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Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
January 28 2012 14:49 GMT
#561
SeleCT! I hope he gets added soon.
EG | Liquid | Dignitas | FXO | SlayerS | TSL | iS | Fan of pretty much all players ^_^ | SeleCT <3 forever! Axslav <3
XenClamzz
Profile Joined April 2011
United States130 Posts
January 28 2012 14:52 GMT
#562
theres no seleCT? (((??
Sup Son?
krisss
Profile Joined November 2010
Luxembourg305 Posts
January 28 2012 15:10 GMT
#563
On January 28 2012 21:55 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 21:50 Choboo wrote:
On January 28 2012 21:47 Lorch wrote:
On January 28 2012 21:43 Choboo wrote:
On January 28 2012 21:39 Lorch wrote:
On January 28 2012 21:36 Choboo wrote:
On January 28 2012 21:33 Lorch wrote:
You really think that an online cup is harder than an offline tournaments with the worlds best players competing in it? Also if you'd actually watch mlg closely you'd know that the people you mentioned did not just go in 2-3 rounds in an mlg...
So he took a series of a clearly better player? Wow, you do realize how reatardetly young this game is? Just a year ago some random scrup got 3 rounds deep in a gsl by only doing marine/scv allins. Also where did MKP finish at hsc 4? Yeah right a lot higher than delphi, so to say that, even in that tournament, delphi was better than MKP is just straight up wrong, and saying that he is better in general is beyond stupid bro.

If any of those players would ever make it out of the open bracket that might be impressive but just flying to every MLG isn't that impressive IMO. If Delphi would participate in every MLG do you honestly think he would do worse than ThisIsJimmy?


Given that he'd be jetlagged and has about zero expirience in that kind of invorement (playing on the eps stage or at hsc and even playing from home is soooo much different from attending a mlg) yeah I could certainly see him finish worse than thisisjimmy, just based on brackets. Also I hope you know how stupid it is to just flame some random player you don't know much about, compare him to your favorite player who didn't get an invite, and then bitch at mlg about it. MLG probably had a really good reason for not inviting him, I doubt they based their invitations based on online cups and eps tournaments...

I'm not a Delphi fan I'm just sad when people think that an MLG open bracket is more stacked than an online cup.

Here's ThisIsJimmy's mlg providence run:

Beat NamespaceSTD
Beat fdsdfg
Beat Kyoubro
Lost to Shew
Lost to PainUser

Sounds really impressive imo


I never talked about the quality of players I talked about the format, cups are online, mlg is offline and you seem to ignore/not care about the major difference between the two. MKP is pretty damn close to unbeatable if you let him play online, at live events he chockes a lot. MC was even in bw pretty good in practice (thus why MBC kept sending him out) but he had like a 1-10 record in PL thanks to nerves. Being able to perform online/in practice is not even close to equal to being able to perform at live events.

Also I'm not even defending players like jimmy here or calling delphi bad, I just think it's really dumb to pick some player who you think is worse than your favorite player who didn't get an invite and start comparing the two and bitch at mlg for not inviting your favorite players. The list is what it is, and if MLG felt like delphi didn't deserve an invite for whatever reason than thats what it is, that doesn't mean that you need to start bashing other players that you think of as worse. Also atleast pick some EU players because NA invites are based of totally different stats than EU invites.

Location: Germany... You're so incredibly biased I won't even bother arguing with you anymore.


Me being german means I'm biased when I'm not even arguing in favor of the german player? So some korean saying that a foreigner will win the next mlg is also biased? But ah well I'm just glad I don't have to argue anymore about why offline means more than online, the fact that that is even debateable makes me really sad.


the fact, that ur arguing on this level makes me sad.
Instead of blaming the crappy overall system of the "invites", you start an argument why X player is better than y, and why he should have been invited.
There are like 10 users before saying that NOT making this qualifiers open to all is just just ridiculous. And even MLG agrees.

What i dont understand, if everyone agrees on that matter is, why they dont change the format? I mean for a professional organization it cant be that hard to switch from a closed to an open qualifier in those remaining days.
IMHO they still have not learnt the lession from last year, and still want the same old (well.known) ppl again and again. Probably they think its more profit that way.
life is like fighting a dinosaur.. it's pretty hard.
Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
January 28 2012 15:17 GMT
#564
goog Naama.
WhiteRa being bad ass and playing on Korean one
(V) (;,,;) (V) Woopwoopwoopwoop
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
January 28 2012 15:25 GMT
#565
On January 28 2012 23:49 Engore wrote:
SeleCT! I hope he gets added soon.


