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On January 29 2012 02:53 goswser wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 02:06 Shiori wrote: I used "fine" in the literal sense of the word, as in, I have no problem with that player being there. Again, I'm not insulting players by saying that I don't think they're competitive enough to be there.
TIJ got to the championship bracket where he proceeded to beat Attero 2-1 and then get 2-0'd by Tyler. The only notable player he beat along the way was WBC, as far as I can tell.
I'm trying to point out the grievous problems with forgoing an open qualifier: namely that you're inviting people whose only MLG results have ranged from winning the loser's bracket to getting mildly deep.
But I mean, I'd actually prefer to invite players like TIJ, Attero, and underdogs who have actually had to fight through the open bracket instead of people like LZ/Inc/Tyler who just seem to keep getting seeded. I want MLG to invite players who are in their prime NOW or RECENTLY, not players who did okay a year ago. See the problem? No, you haven't been watching MLG's very much. Tyler has not been doing ok a year ago, he fought his way through one of the open brackets at an MLG, and has also beaten some good players in the championship brackets. Where? The only open bracket I see him making it out of was at Raleigh. Everywhere else in the group stages I'm seeing 0-5.
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On January 29 2012 02:33 The_Stampede wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 02:06 Shiori wrote: I used "fine" in the literal sense of the word, as in, I have no problem with that player being there. Again, I'm not insulting players by saying that I don't think they're competitive enough to be there.
TIJ got to the championship bracket where he proceeded to beat Attero 2-1 and then get 2-0'd by Tyler. The only notable player he beat along the way was WBC, as far as I can tell.
I'm trying to point out the grievous problems with forgoing an open qualifier: namely that you're inviting people whose only MLG results have ranged from winning the loser's bracket to getting mildly deep.
But I mean, I'd actually prefer to invite players like TIJ, Attero, and underdogs who have actually had to fight through the open bracket instead of people like LZ/Inc/Tyler who just seem to keep getting seeded. I want MLG to invite players who are in their prime NOW or RECENTLY, not players who did okay a year ago. See the problem? Minigun is the best player in NA so you're crazy
If you think Minigun is the best player in NA, you are crazy. What did Minigun do to make him the best player in NA? If so, where's his accomplishments? Just because he's popular streamer and plays with Catz and few top NA player doesn't make him the best player.
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On January 29 2012 03:03 Flytothesky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 02:33 The_Stampede wrote:On January 29 2012 02:06 Shiori wrote: I used "fine" in the literal sense of the word, as in, I have no problem with that player being there. Again, I'm not insulting players by saying that I don't think they're competitive enough to be there.
TIJ got to the championship bracket where he proceeded to beat Attero 2-1 and then get 2-0'd by Tyler. The only notable player he beat along the way was WBC, as far as I can tell.
I'm trying to point out the grievous problems with forgoing an open qualifier: namely that you're inviting people whose only MLG results have ranged from winning the loser's bracket to getting mildly deep.
But I mean, I'd actually prefer to invite players like TIJ, Attero, and underdogs who have actually had to fight through the open bracket instead of people like LZ/Inc/Tyler who just seem to keep getting seeded. I want MLG to invite players who are in their prime NOW or RECENTLY, not players who did okay a year ago. See the problem? Minigun is the best player in NA so you're crazy If you think Minigun is the best player in NA, you are crazy. What did Minigun do to make him the best player in NA? If so, where's his accomplishments? Just because he's popular streamer and plays with Catz and few top NA player doesn't make him the best player.
Who's better than him? Maybe DeMusliM but I don't think anyone else on the NA ladder is better.
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On January 29 2012 03:26 Kluey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 03:03 Flytothesky wrote:On January 29 2012 02:33 The_Stampede wrote:On January 29 2012 02:06 Shiori wrote: I used "fine" in the literal sense of the word, as in, I have no problem with that player being there. Again, I'm not insulting players by saying that I don't think they're competitive enough to be there.
TIJ got to the championship bracket where he proceeded to beat Attero 2-1 and then get 2-0'd by Tyler. The only notable player he beat along the way was WBC, as far as I can tell.
I'm trying to point out the grievous problems with forgoing an open qualifier: namely that you're inviting people whose only MLG results have ranged from winning the loser's bracket to getting mildly deep.
But I mean, I'd actually prefer to invite players like TIJ, Attero, and underdogs who have actually had to fight through the open bracket instead of people like LZ/Inc/Tyler who just seem to keep getting seeded. I want MLG to invite players who are in their prime NOW or RECENTLY, not players who did okay a year ago. See the problem? Minigun is the best player in NA so you're crazy If you think Minigun is the best player in NA, you are crazy. What did Minigun do to make him the best player in NA? If so, where's his accomplishments? Just because he's popular streamer and plays with Catz and few top NA player doesn't make him the best player. Who's better than him? Maybe DeMusliM but I don't think anyone else on the NA ladder is better. Can't tell if serious...
