To the Root Editors browsing this right now: This is NOT my most professional work. As I said, I'll be writing an article about Kiwikaki versus Stephano in IPL3 which will be much more down to earth than this one. I do like to keep my writing upbeat, but this was just a fun little bit I wrote for one of my favorite players. For now, it will have to suffice as deadlines are deadlines. However, if given the opportunity I would love to submit the Kiwikaki vs Stephano article by the end of Saturday. In the meantime, I hope this will suffice. Though not something I would usually submit in a job application, I think the fun nature of this article captures the essence of what I want to bring to the ROOT writing staff.
Group D for Death... no wait Destruction... no wait
DOOM AND OBLITERATION OF ALL LIFE
...Yeah that sounds about right.
Alright, sorry Fionn, I'm stepping in here.
Please mighty TL writers do not smite this lowly peasant who lives only to serve! Can't we mortals and cyber-gods live in harmony!?
1.0 Introduction
Yeah that's right, I'm going to tell all of you why if there's one RO16 match to see this year, this is going to be it.
I'd tell you first to take a look at the players, but if you're like me (and, in this regard, who isn't?) you've got your shrine to Nestea you pray to every morning so that one's covered. It’s also likely that you are familiar enough now with MKP due to your perfectly normal habit of cutting out your ex-girlfriends face from the photos of you and her and replacing them with the cutest being in the universe.
And *wink* we all know how familiar you are with DRG. (Don't worry, your perverted secret is safe with me bud).
So you know what? Lets let the TL writers talk about those guys and Genius, lets get on to what's really going on here.
Let me ask you a question?
Poll: Who's gonna make it out of this group?
No idea, enlighten us oh mighty Dougler. (63)
57%
It's obvious noob! Time to jerk it in celebration of my superior intellectual skills!! (47)
43%
110 total votes
Your vote: Who's gonna make it out of this group?
(Vote): It's obvious noob! Time to jerk it in celebration of my superior intellectual skills!! (Vote): No idea, enlighten us oh mighty Dougler.
Did you say "No Idea?" ...No? ... Oh, well that's cool, guess you're one clever cretin who clearly has some "business" to attend to so don't let me stop you, hop to it. For the rest of us:
You DID say "No idea," Fantastic! Don't feel ashamed, even I the powerful and all-knowing Dougler am stumped on this one. But what the heck, let's walk ourselves through it to understand why we're stumped.
2.0 The Terran Slayer
Ok lets say you're DRG. What's going through your thoughts right now? You have to train all three matchups, and your first match is against the best ZvZ player in the universe. Outch. Ok well lets chalk your first game up as a loss to Nestea, you should have no problem with the other two chumps right? Guess again! Genius JUST beat you 2-0 last week. On top of that, there's so much pride on the line. With Leenock knocked out of this tournament you're now fighting to see who is the best Zerg in the world. Not only that, but all three of your opponents are just now coming out of a slump, and are all recognized and revered as the dependable "Old Gaurd," compared to this “young upstart”.
Oh, and somehow I forgot to include this:
On January 25 2012 00:26 wklbishop wrote: I think the fact that DRG has never really done well in Code S (despite doing well in special tournaments) should be mentioned here. Hell, he's been quite disappointing in Code S so far.
Boom. That's a lot of reasons why DRG might not be as favored as some would have you believe. The pressure is on DRG's shoulders here and that is a mighty hefty burden to bear.
3.0 The King of Marines
You know who the pressure is NOT on? This guy:
In the past few months, MKP has been known more for his personality than his play. His unfathomably awesome and magnificent play... Ahem! Sorry, I always get all whimsical thinking about MKP. You remember the last time Foxer was in the Code S RO16? No? Well don't be too hard on yourself, it was a year ago, and he made it to the finals. Of course, he also made it to the semifinals of the super-tournament. What I'm saying is, if MKP doesn't crumble in the opening round of a tournament he gets there. But even if he doesn't, who cares? MKP fans enjoy fun and aggressive MKP play, if it sees results fantastic, but we're not insanely attached to that now. Alright, so lets assume the worst, MKP gets 2-0ed by Genius you know what happens next? MKP's face turns to this:
Win or lose that first match, MKP is now gunning for revenge against a pretty major rival of his. DRG just took him down in the Kings of Kong, but before that MKP beat him in the first Arena of Legends, and I'd need to check my sources I'm pretty sure MKP might've played Nestea before too. Now here's something I'll predict right now: one of MKP's games is going to be the highest voted of the night... nay, the entire RO16. MKPvZ is my favorite matchup to watch in all of starcraft.
