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On December 31 2011 00:34 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2011 19:52 DaCruise wrote:
I actually think Idra has a good shot of making it out of the group.
He will 99% lose to MVP but Nestea doesnt look so strong atm and Lucky got 4-0´d by Stephano. Ofc Lucky is still a good player but Idra can take him out imo. Man you guys are all so idealistic. Nestea was in a minor slump. He still has amazing ZvZ. Idra's ZvZ has never been exceptional. If anything, Idra has a better shot against MVP since ZvT is his best match-up. But seeing as how MVP only needs to practice TvZ, he'll have something special planned for every map. I agree that Lucky's ZvZ is questionable - so that's really the only bright spot here for Greg.
Minor slump? Nah he jsut isn't good.
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On December 31 2011 00:39 acrimoneyius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 00:32 Hider wrote:On December 31 2011 00:26 lykkekage wrote:
My Predictions
Grp A
#1 - BoxeR (If he is lucky here, he only has to play TvT, thats assuming that Jjakji beats Sen, which is likely, plus neither GanZi or Jjakji's TvT is really that good
#2 - GanZi (Can definately beat Sen in TvZ, the question is .. GanZi or Jjakji? Im gonna say GanZi)
Grp B
Hard one to predict, it all depends on Fin to be honest. I dont see SuperNova making it out of this.
So its either Leenock & Fin, MC & Leenock or MC & Fin
Grp C
#1 - Mvp (Even though its a stron group, Mvp is the strongest player here, even though the group is pretty open)
#2 - NesTea or IdrA (Depends how their ZvZ goes, they might have to face each other twice, their ZvZ seems pretty close)
Grp D
#1 - Bomber (He is definately gonna beat InCa (how did Inca get into Code S ...) then I assume that Curious will beat Oz, since Oz's PvZ isnt the best, plus he 4-0'd him in the last Code A finals. This makes it a battle between Bomber & Curious for first place)
#2 - Curious (See above)
Grp E
#1 - MMA (Simple, he is better than the other guys in this group)
#2 - GuMiho (He can beat both Zenio & YuGiOh, but not MMA)
Grp F
#1 - DRG (I think he is the strongest in this group)
#2 - sC (If he plays up to his best, if not, then i'd say JYP)
Grp G
#1 - MKP (Its between him or aLive for first place imo, depends how their match goes)
#2 - aLive (Not sure if Brown is any good .. But aLive has better TvT than Happy)
Grp H
A tough one again, everyone can get out of this in my opinion Funny how you dont consider lucky to advanace over nestea? Nestea hasn't done anything for 6 months while losing to haypro and other non top players. How is that funny? Nestea has one of the highest win rates of any player in any matchup in the world. So yeah...he's the favorite dude.
Oh yeh sure. Now it just got even funnier as results from 1 year ago is very reelvant today. ^^
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What the fuck?
Leenock PICKED ForGG?
That's not balls of steel, that's just hubris
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On December 31 2011 00:45 Zanno wrote:
What the fuck?
Leenock PICKED ForGG?
That's not balls of steel, that's just hubris
.... reading is hard
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Poor Idra, I hope his ZvZ is well enough, he has no practice partners like Losira or Leenock.
And Mvp won the wcg.. so I would bet on him to be the first place of the group
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On December 31 2011 00:45 Zanno wrote:
What the fuck?
Leenock PICKED ForGG?
That's not balls of steel, that's just hubris
Leenock has something like 95% winrate against him, why would he not pick him ?
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On December 31 2011 00:47 Ryler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 00:45 Zanno wrote:
What the fuck?
Leenock PICKED ForGG?
That's not balls of steel, that's just hubris .... reading is hard
Since it stands on the gom site that he picked him, yea it seems hard for some ppl.
Code S Ro.32 Group Nomination (will not be broadcasted)
3. The Champion and the Runner-up have the privilege to choose an opponent from Tier 4.
http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=214360&cid=0&kind=8
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On December 31 2011 00:45 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 00:39 acrimoneyius wrote:On December 31 2011 00:32 Hider wrote:On December 31 2011 00:26 lykkekage wrote:
My Predictions
Grp A
#1 - BoxeR (If he is lucky here, he only has to play TvT, thats assuming that Jjakji beats Sen, which is likely, plus neither GanZi or Jjakji's TvT is really that good
#2 - GanZi (Can definately beat Sen in TvZ, the question is .. GanZi or Jjakji? Im gonna say GanZi)
Grp B
Hard one to predict, it all depends on Fin to be honest. I dont see SuperNova making it out of this.