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Jesus christ, how can I look forward to a thousand PvPs and TvTs.
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I just want to clarify some things in regards to Elfi and Nerchio not going. Nerchio has semester exams first off and second off isn't very interested in travelling to the US right now. Elfi on the other hand will be playing at Assembly. Otherwise they would've both been on the list. Don't blame MLG
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On January 29 2012 03:01 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 02:53 goswser wrote:On January 29 2012 02:06 Shiori wrote: I used "fine" in the literal sense of the word, as in, I have no problem with that player being there. Again, I'm not insulting players by saying that I don't think they're competitive enough to be there.
TIJ got to the championship bracket where he proceeded to beat Attero 2-1 and then get 2-0'd by Tyler. The only notable player he beat along the way was WBC, as far as I can tell.
I'm trying to point out the grievous problems with forgoing an open qualifier: namely that you're inviting people whose only MLG results have ranged from winning the loser's bracket to getting mildly deep.
But I mean, I'd actually prefer to invite players like TIJ, Attero, and underdogs who have actually had to fight through the open bracket instead of people like LZ/Inc/Tyler who just seem to keep getting seeded. I want MLG to invite players who are in their prime NOW or RECENTLY, not players who did okay a year ago. See the problem? No, you haven't been watching MLG's very much. Tyler has not been doing ok a year ago, he fought his way through one of the open brackets at an MLG, and has also beaten some good players in the championship brackets. Where? The only open bracket I see him making it out of was at Raleigh. Everywhere else in the group stages I'm seeing 0-5.
Anaheim, where he beat Choya in the WB finals.
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On January 29 2012 03:33 m2e wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 03:26 Kluey wrote:On January 29 2012 03:03 Flytothesky wrote:On January 29 2012 02:33 The_Stampede wrote:On January 29 2012 02:06 Shiori wrote: I used "fine" in the literal sense of the word, as in, I have no problem with that player being there. Again, I'm not insulting players by saying that I don't think they're competitive enough to be there.
TIJ got to the championship bracket where he proceeded to beat Attero 2-1 and then get 2-0'd by Tyler. The only notable player he beat along the way was WBC, as far as I can tell.
I'm trying to point out the grievous problems with forgoing an open qualifier: namely that you're inviting people whose only MLG results have ranged from winning the loser's bracket to getting mildly deep.
But I mean, I'd actually prefer to invite players like TIJ, Attero, and underdogs who have actually had to fight through the open bracket instead of people like LZ/Inc/Tyler who just seem to keep getting seeded. I want MLG to invite players who are in their prime NOW or RECENTLY, not players who did okay a year ago. See the problem? Minigun is the best player in NA so you're crazy If you think Minigun is the best player in NA, you are crazy. What did Minigun do to make him the best player in NA? If so, where's his accomplishments? Just because he's popular streamer and plays with Catz and few top NA player doesn't make him the best player. Who's better than him? Maybe DeMusliM but I don't think anyone else on the NA ladder is better. Can't tell if serious...
Obvious trolls are obvious.
That being said, Shiori, while I can understand what you are saying, it just makes sense to invite players like LZ, inc, and Tyler. Will they win, probably not, will they bring a lot of viewers, hell ya. I am not saying that is a great reason to do it, but at the same time they are a buisness. On the other hand, they are all proven programers who have been in the scene for a long time. It is clear that they are not in their prime right now, but they are all proven to be able to be top class players. This could be the tournament where one of the shows that.
All that being said, I would like to see some more underdogs to be able to make their name, I am really hoping trimaster makes a big splash, he was noticed for a second, but he needs to show consistancy.
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Violet from EU... A korean living in US.... Now thats strange.
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Eh? Great list but I'm missing a lot of big names. Stephano? Hero? Dimaga? SeleCT? DongRaeGu? Mana? (Where has Mana even disappeared to; I haven't seen any of him since IPL 3!) Where are you guys...and no Destiny? o.o If Incontrol's there I'd expect Destiny to be there too...
Oh well. Here's hoping at least Kiwikaki and Inori get through for NA. That's all I need to make me happy~
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On January 29 2012 02:06 Shiori wrote: I used "fine" in the literal sense of the word, as in, I have no problem with that player being there. Again, I'm not insulting players by saying that I don't think they're competitive enough to be there.
TIJ got to the championship bracket where he proceeded to beat Attero 2-1 and then get 2-0'd by Tyler. The only notable player he beat along the way was WBC, as far as I can tell.