So MKP has a sadistic grin on his face going into his second match, getting a chance to showcase some of the world's most exciting TvZ, and pretty much looking like Rocky Balboa. The question is which Rocky? If he loses, it's the first one, which is a pretty great movie you gotta admit. If he wins then to many of us it's this:
Or rather the final fight against Drago... but come on, the montage is way more epic.
4.0 Tea Time
Plus, that's only assuming he's against DRG. Should the epicness-that-is-so-epic-that-I-won't-say-it-here-for-fear-of-Fionnitis occur then I am fully confident that MKP would FINALLY get his revenge. MKP's TvZ is better than ever, and the same can't be said for his opponent, though it still is FAR above average to say the least. Plus, you REALLY can't cheese MKP which worked for our professor of beverage in the RO32: which, like his namesake was a refreshing blast from the usual, normally he is a macro god. Still, early aggression is Foxer's wheelhouse and (lets call him) "Brisk" would do well to remember that.
In plain English, I think in the last few months MKP has improved far more than Nestea so this one is a real toss up for me.
Speaking of the mightiest of zegs, Nestea's gotta be feeling pretty good. Even with all I've written above, of all the terrans still in the tournament this is the one he'd probably want in his group. That said, ideally he wouldn't have ANY terran in his group... and actually Genius seems to have pretty good PvZ right now, and we all know how Nestea's ZvP has been looking recently. Nestea could win by taking out DRG twice in ZvZ, (and it's been brought to my attention that DRG's ZvZ is nothing to scoff at), or by beating one of the others in his group, but any way you look at it it's an uphill battle.
So what about Genius? Well I'm tired and it's late, and I've got important stuff to do tomorrow morning! (And by that I mean watch IEM Kiev). So, to round off this little blurb here's Mr.Frenchy, a newly reformed Genius fan.
5.0 Steven Hawkings in Protoss Form
I, like many others, had written Genius off as a gatekeeper to code S. Like Zenio and Clide, he was simply not good enough to be a real threat to top tier players, but was too skilled and consistent to drop to the purgatory of code A. His meager claims to fame are a 2010 Blizzcon Victory, sending IMMVP to code A in the up-and-down matches of GSL March, and being one of the only Protoss to maintain code S throughout most of 2011. Boasting a 53% win rate, evenly spread throughout the three match-ups, Genius is the prototypical solid player, known for his macro style and occasional effective cheese.
But something has changed. After a shaky AOL performance, Genius has won 11 of his last 13 games. He is currently on an 8 game win streak, including most recently 2-0 victories over teammates DRG and SC. Genius enters Group D as one of the hottest players in the GSL. He was the last player chosen during the group selection, an honour usually reserved for the feared MKP and last season’s champion Jjakji.
Genius is the dark horse of Group D, and in fact the whole tournament. The recent upswing in protoss victories shows that PvT and PvZ are becoming increasingly understood. Further, the majority of current code S players have maintained code S due to their skill against terran and zerg. The door is open for a protoss victory, and Genius could be the one to step through.
6.0 Conclusion
Are you somehow not slobbering with anticipation for this match yet!? Well luckily for you GOMTV has made GSL Open #1-3 available to the public! So if my words weren’t enough then head over here and behold:
The Greatest Series in GSL until MMA vs DRG. (MKP vs Kyrix). Is it the crispest starcraft you've seen? Certainly not. Is it some of the most exciting? Hell fucking yeah. Just try counting how many times tastosis claims the game is almost over in game 5.
The Fall of Foxer (Nestea vs MKP) Certainly not my favorite series... but it'll give you some insight into the back-story between these two.
There’s plenty of Genius goodness in those first three seasons as well, but I’m not really at liberty to reccomend any as none really ring a bell off the top of my head.
Hope you enjoy this short little pre-writeup. Look forward to TL’s write-up for a more formal, less MKP biased writeup of this group! Which will actually have write-ups of the matches rather than this long rant about each of the players.
