the more standard play in zvp is to get 2 gases at around 6 min or so and to get a quick 3rd. While this is really good, I am wondering why 14gas/14pool is no viable. with 14/14 you get map control and can easily pick off probes and whatnot.
another thing is that if the protoss opens 1 gate expand, you will be in a much better position.

Or am I wrong?

smwatkin

Canada399 Posts

July 25 2012 21:53 GMT

#783

A protoss that opens 1 gate expand you say? 14/14 you say!?

BEHOLD: EPISODE 25 IS NOW UP ON YOUTUBE. Check out game 4 I believe.

I'll update the thread when I get home to my desktop computer.

joshie0808

Canada1023 Posts

July 25 2012 21:58 GMT

#784

On July 26 2012 06:53 smwatkin wrote:
A protoss that opens 1 gate expand you say? 14/14 you say!?

BEHOLD: EPISODE 25 IS NOW UP ON YOUTUBE. Check out game 4 I believe.

I'll update the thread when I get home to my desktop computer.

Yay new VODs! Whoohoo.. i check this thread every day at work for new videos hahaa. Thanks a bunch for your time and effort Shawn/David!

smwatkin

Canada399 Posts

July 26 2012 02:21 GMT

#785

Ok the thread is updated. Sorry for the wait folks. Also, I am away for about 2 weeks, Back on August 13th ish, so new VODs then.

Lobotomist

United States1541 Posts

July 26 2012 04:57 GMT

#786

I can tell this (this drinking game) is going to be terrible, like Nuvo's taste in music. Bam!

Stoked for the new VODs gents!

DarKcS

Australia1237 Posts

July 26 2012 05:50 GMT

#787

VODS up:
http://www.youtube.com/user/smwatkin?feature=watch

niladorus

Greece116 Posts

July 26 2012 23:31 GMT

#788

i call the banes to kill oponents that dont quit mannerbanes. gotta love them

ErrorNA

United States86 Posts

July 27 2012 04:03 GMT

#789

you guys are so funny haha i cant live without stoic in my life

DarKcS

Australia1237 Posts

July 27 2012 08:48 GMT

#790

We need to hatch a plot to get them more than 300 viewers (well they have 3k on a good day). Someone spam them on reddit, durrr.

stoicRegret

Canada206 Posts

July 28 2012 06:24 GMT

#791

On July 27 2012 17:48 DarKcS wrote:
We need to hatch a plot to get them more than 300 viewers (well they have 3k on a good day). Someone spam them on reddit, durrr.

Hells yeah. Also, donut sponsors are always welcome.

DarKcS

Australia1237 Posts

July 28 2012 11:22 GMT

#792

My computer is good enough to do a skype call and record in 720p (1080p na

) - if you want let's do solo casts Regret

Noobity

United States871 Posts

July 28 2012 15:30 GMT

#793

Ok, so, I'm a bit of a CatZ fanboy, so maybe I'm biased, but saying "GL PRO" is kind of... inciting some sort of response. I don't really think he's an idiot because he was confused by that greeting.

I dunno, first thing I can think of in a long time that's bugged me, and I probably wouldn't have said anything if it wasn't someone I was following pretty hard. You're of course more than welcome to have that opinion, and I don't think any less of you guys for it (not that it would matter) just kinda... I dunno.

I don't like it when people do something to elicit a response and then act as if the response that was received was "stupid" or "wrong". Just seems silly to put someone in that position in the first place.

Sorry for the negativity, still love the videos and appreciate the shit out of them. I'll keep my peanut gallery comments to myself from now on. :<

stoicRegret

Canada206 Posts

July 28 2012 16:24 GMT

#794

On July 29 2012 00:30 Noobity wrote:
Ok, so, I'm a bit of a CatZ fanboy, so maybe I'm biased, but saying "GL PRO" is kind of... inciting some sort of response. I don't really think he's an idiot because he was confused by that greeting.

I dunno, first thing I can think of in a long time that's bugged me, and I probably wouldn't have said anything if it wasn't someone I was following pretty hard. You're of course more than welcome to have that opinion, and I don't think any less of you guys for it (not that it would matter) just kinda... I dunno.

I don't like it when people do something to elicit a response and then act as if the response that was received was "stupid" or "wrong". Just seems silly to put someone in that position in the first place.

Sorry for the negativity, still love the videos and appreciate the shit out of them. I'll keep my peanut gallery comments to myself from now on. :<

I honestly don't understand how calling someone a pro is eliciting a response. I've called forgg a Champion, incontrol a SOTG Pillar, idra a Pro, slush a Pro, and Catz a pro.