I'm trying to point out the grievous problems with forgoing an open qualifier: namely that you're inviting people whose only MLG results have ranged from winning the loser's bracket to getting mildly deep.
But I mean, I'd actually prefer to invite players like TIJ, Attero, and underdogs who have actually had to fight through the open bracket instead of people like LZ/Inc/Tyler who just seem to keep getting seeded. I want MLG to invite players who are in their prime NOW or RECENTLY, not players who did okay a year ago. See the problem?
What did Catz accomplish lately? He didn't stand a chance vs Qxc or Kiwikaki who are not top players anymore themselves lately.
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No Destiny.. That's a bummer for me...
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Can you pls update the thread with players that didn't show up, but gave a reason why?
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Not sure why people are asking about this or that player. Almost all of those players are already confirmed for Assembly which takes place at the same time. The ones confirmed for Assembly are:
(P)BlinG (P)HerO (T)Jinro (Z)TLO (T)Kas (T)Polt (T)Satiini (P)Seiplo (Z)Stephano (P)ToD (P)elfi- (T)SeleCT (T)Strelok (P)MaNa (P)NightEnD (Z)Moon
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lmao at people opening any list but the Korean list.
No hope after seeing that player lineup.
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On January 29 2012 03:26 Kluey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 03:03 Flytothesky wrote:On January 29 2012 02:33 The_Stampede wrote:On January 29 2012 02:06 Shiori wrote: I used "fine" in the literal sense of the word, as in, I have no problem with that player being there. Again, I'm not insulting players by saying that I don't think they're competitive enough to be there.
TIJ got to the championship bracket where he proceeded to beat Attero 2-1 and then get 2-0'd by Tyler. The only notable player he beat along the way was WBC, as far as I can tell.
I'm trying to point out the grievous problems with forgoing an open qualifier: namely that you're inviting people whose only MLG results have ranged from winning the loser's bracket to getting mildly deep.
But I mean, I'd actually prefer to invite players like TIJ, Attero, and underdogs who have actually had to fight through the open bracket instead of people like LZ/Inc/Tyler who just seem to keep getting seeded. I want MLG to invite players who are in their prime NOW or RECENTLY, not players who did okay a year ago. See the problem? Minigun is the best player in NA so you're crazy If you think Minigun is the best player in NA, you are crazy. What did Minigun do to make him the best player in NA? If so, where's his accomplishments? Just because he's popular streamer and plays with Catz and few top NA player doesn't make him the best player. Who's better than him? Maybe DeMusliM but I don't think anyone else on the NA ladder is better.
You kidding right?
DDE, Illusion, Gatored just to name a few
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On January 28 2012 07:13 Detrimentally wrote: This is going to be awesome! Although, Europe looks a little weak.
Europe looks weak? Coman! If idra dont win this NO ONE from america can win this. That doesnt go for europe.
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On January 29 2012 04:19 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 03:26 Kluey wrote:On January 29 2012 03:03 Flytothesky wrote:On January 29 2012 02:33 The_Stampede wrote:On January 29 2012 02:06 Shiori wrote: I used "fine" in the literal sense of the word, as in, I have no problem with that player being there. Again, I'm not insulting players by saying that I don't think they're competitive enough to be there.
TIJ got to the championship bracket where he proceeded to beat Attero 2-1 and then get 2-0'd by Tyler. The only notable player he beat along the way was WBC, as far as I can tell.
I'm trying to point out the grievous problems with forgoing an open qualifier: namely that you're inviting people whose only MLG results have ranged from winning the loser's bracket to getting mildly deep.
But I mean, I'd actually prefer to invite players like TIJ, Attero, and underdogs who have actually had to fight through the open bracket instead of people like LZ/Inc/Tyler who just seem to keep getting seeded. I want MLG to invite players who are in their prime NOW or RECENTLY, not players who did okay a year ago. See the problem? Minigun is the best player in NA so you're crazy If you think Minigun is the best player in NA, you are crazy. What did Minigun do to make him the best player in NA? If so, where's his accomplishments? Just because he's popular streamer and plays with Catz and few top NA player doesn't make him the best player. Who's better than him? Maybe DeMusliM but I don't think anyone else on the NA ladder is better. You kidding right? DDE, Illusion, Gatored just to name a few Idra, Huk - if you are counting Americans outside Korea. Sheth, if you are counting Americans inside America Select, Violet, Rain, and Ret if you are counting people living inside of America.
Minigun does not qualify for any of these groups.
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On January 28 2012 07:18 _DarkArchon_ wrote: Stephano, MaNa, Dimaga, Nerchio all missing? Instead from Europe we have Bigs, Pomi, Welmu, Xlord... ... ...
((((
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