[Off Topic]Also, feel free to let me know what you think about my writing style in this thread. It's certainly not everyone's cup of tea, and believe it or not I CAN write less colloquially, but writing this way is just a lot of fun for me so I'm wondering what the general population thinks of it.
On January 24 2012 13:11 JJH777 wrote: Accusing Nestea of cheesing MVP when MVP did one of the most coin-flip builds in the entirety of SC2 in that same series.... Wow
Not quite sure where I did that... Please quote it and I may edit it out. I realized I acidently posted the not quite final version of this (accidentally saved it over my better version) so it could be related to that.
Edit, found it. Keeping it though. There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with the fact that Nestea cheesed, just as there's NOTHING wrong with MVP cheesing either. I'm just saying that MKP is pretty much zerg cheese proof.
MKP's TvZ is better than ever, and the same can't be said for his opponent. Plus, you can't REALLY cheese MKP which worked for our professor of beverage in the RO32.
It's fine to keep it idc that much it's just making it sound like MVP wins the macro game no matter what which really can't be true if he was that confident he wouldn't have done the 2-rax into 4-rax mass scv pull.
On January 24 2012 13:16 JJH777 wrote: MKP's TvZ is better than ever, and the same can't be said for his opponent. Plus, you can't REALLY cheese MKP which worked for our professor of beverage in the RO32.
It's fine to keep it idc that much it's just making it sound like MVP wins the macro game no matter what which really can't be true if he was that confident he wouldn't have done the 2-rax into 4-rax mass scv pull.
Got it, ok changed to better reflect what I'm getting at.
On January 24 2012 13:16 JJH777 wrote: MKP's TvZ is better than ever, and the same can't be said for his opponent. Plus, you can't REALLY cheese MKP which worked for our professor of beverage in the RO32.
It's fine to keep it idc that much it's just making it sound like MVP wins the macro game no matter what which really can't be true if he was that confident he wouldn't have done the 2-rax into 4-rax mass scv pull.
I'm confused, first is you calling him MVP every time a typo, or do you not realize that he's talking about Marineking, also I don't see how it implied that MKP auto-wins macro games, all I see is him saying that MKP does very well at cheese games.
Nestea isn't really arguably the best ZvZ recently. I think that is a stale opinion to be honest. He has looked extremely vulnerable in the last 3-6 months in all matchups, including ZvZ. DRG, Leenock, Nestea, and Curious are all too close to call on top ZvZer, and it probably just depends on the day and a bit of luck. (ZvT is a toss up between DRG and Leenock, and ZvP I don't know).
I personally am cheering for Genius and MKP. It's not that I dislike DRG or Nestea, it's more who I like the most. Genius 3gate voidrayed his way through the difficult period for Protoss and is now on fire. MKP is simply too huggable not to cheer for.
Also, any thread with the Rocky IV training montage scene is automatically a top quality thread. Though I prefer the version with Hearts On Fire, which was what was actually in the movie, though both songs are badass.
On January 24 2012 14:20 Ben... wrote: This is such a fantastic write up! Good job!
I personally am cheering for Genius and MKP. It's not that I dislike DRG or Nestea, it's more who I like the most. Genius 3gate voidrayed his way through the difficult period for Protoss and is now on fire. MKP is simply too huggable not to cheer for.
Also, any thread with the Rocky IV training montage scene is automatically a top quality thread. Though I prefer the version with Hearts On Fire, which was what was actually in the movie, though both songs are badass.
I remember this scene. It made the actual fight super disappointing because Stallone would just rush at the other dude blocking all the punches with his face.
I don't think ANYONE rates DRG's ZvZ... He's got a win rate of 83.33% (only 6 games but still). Out of those games, he's beat pretty good ZvZ competition in LosirA, BBooongBBooong and Luvsic. I'd definitely say that his ZvZ definitely up there with the best, so I wouldn't mark him off from the game against NesTea. I reckon he will take it. I just have this feeling that he's gonna dispel the invulnerability of NesTea in ZvZ in GSL.
DRG get's out no matter what. He's just really good at ZvT so people give him a lot of hype for that, but statistically, his other matchups are god-like too. I don't see many ways that he will drop out of this group. If he does it'll be an upset. I reckon DRG and NesTea to advance.
I frankly think that predicting who gets out of this group is impossible. All of them are excellent players. And all of them are capable of massive brainfarts.