There is a reason why Catz responded the way he did, and it is a quality he showed that is quite negative. I'm not going to psychoanalyse this further on a TL thread, but for a professional player to think being called professional is offensive... some of you will see where this is going.

I don't hate Catz, and neither should you. But if you think my negativity towards his response to myself calling him Pro at the start of a game was out of line, then I don't know what to say.

stoicRegret

Canada206 Posts

July 28 2012 16:36 GMT

#795

On July 28 2012 20:22 DarKcS wrote:
My computer is good enough to do a skype call and record in 720p (1080p na

) - if you want let's do solo casts Regret

Bwahaha sure.

Noobity

United States871 Posts

July 28 2012 16:58 GMT

#796

I dunno, do you go "GL PROTOSS" at the beginning of a game vs protoss? I mean, most games you don't say anything, it kinda seems like you're trying to get some sort of response. Him asking you if that's supposed to be a negative thing seems no better/worse than you pulling out a rather random greeting in the first place. I just don't think it reflects very positively on you guys to go into it the way you did. You don't owe anyone anything and don't need to listen to a scrub like me, but this is how I see it and I'm only pointing it out because it seemed a little off to me. Not going to affect my viewing in the future, and shouldn't affect anyone else's. I know you're doing this because you guys want to and not to get money or fame or any of that because you don't need it.

And honestly, I don't think what was said was out of line so much as it was just a little tacky. It's no worse than what these guys say on their streams and they get shit for. I'm not trying to give you guys shit, just pointing out something that seemed tacky. I'm not going to go further into it, and if you want to respond that's going to be the last word because it's your thread and like I've said before I really like and appreciate the videos. I got my point across to the best of my lacking ability and if it's a dumb point it's a dumb point. It's my point, and that's the end of this line of thought from me. <3

stoicRegret

Canada206 Posts

July 28 2012 17:21 GMT

#797

On July 29 2012 01:58 Noobity wrote:
I dunno, do you go "GL PROTOSS" at the beginning of a game vs protoss? I mean, most games you don't say anything, it kinda seems like you're trying to get some sort of response. Him asking you if that's supposed to be a negative thing seems no better/worse than you pulling out a rather random greeting in the first place. I just don't think it reflects very positively on you guys to go into it the way you did. You don't owe anyone anything and don't need to listen to a scrub like me, but this is how I see it and I'm only pointing it out because it seemed a little off to me. Not going to affect my viewing in the future, and shouldn't affect anyone else's. I know you're doing this because you guys want to and not to get money or fame or any of that because you don't need it.

And honestly, I don't think what was said was out of line so much as it was just a little tacky. It's no worse than what these guys say on their streams and they get shit for. I'm not trying to give you guys shit, just pointing out something that seemed tacky. I'm not going to go further into it, and if you want to respond that's going to be the last word because it's your thread and like I've said before I really like and appreciate the videos. I got my point across to the best of my lacking ability and if it's a dumb point it's a dumb point. It's my point, and that's the end of this line of thought from me. <3

You don't have to be so hard on yourself. I take what you say into consideration because I respect what you're saying. But in all honestly, he turned quite condescending on me in front of 2k viewers, and I do think it was a little out of line. Don't forget, he did even ask me "do we know each other?" Catz knows that he's famous, so before even asking about the "pro" part, he is clearly stating to me "You are a nobody, why are you calling me Pro? Are you making fun of me?"

I'm responding to this mainly because I see this happening in the future with other famous people, as people who are well known and have a large fan-base will naturally have baised viewers towards them. If i win a game off Idra, and he leaves without GGing, and i make some comment in a Vod about it, sure enough an Idra fan is going to post something very similar to what you are posting now about Cats, and I feel it will be extremely impossible for me to say anything logical about it because the fact that he is Idra is going to change the way people view his repsonses in very normal social situations. I think if you viewed what happened here with Catz with an open mind, taking away from the fact that he is Catz, you will see how peculiar of a situation it was.

stoicRegret

Canada206 Posts

August 01 2012 22:43 GMT

#798

If anyone has any feedback as to what our next VODs should be about, let Shawn or myself know.

StatixEx

United Kingdom779 Posts

August 01 2012 22:54 GMT

#799

dont change what you are doing, you guys are taking wins everywhere and can clearly play this game very well. The attitude is just to me and my sc mates liking, keep it up . . however i am repeating ur vods now . . Y U NO MAKE MOAR???

stoicRegret

Canada206 Posts

August 02 2012 00:09 GMT

#800

On August 02 2012 07:54 StatixEx wrote:
dont change what you are doing, you guys are taking wins everywhere and can clearly play this game very well. The attitude is just to me and my sc mates liking, keep it up . . however i am repeating ur vods now . . Y U NO MAKE MOAR???

Shawn is out of country for another week.