SeleCT will not be added, he will be at Assembly.
Get.Midikem
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden312 Posts
January 28 2012 15:27 GMT
#566
Dont understand why some european players are in north america and some are in europe. And white-ra on korean?
RicochetSEA
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia31 Posts
January 28 2012 15:36 GMT
#567
Hope to see MKP and Bomber at MLG!!!
Also GL to Moonglade, he's got a LONG road to travel to get a spot to MLG
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 28 2012 15:36 GMT
#568
Europe is lacking players. Too bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Apoth
Profile Joined May 2010
England194 Posts
January 28 2012 15:44 GMT
#569
Why are MorroW and Naama American?
trombonomophonononononononone
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 28 2012 15:46 GMT
#570
On January 29 2012 00:44 Apoth wrote:
Why are MorroW and Naama American?

You can chose which region you want to qualify in.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 28 2012 15:49 GMT
#571
With Stephano, Nerchio and Mana missing, my interest in following this event dropped a lot. They are definitely top 5 foreigner players and also some of the very few who did well vs koreans in past.

People thought that Assembly got screwed by this schedule conflict ... not true.
I can only hope that MLG won't ignore the other big events next time they schedule their online qualifiers.
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
January 28 2012 16:14 GMT
#572
Go Foxer is what I can say
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12413 Posts
January 28 2012 16:21 GMT
#573
epic korean line up, this is gonna be awesome
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Ventez
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway107 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 16:22:25
January 28 2012 16:22 GMT
#574
I'll be rooting for the Tyler! Hopefully we get some zergs in from NA as well.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
January 28 2012 16:37 GMT
#575
I'm going to do everyone a favour and go through the entire NA list and explain where people are having issues:

Slush- Fine. He's managed to take at least a few wins in recent MLGs
Kiwikai- Fine. He beat Stephano and performed well at the beginning of last year as well.
Rain- Obviously fine.
Sheth- Fine. Solid player with consistent results.
Incontrol- No. This guy does not deserve to be invited. I love Incontrol on SotG, but he only did well in like 1 MLG and it was the one at which the level of competition was very low. I know well over 15 unknown players that are 3-0+ against Incontrol on ladder. I don't know why MLG keeps riding on his results from a year ago. Again, no personal hatred against him; he's great for the community but doesn't deserve this invite.
Machine- Maybe. Hasn't won anything against anyone notable in a long time, but did manage to get a win or two at recent MLGs. On the edge of qualification.
Drewbie- Fine. He won an open bracket fairly recently.
Tyler- I'm probably going to take a lot of flak for saying that if Tyler wasn't "known" there's absolutely no way he'd get this spot. He got eliminated from the open bracket at the last MLG after a string of bottom finishes in his group. Again, Sc2 icon and a cool guy, but I don't think he's competitive right now.
KR- Fine.
Vibe- Meh.
Demuslim- Fine.
Sase- Fine.
Trimaster- Fine; beat Idra at MLG awhile ago.
QXC- Fine.
Artist- Fine.
Mihai- No. Essentially no accomplishments since MLG Dallas.
DDoro- Fine.
Illusion- Fine.
Agh- No idea why he's being invited.
ThisisJimmy- No. Again, making it to the third round in the open bracket and being somewhat popular on youtube does not a top-tier player make.
WBC- Fine.
DDE- Yeah, okay.
OptikZero- Dunno; basically know nothing about him.
State- Probably on the edge.
Inori- Fine.
LzGamer- No. Guy hasn't done anything recently and got knocked out of the open bracket. Has literally not won anything in the longest time.
KingSpades- Rofl,I think this guy is overrated but I guess inviting underdogs is okay.
Hawk- Lol, no.
Gowswer- Yeah.
Axslav- Meh. No results.
Ostojiy- Okay.
Attero- Don't get this one. I guess he's a popular streamer?
Morrow- Okay.
Naama- Fine.
Stalife- God no.
Catz- Fine.
TT1- Fine.
Killer- Fine.
Minigun- I guess?

I hope I've managed to hit most of the players that people have trouble seeing as having anything but a massive longshot at even getting top 10 in this tournament.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
January 28 2012 16:43 GMT
#576
On January 29 2012 00:44 Apoth wrote:
Why are MorroW and Naama American?