Assuming all of them play at max capacity I'd say that Marineking and Nestea are most likely to get out. The trouble with that is that I don't even the know the exact capacity of Genius because he's so on fire in the previous rounds but he's never really faced really really top players like MVP.
On January 24 2012 14:20 Ben... wrote: This is such a fantastic write up! Good job!
I personally am cheering for Genius and MKP. It's not that I dislike DRG or Nestea, it's more who I like the most. Genius 3gate voidrayed his way through the difficult period for Protoss and is now on fire. MKP is simply too huggable not to cheer for.
Also, any thread with the Rocky IV training montage scene is automatically a top quality thread. Though I prefer the version with Hearts On Fire, which was what was actually in the movie, though both songs are badass.
On January 24 2012 15:47 neoghaleon55 wrote: MKP fanboy! You have insulted DRG for the last time! (by not predicting he would win!) *glove slap* A DUEL! Pistols! 16 steps! Daybreak!
I can watch?
Honor duels over insults to favorite pro gamers. I can see this becoming the next big spectator e-sport for Starcraft! :D
On January 24 2012 15:47 neoghaleon55 wrote: MKP fanboy! You have insulted DRG for the last time! (by not predicting he would win!) *glove slap* A DUEL! Pistols! 16 steps! Daybreak!
Sir you have stained my honor!
I would gladly duel you, yon knave of the false prophet "DRG"
Though everyone knows not to accept such a duel! You'd turn at step 14 and then rush me!
It's k though, my body would split via mitosis before your bullet got to me, and my two halves would stutter step backwards in two directions at once firing and dodging.
Yay, a hype thread! I love this shit, TL needs a bunch more of these. So tough to call this group. When you could quite easily make a case for a #1 Zerg contender like DRG to be the LEAST likely to make it out of a group you know an awesome night is ahead.
Hoping for Nestea and MKP, Liquibetting on... shit, I have no clue.
It's one of those situations where I'm not even sure who to cheer for I'll always have MKP bias, but after that, I enjoy watching Nestea, Genius and DRG, so hmmm.
Nestea vs DRG has epic story written all over it, as does Nestea vs DRG, as does MKP vs DRG.
On January 24 2012 15:47 neoghaleon55 wrote: MKP fanboy! You have insulted DRG for the last time! (by not predicting he would win!) *glove slap* A DUEL! Pistols! 16 steps! Daybreak!
Sir you have stained my honor!
I would gladly duel you, yon knave of the false prophet "DRG"
Though everyone knows not to accept such a duel! You'd turn at step 14 and then rush me!
It's k though, my body would split via mitosis before your bullet got to me, and my two halves would stutter step backwards in two directions at once firing and dodging.
If Genius plays as well as he did last week he could make it out. But, against a rush from MKP or either of the zergs genius could realistically fall quite easily. They may not let the game last long enough for it to matter as opponents have been doing vs naniwa.
MKP always bring builds which threaten players from start to end.
The fact that Nestea's macro play is so scary allows his cheese to potentially wreck greedy opponents.
DRG is just a killer. The guys wins matches but I don't think he'll make it through this group.
On January 24 2012 16:07 Zzoram wrote: Also, Artosis explains that Nestea chose that name because he had a Nestea on his desk when he created the account.
Makes you wonder what Nestea had on his desk when he created his BW account, doesn't it?
On January 24 2012 16:07 Zzoram wrote: Also, Artosis explains that Nestea chose that name because he had a Nestea on his desk when he created the account.
Makes you wonder what Nestea had on his desk when he created his BW account, doesn't it?
He wanted zergboy, but everyone mistaked it for zergbong.
Honor duels over insults to favorite pro gamers. I can see this becoming the next big spectator e-sport for Starcraft! :D
Tickets are 20 minerals per person. Comon Dougler, we got a show to put on!
Awww...what do you mean you won't duel me. Fine, we should ....have a toast...to putting aside our differences. *spikes drink.
Oh and yes, Pure-SC2. Anything with DRG is epicness <3
Huzzah!
Here's to the noobs we've beaten, The noobs we've stomped. Here's to those of us who haven't had such luck. Here's to banelings in the ground, and tanks sieged up. Here's to pushing through the backdoor where their defenses suck. Here's to you and here's to me, If ever you and I should disagree then FUCK YOU and HERE'S TO ME!
