one, we would never have any real finals.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 85 86 87 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Team League
11:00
Playoffs
WardiTV743
ComeBackTV 479
IndyStarCraft 179
Rex128
3DClanTV 56
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko265
IndyStarCraft 179
Rex 128
Codebar 56
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 47582
Mini 1248
Soma 928
EffOrt 592
Stork 545
Rush 216
ggaemo 196
hero 191
Zeus 179
Snow 169
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 168
Hyuk 141
Shuttle 131
Sharp 102
Shinee 80
Sea.KH 75
sorry 65
Pusan 64
sSak 61
Hyun 61
[sc1f]eonzerg 61
ToSsGirL 50
Barracks 46
Movie 34
Hm[arnc] 31
Free 30
Nal_rA 25
scan(afreeca) 24
yabsab 21
GoRush 21
Sexy 19
Sacsri 19
Terrorterran 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
soO 14
Dota 2
Gorgc3230
qojqva975
420jenkins290
Fuzer 111
Counter-Strike
fl0m2030
edward158
Other Games
singsing2367
B2W.Neo1125
hiko787
Mlord422
crisheroes372
DeMusliM300
RotterdaM263
djWHEAT137
ArmadaUGS135
XaKoH 96
QueenE82
Mew2King35
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL22391
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1539
Other Games
BasetradeTV682
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 8
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota247
League of Legends
• Nemesis2845
• Jankos2046
• TFBlade1016
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
19h 43m
WardiTV Team League
20h 43m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d
IPSL
1d 1h
Hawk vs TBD
StRyKeR vs TBD
BSL
1d 4h
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 19h
WardiTV Team League
1d 20h
OSC
1d 22h
BSL
2 days
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
IPSL
2 days
Artosis vs TBD
Napoleon vs TBD
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs YSC
Sharp vs sSak
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Escore
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-09
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Escore Tournament S2: W2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.