Intimate ZvX with Stoic - Page 48

On December 15 2012 07:58 Proxee wrote:
I really enjoyed your guys videos, Would be awesome if you did shows again. Do you offer coaching?

On December 24 2012 10:13 JackRipper wrote:
With regards to a 15 hatch vs 10 pool, what do you do when they only send their lings and keep reinforcing with only lings? Don't cancel hatch, try to get a surround, put up a spine crawler in main, then finally chase them out once lings pop are things that I learned from the other 15 hatch vs 10 pool VODs, but I'm not sure what to do from there. My gas is extremely late (since i never made an extractor after seeing lings go across map), so I won't have ling speed for a while. How do I defend the followup baneling aggression still off of 1 base without ling speed or banelings?

Also, what would you do if they go for your expo instead of going towards your drones? How many drones do you send to save the natural, if you can?

On December 24 2012 11:03 stoicRegret wrote:


10 pool no pull on drones doesn't really counter 15 hatch. You can even 17 extractor 16 pool after the hatch and be ok. If they target the hatch, let it die, and play as though it is a delayed 14/14 vs 10 pool, and use early ling speed for full map control. If they go into your main, it's even better. Use the deepest mineral patch and mass click your drones there until the lings come in, and then A click once and go back to the mineral patch over and over, until your lings come out, then it is an even easier win. Becareful if they do not exspand, it means banelings or speed is coming. Spine the instant you do not see them build a hatch at their 11-13 drone mark.

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On December 24 2012 11:30 JackRipper wrote:


That makes a lot of sense. I think the main reason I've been losing to that build is because I cancel the extractor and don't remake it until after my lings come out. They'll follow it up with speed or banes and my own speed won't be in time to defend.

On a similar note, would roaches be a good follow up for this if I keep both my main and natural? (i.e. they went up to my base instead of attacking my natural, and I have to micro my drones, thus no gas, until my lings pop out). The 1-1:30 min I don't have speed and they have speed or banes is when I make my most critical mistakes so I was thinking of skipping ling speed altogether and just go roaches (6 to have two lines of three blocking the ramp) to protect both my main and natural.

Though if I'm forced to cancel my hatch (since they attacked it), I would be able to mine gas and have speed earlier and could go lings + spine to defend my 1 base as per your suggestion.

On December 24 2012 19:39 3achy wrote:
In regards to ZvT where the Terran goes mech, do you think roaches are the only viable mid game unit? Or are mutas or something a possibility? Is it better to try and be aggressive with them or just turtle up and wait for hive tech?

On March 22 2013 14:26 kingjames01 wrote:
That'd be amazing! I'm a big fan; I'll definitely watch!