Alright, so lets assume the worst, MKP gets 2-0ed by Genius you know what happens next? MKP's face turns to this:
Uh... I'm pretty sure MKP's face turns to this:
Had to be said...
But I agree with you though, this group has got to be the Group of Death, even with how stacked the other 3 groups are, particularly with how hot Genius and MKP's resurgences have been .
I think the fact that DRG has never really done well in Code S (despite doing well in special tournaments) should be mentioned here. Hell, he's been quite disappointing in Code S so far.
On January 25 2012 00:26 wklbishop wrote: I think the fact that DRG has never really done well in Code S (despite doing well in special tournaments) should be mentioned here. Hell, he's been quite disappointing in Code S so far.
Good call! I'll change that and a few other things when I edit it this evening. I'm at work currently though so that's a ways off.
I think DRG and Genius will make it through. DRG is consistently getting better while Nestea is consistently getting worse. Genius will go through because he's in BAMF mode.
On January 24 2012 13:11 JJH777 wrote: Accusing Nestea of cheesing MVP when MVP did one of the most coin-flip builds in the entirety of SC2 in that same series.... Wow
Not quite sure where I did that... Please quote it and I may edit it out. I realized I acidently posted the not quite final version of this (accidentally saved it over my better version) so it could be related to that.
Edit, found it. Keeping it though. There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with the fact that Nestea cheesed, just as there's NOTHING wrong with MVP cheesing either. I'm just saying that MKP is pretty much zerg cheese proof.
Edit: Blast you beat me to it!
LOL at saying MKP is pretty much zerg cheese proof. MKP is awful against zerg cheese, that's pretty much his achiles heel. You should go watch MKP vs aTnDelphi (who's like a semi-tier european that isnt particularly good ) @ Homestory Cup 4
i think that nestea and MKP will go through .. i think that mkp best matchups now are TvZ and TvP but who knows what can happen in this group.. Nestea has chosen DRG for a reason , probably to show him that he still is the best zerg , but for DRG to pick MKP instead of an easier player is stupid... MKP played the Kong tourney against DRG on Europe because he was in germany for HSC so he probably wasnt at his best , and getting genius as a prize for the last chosen player is bad for DRG too. i really want to see this group! we will get great matches on a single day!
I think MKP and DRG get out of this group. DRG's ZvZ has looked impeccable since MLG Providence, and NesTea isn't invincible in the MU anymore. MKP just finds ways to win, so I think he gets out too.
On January 25 2012 00:26 wklbishop wrote: I think the fact that DRG has never really done well in Code S (despite doing well in special tournaments) should be mentioned here. Hell, he's been quite disappointing in Code S so far.
Good call! I'll change that and a few other things when I edit it this evening. I'm at work currently though so that's a ways off.
I'm SO GLAD so many of you are enjoying it!
Whoa, I am impressed by your flexibility and reception to feedback. o-O
I'm going to say this group is too hard to predict and be accurate.. my heart says DRG and MKP my head says Nestea and Genius.. like i said.. who knows!
On January 24 2012 13:11 JJH777 wrote: Accusing Nestea of cheesing MVP when MVP did one of the most coin-flip builds in the entirety of SC2 in that same series.... Wow
Not quite sure where I did that... Please quote it and I may edit it out. I realized I acidently posted the not quite final version of this (accidentally saved it over my better version) so it could be related to that.
Edit, found it. Keeping it though. There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with the fact that Nestea cheesed, just as there's NOTHING wrong with MVP cheesing either. I'm just saying that MKP is pretty much zerg cheese proof.
Edit: Blast you beat me to it!
LOL at saying MKP is pretty much zerg cheese proof. MKP is awful against zerg cheese, that's pretty much his achiles heel. You should go watch MKP vs aTnDelphi (who's like a semi-tier european that isnt particularly good ) @ Homestory Cup 4
No one cares about HSC 4
This is epic!!! I don't think people understand how crazy these matches are gonna be! I'm rooting for MKP and Nestea. Drg's zvz is really good but come on, he admits asking Nestea for help.
