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Usually age just gives you less time to play because you have more responsibilities. Well, for me in my late 30s, I just don't watch TV and play SC2 instead. Even with wife and kids, you can still find some time to play if you try... even if it's never enough to satisfy your cravings, it can still be fun to play ladder. It's never too late to play SC2 if you are good and love a competitive RTS. Gaming as an adult: Are you too slow? - Page 13
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Blacklizard
United States1194 Posts
Usually age just gives you less time to play because you have more responsibilities. Well, for me in my late 30s, I just don't watch TV and play SC2 instead. Even with wife and kids, you can still find some time to play if you try... even if it's never enough to satisfy your cravings, it can still be fun to play ladder. It's never too late to play SC2 if you are good and love a competitive RTS. | ||
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Lexiconman
United States22 Posts
30+, married with two children here. I play a few nights a week after 9:00 EST. | ||
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GuttShottSD
United States5 Posts
I have seen a definite improvement in my play and results since starting SC2 a few months ago. Where the limit is at my age, I'm not sure. Great post OP! | ||
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Noximous
United States29 Posts
Anyway, just my 2 cents. | ||
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trias_e
United States520 Posts
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Mongolbonjwa
Finland376 Posts
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shaggles
Poland108 Posts
As for part one of the question, I would attribute this phenomenon to unnecessary thoughts and doubts. Being succesful at progaming requires not bothering about anything else apart from progaming. I would argue that there are only tiny differences between physical abilities of players - comparing to "standard" sports. It is like top guitar players can play at top speed of 14 to 16 notes per second (or perhaps 20+), and what you hear is just music (I like the "musical" part of this thread and can go on with examples forever). What makes a difference is planning, reacting and decisionmaking. The point is, you need all of your brain for that in game. But as you getting older, you are gaining so-called life-experience that actually makes you use your brain for non-game things while playing (not only that steals your practice time). In my opinion, the strength of youth derives from the fact, that all of the young progamer brain is filled mostly if not only with information about the game, and there is nothing to interfere with it (there is some video evidence, they do not bother about being able to prepare a meal or even turn on computer. See Nal_ra Old Boy Series or Hyungjoon Becomes A Progamer Series - YouTube for various reference examples). As soon as they learn about real life, they are lost For the second part: I am 39, I play broodwar since 2004. I am still improving. I am getting faster (playing guitar helps). I lack that "plastic" intelligence as pointed out earlier, but I am more efficient in learning. When will I deteriorate? [>> insert brain cognitive ability discussion here<<] There is a good example in a sport similiar to SC - chess. There were a lot of players way beyond their 50's or even 60's (not mentioning Reshevsky), still performing well in tournaments. Not only in "standard" chess but also in blitz chess. Consider, that the blitz chess require using "standard schemes", that can be learned and used by adult with much more efficiency. So the faster the game the better. So, altough I really enjoyed the scientific approach presented here, I rather go game, and tell you in 10 or 20 years. | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
I'm not a great SC2 player, by the way, but the bias in the SC2 community toward younger players is cultural rather than physiological. | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
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EndOfLineTv
United States741 Posts
OMG. Best workout ever mayibe?!?!?! | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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Dariusz
Poland657 Posts
With healthy lifestyle and smart approach to learning and improving, you can be above 30 years old but still as sharp as 19 yo gamers, and MUCH sharper than 19 yo gamers that eat fast food and sit on their ass entire day. On February 06 2012 21:01 Lysenko wrote: I'm 40, and I regularly attend Los Angeles Philharmonic concerts. One thing I've noticed is that a good number of the top-end concert pianists they host are men much older than I am. If a guy in his late 50s can do what these guys do, I should be good for a while before the decline sets in. Good point, Berezovsky is over 40 years old and his APM would be more than several hundreds  | ||
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Tulkas25
Greece292 Posts
And those comments about pianists or musical instrument players in general are on spot! | ||
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RyF
Austria508 Posts
On February 06 2012 21:01 Lysenko wrote: I'm 40, and I regularly attend Los Angeles Philharmonic concerts. One thing I've noticed is that a good number of the top-end concert pianists they host are men much older than I am. If a guy in his late 50s can do what these guys do, I should be good for a while before the decline sets in. I'm not a great SC2 player, by the way, but the bias in the SC2 community toward younger players is cultural rather than physiological. Totally agreed. But despite that we have to think why there are more young (14-18) good players than older ones like whitera. so how many people older people (25+) are starting to play the game compared to younger ones? i think this would be at least 10:1 prolly a lot worse. So on 10 new and young progamers there will be 1 older progamer. So ofc course we have to watch out for the younger and not the older ones. But this has nothing to do with the lack ability to play in later stages of your life. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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baudusau
Germany58 Posts
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
1. It's physically taxing and pretty unhealthy. (RSI, carpal tunnel, shoulder/lower back issues) 2. It's mentally taxing. Requires 8-10 hours a day of heavy practise while appealing regular jobs involve social interacting and being dynamic, something you don't get as a progamer. 3. Living in a team house isn't really something i think most people age 25+ are interested in. It's a teenage/early 20's kind of thing that i think gets old really fast. | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On February 06 2012 21:01 Lysenko wrote: I'm not a great SC2 player, by the way, but the bias in the SC2 community toward younger players is cultural rather than physiological. Haha btw I had a guy chatting with me in game who said that he hadn't ever heard of someone pushing 40 making Plat before. I told him there were a bunch of people my age playing SC2 and that some of them were better and some were worse.I think his mind was blown. | ||
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Spieltor
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Avean
Norway449 Posts
 Work, girlfriend, family and travel is so much more important than to roflstomp someone in a game. When i was 15-16 i was insane in fps games, i would do some insane stuff like 360 turnarounds in quake and headshot people mid-air. My precision were just ridiculous. I am 29 now, i am probably 0.5% of what i was back then but thats due to i choose to not play that often. When i was a kid i could sit 9-10 hours straight gaming. Now its more like 1 hour a day. | ||
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