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did you miss the SPOILERS for GSL Ro32 Group G matches are in this interview!
aLive, "I want to resolve this issue" - Page 2
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On January 19 2012 01:32 Jackle wrote: Although Coach Lee overreacted and went to the Korean press too early, isn't this the same situation with Puma, a foreign team contacted the player first before talking with management. Puma didn't have a contract. Alive had a contract with a salary that ended in July. | ||
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skyflyfish
Canada499 Posts
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
On January 19 2012 01:32 Amestir wrote: So if I read this right TSL is basicly dead since Clyde and JYP left. I mean Alive was only on TSL for show for the past months. You forget "He-who-shall-not-be-named" that is still in TSL: + Show Spoiler + Polt | ||
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zeru
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
aLive....was talking to his mate from fnatic who said they have a deal for you when you leave TSL...WHICH was already on the cards. coach lee technically "Hacks" his skype prints off the chat log....tells aLive i want transfer fee and QQ fnatic. aLive is sorry and says he will pay the fee he just wants out. Coach lee QQs some more, fnatic lie about shit. coach lee gets pissed, aLive gets upset. Shit hits fan. aLive says this...... Next up court action xD All because coach lee hacked skype.....or he would have 0 evidence. Of course aLive knowinly knew he would get contract from Fnatic but what is stopping him? He WAS in the middle of leaving TSL anyway? He was trying to do things right before people found out he had basically an open invite to join Fnatic. Coach lee has done bad, Fnatic have done even worst, and poor aLive just wants out of TSL and to play sc2 t.t | ||
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SenorChang
Australia4730 Posts
On January 19 2012 01:34 Za7oX wrote: did you miss the SPOILERS for GSL Ro32 Group G matches are in this interview! That wasn't up there when he posted. | ||
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Leifish
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Zona
40426 Posts
On January 19 2012 01:15 Smix wrote: Coach Lee also said when  Clide and  JYP hyung left that if I was still unhappy, I could leave too. I was going to leave at that time but because of personal issues, I said I would stay in the team a bit longer, but just physically, not as an active teammate. I thought that Coach Lee had accepted it at the time but I guess that wasn’t the case. lol, if I'm interpreting the part I emphasized correctly, he thought he could basically be a leech and no one would mind? Stay there and not actually help the team? | ||
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
Coach Lee, the skype thing is just messed up. Also, try not to publish things before you clear the mess. Fnatic and all other foreign teams, try to contact the team manager before you approach the players! I know your legal experts says there's a hole in korean team's contract, but try to respect. TSL and other Koreans teams, I know you are knew to these world, but make sure you fill up the holes in your contract. They are not your beloved mentees anymore. Now they know there are money out there. Finance yourself! | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On January 19 2012 01:37 Pandemona wrote: So after reading it...AND GETTING SPOILT T.T aLive....was talking to his mate from fnatic who said they have a deal for you when you leave TSL...WHICH was already on the cards. coach lee technically "Hacks" his skype prints off the chat log....tells aLive i want transfer fee and QQ fnatic. aLive is sorry and says he will pay the fee he just wants out. Coach lee QQs some more, fnatic lie about shit. coach lee gets pissed, aLive gets upset. Shit hits fan. aLive says this...... Next up court action xD All because coach lee hacked skype.....or he would have 0 evidence. Of course aLive knowinly knew he would get contract from Fnatic but what is stopping him? He WAS in the middle of leaving TSL anyway? He was trying to do things right before people found out he had basically an open invite to join Fnatic. Coach lee has done bad, Fnatic have done even worst, and poor aLive just wants out of TSL and to play sc2 t.t I don't get why it's poor Alive. Alive fucked up. It's not like he was a slave on TSL. Even if he didn't like staying there anymore, he signed a professional contract and was getting paid actual money (not Monopoly money) to represent TSL and their sponsors until July. Which is especially important since he was their only current player in Code S and would be the most seen out of all the TSL players at the moment. I know Alive is young and all, but I don't think it's that hard to understand a contract. If Alive wanted to leave, he should have went to Lee directly and left like JYP, Killer and Clide who all got permission to leave without any fuss. JYP and Clide both joined new teams with no problem and are happy where they are. Alive and the translator, who seemed to have started talks of signing a deal before even the Fnatic team knew about it, from my view point, are the ones to blame most harshly in this matter. It makes Fnatic look bad. It makes TSL look bad. Shit, it makes e-sports in general look bad. How is anyone supposed to take this seriously when we have players breaching contracts left and right? | ||
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MentalGNT
Denmark1264 Posts
On January 19 2012 01:39 Zona wrote: lol, if I'm interpreting the part I emphasized correctly, he thought he could basically be a leech and no one would mind? Stay there and not actually help the team? There's probably something lost in translation. I'm guessing that he meant that he would stay in the team house/practice with TSL but not represent them in GSL/GSTL. | ||
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zeru
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Detri
United Kingdom683 Posts
The only person coming out in a bad light due to this is Coach Lee, that's hella paranoid.... I just hope this doesn't screw up aLives career, he's an excellent terran and I enjoy watching his games. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On January 19 2012 01:33 itiswhatitis wrote: This right here added to my established stance that Coach Lee is a creepy weirdo. lol haha wutttt. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On January 19 2012 01:35 Full.tilt wrote: Foreign teams really know how to screw korean players over. management should always ask permission before talking to a player on another team regarding any possible move. Have some fucking class. Contracts or law technicalities can always be abused, bottom line is, the guy is on a fellow SC2 pro team. You do the competing in game, don't screw with other teams outside of it. Foreign teams are basically gutting Korean SC2 at this point. I am beginning to wonder how much longer it survives if things keep going the way they are going. | ||
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On January 19 2012 01:44 Detri wrote: lol keylogging a players computer? Or what ever he did to get the skype logs.. The only person coming out in a bad light due to this is Coach Lee, that's hella paranoid.... I just hope this doesn't screw up aLives career, he's an excellent terran and I enjoy watching his games. Might as well been a teammate who did that and showed coach lee. There's really no evidence that can make us bash coach lee, cause we dont even know if he was the one to take them off his computer. | ||
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