Don't know why so many people think nestea won't make it out. did no one watch the last round against MVP? So he had arough couple months; so did mc, or even mvp a while back. this is nestea, 3 time gsl winner, king of preparation, ina group of notoriusly inconsistent players
On January 24 2012 13:11 JJH777 wrote: Accusing Nestea of cheesing MVP when MVP did one of the most coin-flip builds in the entirety of SC2 in that same series.... Wow
Not quite sure where I did that... Please quote it and I may edit it out. I realized I acidently posted the not quite final version of this (accidentally saved it over my better version) so it could be related to that.
Edit, found it. Keeping it though. There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with the fact that Nestea cheesed, just as there's NOTHING wrong with MVP cheesing either. I'm just saying that MKP is pretty much zerg cheese proof.
Edit: Blast you beat me to it!
LOL at saying MKP is pretty much zerg cheese proof. MKP is awful against zerg cheese, that's pretty much his achiles heel. You should go watch MKP vs aTnDelphi (who's like a semi-tier european that isnt particularly good ) @ Homestory Cup 4
Are u talking bout those games were marineking went fast third from 1 rax cc and saw roach ling all in coming and didnt give a shit and didnt even try to put bunker up :D
Alright, added a few of those facts and suggestions that people have mentioned into the OP.
I guess if I had to say who'll come out here I'd say
Nestea>DRG 2-1 Even though admittedly DRG actually has some beastly ZvZ Genius>MKP 2-0 Genius>Nestea 2-1 If Genius can beat DRG in PvZ 2-0 then I think he can even beat Nestea... probably. DRG>MKP 2-1 Nestea > DRG 2-1
Genius and Nestea advance...
GOD that's so hard to say tho. ANY of those matches could go either way and who knows if Genius is just all hype still. Man, I just don't know.
On January 24 2012 20:56 SeaSwift wrote: Genius won't make it out. I'm saying this purely because he's been so hyped by the community (like Keen/fOrGG) that he is doomed to fail.
You know what happens when people doubt Genius? They get served!
On January 24 2012 20:56 SeaSwift wrote: Genius won't make it out. I'm saying this purely because he's been so hyped by the community (like Keen/fOrGG) that he is doomed to fail.
You know what happens when people doubt Genius? They get served!
omg just spit out my soda. you sir, owe me a new soda/keyboard/shirt.
On January 24 2012 20:56 SeaSwift wrote: Genius won't make it out. I'm saying this purely because he's been so hyped by the community (like Keen/fOrGG) that he is doomed to fail.
You know what happens when people doubt Genius? They get served!
omg just spit out my soda. you sir, owe me a new soda/keyboard/shirt.
Despite the positive feedback I quickly skimmed the front page, seen a huge wall of text with random pictures and couldn't discern anything related to the title. I wasn't aware of the players in group D and quickly glancing this post has done little to remedy it. Instead of randomly tossing in pictures for comedy, why not add SOMEWHERE the details of group D. Their names, in big bolded text, their pictures, the maps, etc. Write-up was cool but organization and presentation was extremely sub par.
On January 25 2012 23:51 Tyrant0 wrote: Despite the positive feedback I quickly skimmed the front page, seen a huge wall of text with random pictures and couldn't discern anything related to the title. I wasn't aware of the players in group D and quickly glancing this post has done little to remedy it. Instead of randomly tossing in pictures for comedy, why not add SOMEWHERE the details of group D. Their names, in big bolded text, their pictures, the maps, etc. Write-up was cool but organization and presentation was extremely sub par.
I'll do that next time and will have the player sections bolded. However this isn't exactly meant to be one of those write ups. The TL staff is going to do a write up either way and that will be more what you're looking for. This "wall of text with random pictures" --thereby not being a wall of text by definition-- appeals to some, but it clearly isn't your thing, I suggest you don't read the next one.
On January 24 2012 20:56 SeaSwift wrote: Genius won't make it out. I'm saying this purely because he's been so hyped by the community (like Keen/fOrGG) that he is doomed to fail.
You know what happens when people doubt Genius? They get served!
omg just spit out my soda. you sir, owe me a new soda/keyboard/shirt.
Bwahahahaha xD DRG can't beat Genius. He needs the Bulgogi.
On January 25 2012 13:05 TheDougler wrote: Alright, added a few of those facts and suggestions that people have mentioned into the OP.