They are in Korea and Kr->Eu lag is horrible
SaSe fan club manager
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 16:51:31
January 28 2012 16:47 GMT
#577
On January 29 2012 01:37 Shiori wrote:
I'm going to do everyone a favour and go through the entire NA list and explain where people are having issues:

Slush- Fine. He's managed to take at least a few wins in recent MLGs
Kiwikai- Fine. He beat Stephano and performed well at the beginning of last year as well.
Rain- Obviously fine.
Sheth- Fine. Solid player with consistent results.
Incontrol- No. This guy does not deserve to be invited. I love Incontrol on SotG, but he only did well in like 1 MLG and it was the one at which the level of competition was very low. I know well over 15 unknown players that are 3-0+ against Incontrol on ladder. I don't know why MLG keeps riding on his results from a year ago. Again, no personal hatred against him; he's great for the community but doesn't deserve this invite.
Machine- Maybe. Hasn't won anything against anyone notable in a long time, but did manage to get a win or two at recent MLGs. On the edge of qualification.
Drewbie- Fine. He won an open bracket fairly recently.
Tyler- I'm probably going to take a lot of flak for saying that if Tyler wasn't "known" there's absolutely no way he'd get this spot. He got eliminated from the open bracket at the last MLG after a string of bottom finishes in his group. Again, Sc2 icon and a cool guy, but I don't think he's competitive right now.
KR- Fine.
Vibe- Meh.
Demuslim- Fine.
Sase- Fine.
Trimaster- Fine; beat Idra at MLG awhile ago.
QXC- Fine.
Artist- Fine.
Mihai- No. Essentially no accomplishments since MLG Dallas.
DDoro- Fine.
Illusion- Fine.
Agh- No idea why he's being invited.
ThisisJimmy- No. Again, making it to the third round in the open bracket and being somewhat popular on youtube does not a top-tier player make.
WBC- Fine.
DDE- Yeah, okay.
OptikZero- Dunno; basically know nothing about him.
State- Probably on the edge.
Inori- Fine.
LzGamer- No. Guy hasn't done anything recently and got knocked out of the open bracket. Has literally not won anything in the longest time.
KingSpades- Rofl,I think this guy is overrated but I guess inviting underdogs is okay.
Hawk- Lol, no.
Gowswer- Yeah.
Axslav- Meh. No results.
Ostojiy- Okay.
Attero- Don't get this one. I guess he's a popular streamer?
Morrow- Okay.
Naama- Fine.
Stalife- God no.
Catz- Fine.
TT1- Fine.
Killer- Fine.
Minigun- I guess?

I hope I've managed to hit most of the players that people have trouble seeing as having anything but a massive longshot at even getting top 10 in this tournament.

Do everyone a favour? You mean, you just want to insult players (with questionable interpretation). If that makes you happy...
Let MLG do what they want. It's not like they made something horrible wrong that we need to complain about. It's just pointless arguable "pontly shittering" (ok, i guess that saying doesn't work in english...)
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
January 28 2012 16:49 GMT
#578
On January 29 2012 01:37 Shiori wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm going to do everyone a favour and go through the entire NA list and explain where people are having issues:

Slush- Fine. He's managed to take at least a few wins in recent MLGs
Kiwikai- Fine. He beat Stephano and performed well at the beginning of last year as well.
Rain- Obviously fine.
Sheth- Fine. Solid player with consistent results.
Incontrol- No. This guy does not deserve to be invited. I love Incontrol on SotG, but he only did well in like 1 MLG and it was the one at which the level of competition was very low. I know well over 15 unknown players that are 3-0+ against Incontrol on ladder. I don't know why MLG keeps riding on his results from a year ago. Again, no personal hatred against him; he's great for the community but doesn't deserve this invite.
Machine- Maybe. Hasn't won anything against anyone notable in a long time, but did manage to get a win or two at recent MLGs. On the edge of qualification.
Drewbie- Fine. He won an open bracket fairly recently.
Tyler- I'm probably going to take a lot of flak for saying that if Tyler wasn't "known" there's absolutely no way he'd get this spot. He got eliminated from the open bracket at the last MLG after a string of bottom finishes in his group. Again, Sc2 icon and a cool guy, but I don't think he's competitive right now.
KR- Fine.
Vibe- Meh.
Demuslim- Fine.
Sase- Fine.
Trimaster- Fine; beat Idra at MLG awhile ago.
QXC- Fine.
Artist- Fine.
Mihai- No. Essentially no accomplishments since MLG Dallas.
DDoro- Fine.
Illusion- Fine.
Agh- No idea why he's being invited.
ThisisJimmy- No. Again, making it to the third round in the open bracket and being somewhat popular on youtube does not a top-tier player make.
WBC- Fine.
DDE- Yeah, okay.
OptikZero- Dunno; basically know nothing about him.
State- Probably on the edge.
Inori- Fine.
LzGamer- No. Guy hasn't done anything recently and got knocked out of the open bracket. Has literally not won anything in the longest time.
KingSpades- Rofl,I think this guy is overrated but I guess inviting underdogs is okay.
Hawk- Lol, no.
Gowswer- Yeah.
Axslav- Meh. No results.
Ostojiy- Okay.
Attero- Don't get this one. I guess he's a popular streamer?
Morrow- Okay.
Naama- Fine.
Stalife- God no.
Catz- Fine.
TT1- Fine.
Killer- Fine.
Minigun- I guess?

