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On December 31 2011 00:58 mullinmm wrote:
God damn it, I know Nestea is looking a little weak lately, by how does GOM so consistently manage to have MVP and Nestea meet early in the tournament rather than later? IN THE GROUP STAGE?
Everyone knows that what the GSL needed months ago already was an MVP vs. Nestea final. And foreigner favorite Idra ends up in the same group? disastrous.
i actually dont want to ever see a mvp nestea final  , the games will not be good and the winner is almost 100% predictable .
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Nestea looking rather good today actualy vs Curious, so i'd pick him to go on. His ZvZ was a bit slumping but i would still favor him over Lucky and Idra.
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lol idra and sen got the shortend of the stick
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Holy crap group C and poor oGs in group B 
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Maybe I haven't been up to date, but why's everyone saying "poor MC"? He seems to be back in form, and when he played Leenock in one of the gomtv tournaments (I forget which one) he beat him pretty decisively and even said he barely practiced. I don't really know about the story of MC vs Supernova/forGG though.....
Anyways, great groups. Tons of skilled players now, finally. There don't seem to be any "scrubs" in Code S anymore. I'm also going to assume that Idra/Sen are getting eliminated.
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On December 31 2011 01:00 shadymmj wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 00:28 darkest44 wrote:
Leenock destroyed Forgg multiple times in a row on ladder on his stream. Time for the sillly hype ("he's gonna win code s without dropping a single map, BW, BW, BW) to die down probably. He has good timing attacks but after watching his stream, his macro is not near MVP, Jjaki's level yet. I think the days of winning GSL only with timing attacks have died off now that there's many big maps, you need to have macro skills now too. He might make it through, but I highly doubt he'll do it without losing like some have been claiming.. it is true that people tend to exaggerate him but people who hate on BW for whatever reason conveniently ignore the fact that MVP was the #1 modern BW player who switched. also 50% of code S is made up of ex BW pros. if you asked them, they will tell you MVP came straight from sc2.
it's not even a matter of whether or not i think Leenock can beat ForGG
i just think it's an extremely ridiculous move to select him in the Ro32, where losing to him puts you halfway to code A
if he is really that confident that he can crush him, why beat him down now, when you can crush a bunch of weak terrans and then deal with him in the ro8 where you already have modest prize winnings
On December 31 2011 00:58 mullinmm wrote:
God damn it, I know Nestea is looking a little weak lately, by how does GOM so consistently manage to have MVP and Nestea meet early in the tournament rather than later? IN THE GROUP STAGE?
Everyone knows that what the GSL needed months ago already was an MVP vs. Nestea final. And foreigner favorite Idra ends up in the same group? disastrous.
it's just luck
wolf talked about this on GSL stream once - they draw random groups by picking names out of a hat, not figuratively, but out of a literal hat
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Groups A, B, C: Stupidly hard.
Groups D, G, H: Stupidly easy.
And I thought Blizzard was having a hard time with balance.
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oGs teamkill much..... and with leenock doing as well as he is i bet we'll be seeing 2 oGs players down to code A from the start (unless MC can dominate Leenock like he did in blizzcup... MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA)
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if he is really that confident that he can crush him, why beat him down now, when you can crush a bunch of weak terrans and then deal with him in the ro8 where you already have modest prize winnings
LOL, please read how the picks worked for Leenock. He HAD to pick from Tier 4 and the only other terran was GuMiHo who is his teammate (Leenock is not MMA...)
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wow Idra has the hardest group, I rate Lucky over Nestea though!
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On December 31 2011 01:30 mbr2321 wrote:
Groups A, B, C: Stupidly hard.
Groups D, G, H: Stupidly easy.
And I thought Blizzard was having a hard time with balance.
id love to see you come remotely close to beating any of the players in groups D G H.
i mean D is the easiest for sure. but G and H? are you kidding me
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that is one crazzy group. i have faith idra!!!
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On December 30 2011 14:57 xGrief wrote:
Leenock wants to repeat MC's mistake by picking Fin it seems. It's so perfect that MC is also in that group.
I think these groups were all randomly selected. I don't like the random selection because look at all the teamkills that are going to go down in the very first round. I just think that doing a group selection process for Ro32 wouldn't have been that big of a deal and we wouldn't see groups with 3 MvP players or 3 oGs players.
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It was clear GOM had to change the group selection system to give us atleast 1 good final compared to the 0 good finals we had in 2011. But with groups like these all the top players will knock each other out before the Ro16 even takes place, TT. They should have just arranged the groups instead of randomizing them...
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cool, GO IDRA!, unfortunately he has to play nestea mvp -_- hoping for the best
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On December 31 2011 01:35 ShuttingFromTheSky wrote:
It was clear GOM had to change the group selection system to give us atleast 1 good final compared to the 0 good finals we had in 2011. But with groups like these all the top players will knock each other out before the Ro16 even takes place, TT. They should have just arranged the groups instead of randomizing them...
You didn't see Leenock vs Jjakji did you?
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Wtf how do people think that group C is the group of death? It can't be group of death if there's two clear favorites + two other guys... Group B or F are both way harder
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On December 31 2011 01:30 mbr2321 wrote:
Groups A, B, C: Stupidly hard.
Groups D, G, H: Stupidly easy.
And I thought Blizzard was having a hard time with balance.
You're selling Bomber, Curious, and Oz too short. They are easily three of the best players of their respective races (Oz is the best Protoss in my opinion). Bomber has been slumping recently though and Curious's Ro32 group last GSL was really tough (Mvp, aLive, MarineKing).
aLive is known for being dirty in practice and he's always been consistently providing good games. Happy has always been improving and last season he looked ridiculously good. He 2-0ed his group (GuMiho, DRG, Bomber) and didn't lose until he met Oz. MarineKing is kind of like Bomber, where he hasn't been doing as well recently, but he's a very strong player and has the potential to beat everyone in this group. Brown 2-0ed SUPERSTAR, Ryung, and LosirA. SUPERSTAR may be the coolest player, but I'll admit he's not that good and Ryung is bad at TvP, but beating LosirA in straight macro games, that's proving something. Brown is really good.
Puzzle is one of the best Protoss players and he has been consistently bringing good games. PartinG is like Brown in that he's up and coming but I'm a bit less convinced with his results, but we'll have to see. Keen and NaDa are destined to be in a perpetual battle that will not end until Keen somehow manages to beat NaDa. These two are really good and always bring good games when they play.
I would probably agree that Group H is the "easiest," but none of these groups are "Stupidly easy." Perhaps in comparison to Groups A, B, and C, but that's because those groups are stacked with 10 GSL victories and BoxeR. I also don't really understand your comment about balance, but calling groups D, G, and H "easy" is ridiculous and unjustified. Look at the groups last season, there were definitely "easier" groups then those, GSL is improving and that's all that really matters.
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LOL poor IdrA and lucky MMA, fOrgg should have an easy route too unless MC beasts it
MVP teamkill group is kinda sad to see =(
should be crazy games though most groups are pretty even 
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Lucky and Nestea to advance!
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