I guess if I had to say who'll come out here I'd say
Nestea>DRG 2-1 Even though admittedly DRG actually has some beastly ZvZ Genius>MKP 2-0 Genius>Nestea 2-1 If Genius can beat DRG in PvZ 2-0 then I think he can even beat Nestea... probably. DRG>MKP 2-1 Nestea > DRG 2-1
Genius and Nestea advance...
GOD that's so hard to say tho. ANY of those matches could go either way and who knows if Genius is just all hype still. Man, I just don't know.
You all forget one thing, NesTea is really good in the GSL because he has time to prepare specific builds tailored around the maps and the player...that's why at times he looks unstopable and although a great player, when there's a lot of matches in a couple of days he performs a bit or a lot worse than his normal GSL self. So I actually really expect him to win the group in first place.
On January 25 2012 13:05 TheDougler wrote: Alright, added a few of those facts and suggestions that people have mentioned into the OP.
I guess if I had to say who'll come out here I'd say
Nestea>DRG 2-1 Even though admittedly DRG actually has some beastly ZvZ Genius>MKP 2-0 Genius>Nestea 2-1 If Genius can beat DRG in PvZ 2-0 then I think he can even beat Nestea... probably. DRG>MKP 2-1 Nestea > DRG 2-1
Genius and Nestea advance...
GOD that's so hard to say tho. ANY of those matches could go either way and who knows if Genius is just all hype still. Man, I just don't know.
You all forget one thing, NesTea is really good in the GSL because he has time to prepare specific builds tailored around the maps and the player...that's why at times he looks unstopable and although a great player, when there's a lot of matches in a couple of days he performs a bit or a lot worse than his normal GSL self. So I actually really expect him to win the group in first place.
The thing is that now the loser chooses the map. You can't prepare for every map in advance with this new format
Honestly I think that if DRG wants to get out of this group, he needs to take down Nestea. Nestea's incredibly smart, but he's an old guy, I'm betting that his micro isn't as insane as DRG's. The best idea would be to force a bling war with nestea, where he has room to mess up. That or meta-game the shit out of him and nydus or something. lol
Prediction
DRG<Nestea
Genius>MKP
Nestea<Genius
DRG>MKP
BUTTTT
DRG>Nestea
Second time's a charm!
Genius and DRG advances!
Bulgogi dinner ensues!
:D
Edit: Wow that prediction was incredibly close to yours, Dougler But ye have no faith in DRG *glove slap
On January 26 2012 03:06 neoghaleon55 wrote: Honestly I think that if DRG wants to get out of this group, he needs to take down Nestea. Nestea's incredibly smart, but he's an old guy, I'm betting that his micro isn't as insane as DRG's. The best idea would be to force a bling war with nestea, where he has room to mess up. That or meta-game the shit out of him and nydus or something. lol
Prediction
DRG<Nestea
Genius>MKP
Nestea<Genius
DRG>MKP
BUTTTT
DRG>Nestea
Second time's a charm!
Genius and DRG advances!
Bulgogi dinner ensues!
:D
Edit: Wow that prediction was incredibly close to yours, Dougler But ye have no faith in DRG *glove slap
Oh Touche!
Well tonight's the night. Lets see how this turns out!
Good writeup. You know I'm still angry for that GSL Open finals. My whole body was shacking as I realized that Nestea defended the proxy rax on close Metal (xD) successfully. Something in me needs to see MKP stomp Nestea to be in peace.
On February 09 2012 09:13 MrCon wrote: Good writeup. You know I'm still angry for that GSL Open finals. My whole body was shacking as I realized that Nestea defended the proxy rax on close Metal (xD) successfully. Something in me needs to see MKP stomp Nestea to be in peace.
I know that feel bro. First nestea, and then, MVP.
Sorry but Genius got the first ticket already, MKP can't stand a chance in Genius's PvT so it's like a free win for him. Next is either DRG or Nestea, which isn't as bad as ppl think for him.
Personally I think Nestea or DRG can make it, sorry MKP.
On February 09 2012 09:13 MrCon wrote: Good writeup. You know I'm still angry for that GSL Open finals. My whole body was shacking as I realized that Nestea defended the proxy rax on close Metal (xD) successfully. Something in me needs to see MKP stomp Nestea to be in peace.
I know that feel bro. First nestea, and then, MVP.
(Letting this thread die now but I read this comment and had to respond).
We'll get them yet boys... They haven't seen the last of Foxer... Not by a long shot.
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