I hope I've managed to hit most of the players that people have trouble seeing as having anything but a massive longshot at even getting top 10 in this tournament.



just out of curiosity, when you keep saying 'dunno why _____ is getting invited' who would you invite instead?
Ok not all of them are amazing players, but there arent enough players to have a tournament of only amazing players - unless its like a 10 man tournament or something

also youre stupid for saying ok to trimaster just cos he beat idra at an mlg a while ago. At that time, incontrol would take games off idra all the time in practice, and yet this guy beating idra once is enough to get him invited, but incontrol doesnt deserve it?

so glad axslavs there, hope he qualifies hes an awesome player
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 16:56:33
January 28 2012 16:52 GMT
#579
DAMN SON!
Literally EVERYONE is gonna be at this MLG!

GOGO IMMVP & SLAYERS
GOGO VILEILLUSION & VILESTATE
GOGO LIQUIDTYLER!!!!
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 28 2012 16:53 GMT
#580
On January 29 2012 01:37 Shiori wrote:
I'm going to do everyone a favour and go through the entire NA list and explain where people are having issues:

Slush- Fine. He's managed to take at least a few wins in recent MLGs
Kiwikai- Fine. He beat Stephano and performed well at the beginning of last year as well.
Rain- Obviously fine.
Sheth- Fine. Solid player with consistent results.
Incontrol- No. This guy does not deserve to be invited. I love Incontrol on SotG, but he only did well in like 1 MLG and it was the one at which the level of competition was very low. I know well over 15 unknown players that are 3-0+ against Incontrol on ladder. I don't know why MLG keeps riding on his results from a year ago. Again, no personal hatred against him; he's great for the community but doesn't deserve this invite.
Machine- Maybe. Hasn't won anything against anyone notable in a long time, but did manage to get a win or two at recent MLGs. On the edge of qualification.
Drewbie- Fine. He won an open bracket fairly recently.
Tyler- I'm probably going to take a lot of flak for saying that if Tyler wasn't "known" there's absolutely no way he'd get this spot. He got eliminated from the open bracket at the last MLG after a string of bottom finishes in his group. Again, Sc2 icon and a cool guy, but I don't think he's competitive right now.
KR- Fine.
Vibe- Meh.
Demuslim- Fine.
Sase- Fine.
Trimaster- Fine; beat Idra at MLG awhile ago.
QXC- Fine.
Artist- Fine.
Mihai- No. Essentially no accomplishments since MLG Dallas.
DDoro- Fine.
Illusion- Fine.
Agh- No idea why he's being invited.
ThisisJimmy- No. Again, making it to the third round in the open bracket and being somewhat popular on youtube does not a top-tier player make.
WBC- Fine.
DDE- Yeah, okay.
OptikZero- Dunno; basically know nothing about him.
State- Probably on the edge.
Inori- Fine.
LzGamer- No. Guy hasn't done anything recently and got knocked out of the open bracket. Has literally not won anything in the longest time.
KingSpades- Rofl,I think this guy is overrated but I guess inviting underdogs is okay.
Hawk- Lol, no.
Gowswer- Yeah.
Axslav- Meh. No results.
Ostojiy- Okay.
Attero- Don't get this one. I guess he's a popular streamer?
Morrow- Okay.
Naama- Fine.
Stalife- God no.
Catz- Fine.
TT1- Fine.
Killer- Fine.
Minigun- I guess?

I hope I've managed to hit most of the players that people have trouble seeing as having anything but a massive longshot at even getting top 10 in this tournament.


In some areas you're right, but it doesn't compensate how wrong you are in so many. Attero is not just a popular streamer, do your homework.

WBC as well, a bit more than just "fine"
thisisjimmy got to championship bracket and defeated major opponents at Anaheim. Again, you look silly now.

Seriously, quit while you're ahead.
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