So its either Leenock & Fin, MC & Leenock or MC & Fin
Grp C
#1 - Mvp (Even though its a stron group, Mvp is the strongest player here, even though the group is pretty open)
#2 - NesTea or IdrA (Depends how their ZvZ goes, they might have to face each other twice, their ZvZ seems pretty close)
Grp D
#1 - Bomber (He is definately gonna beat InCa (how did Inca get into Code S ...) then I assume that Curious will beat Oz, since Oz's PvZ isnt the best, plus he 4-0'd him in the last Code A finals. This makes it a battle between Bomber & Curious for first place)
#2 - Curious (See above)
Grp E
#1 - MMA (Simple, he is better than the other guys in this group)
#2 - GuMiho (He can beat both Zenio & YuGiOh, but not MMA)
Grp F
#1 - DRG (I think he is the strongest in this group)
#2 - sC (If he plays up to his best, if not, then i'd say JYP)
Grp G
#1 - MKP (Its between him or aLive for first place imo, depends how their match goes)
#2 - aLive (Not sure if Brown is any good .. But aLive has better TvT than Happy)
Grp H
A tough one again, everyone can get out of this in my opinion Funny how you dont consider lucky to advanace over nestea? Nestea hasn't done anything for 6 months while losing to haypro and other non top players. How is that funny? Nestea has one of the highest win rates of any player in any matchup in the world. So yeah...he's the favorite dude. Oh yeh sure. Now it just got even funnier as results from 1 year ago is very reelvant today. ^^
What did Lucky do to prove he's better in zvz then Nestea ?
Sorry but even now i would agree to take result over a year from nestea to hardly any results of a Lucky.
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On December 31 2011 00:44 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 00:34 c0ldfusion wrote:On December 30 2011 19:52 DaCruise wrote:
I actually think Idra has a good shot of making it out of the group.
He will 99% lose to MVP but Nestea doesnt look so strong atm and Lucky got 4-0´d by Stephano. Ofc Lucky is still a good player but Idra can take him out imo. Man you guys are all so idealistic. Nestea was in a minor slump. He still has amazing ZvZ. Idra's ZvZ has never been exceptional. If anything, Idra has a better shot against MVP since ZvT is his best match-up. But seeing as how MVP only needs to practice TvZ, he'll have something special planned for every map. I agree that Lucky's ZvZ is questionable - so that's really the only bright spot here for Greg. Minor slump? Nah he jsut isn't good.
He won 3 GSLs, as much as you can say about a player you dont win that much without being really good. Idras ZvT only looks good when hes playing against foreigners really, unless he changed his predictable style ZvT i dont see him beating MVP at all
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oGs FIN, MC and Supernova in the same group is epic FAILLLL .. not good GOM.
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On December 31 2011 00:37 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 00:28 darkest44 wrote:
Leenock destroyed Forgg multiple times in a row on ladder on his stream. Time for the sillly hype ("he's gonna win code s without dropping a single map, BW, BW, BW) to die down probably. He has good timing attacks but after watching his stream, his macro is not near MVP, Jjaki's level yet. I think the days of winning GSL only with timing attacks have died off now that there's many big maps, you need to have macro skills now too. He might make it through, but I highly doubt he'll do it without losing like some have been claiming.. Well, for all you know, forgg could just be messing around on ladder. I think the real problem for him is that he doesn't have enough quality zergs to practice against in the oGs house. Hopefully he can recruit some outside zergs to help him prepare.
Forgg streams for like 3+ hours sometimes and streams almost every day ... I highly doubt he would waste that much of his practice time only "messing around". I seen him use same strats he used in GSL. He might not stream the exact builds he plans to do in his next match, or he might, but either way I'm sure he's at least trying to win and not just wasting hours of time.
Leenock is just really good vs cheese and timing attacks with his sick micro and mostly safe play, that's why we often see him in epic macro games. And Forgg seems to be relying mostly on timing attacks/quirky rushes atm.
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Sen and Idra are screwed. Idra's group is just LOL and Sen's ZvT has always been his worst iirc
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Portugal249 Posts
Heh, sen has no chance neither has Idra.
Group B is a hell of a group, the hardest imo. Group H being the weaker one imo.
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WHAT THE FUCK IDRA LOL HAHA. MVP + NESTEA...
lol you have lucky in your group but there aint any luck there XD
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On December 31 2011 00:45 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 00:39 acrimoneyius wrote:On December 31 2011 00:32 Hider wrote:On December 31 2011 00:26 lykkekage wrote:
My Predictions
Grp A
#1 - BoxeR (If he is lucky here, he only has to play TvT, thats assuming that Jjakji beats Sen, which is likely, plus neither GanZi or Jjakji's TvT is really that good
#2 - GanZi (Can definately beat Sen in TvZ, the question is .. GanZi or Jjakji? Im gonna say GanZi)
Grp B
Hard one to predict, it all depends on Fin to be honest. I dont see SuperNova making it out of this.
So its either Leenock & Fin, MC & Leenock or MC & Fin
Grp C
#1 - Mvp (Even though its a stron group, Mvp is the strongest player here, even though the group is pretty open)
#2 - NesTea or IdrA (Depends how their ZvZ goes, they might have to face each other twice, their ZvZ seems pretty close)
Grp D
#1 - Bomber (He is definately gonna beat InCa (how did Inca get into Code S ...) then I assume that Curious will beat Oz, since Oz's PvZ isnt the best, plus he 4-0'd him in the last Code A finals. This makes it a battle between Bomber & Curious for first place)
#2 - Curious (See above)
Grp E
#1 - MMA (Simple, he is better than the other guys in this group)
#2 - GuMiho (He can beat both Zenio & YuGiOh, but not MMA)
Grp F
#1 - DRG (I think he is the strongest in this group)
#2 - sC (If he plays up to his best, if not, then i'd say JYP)
Grp G
#1 - MKP (Its between him or aLive for first place imo, depends how their match goes)
#2 - aLive (Not sure if Brown is any good .. But aLive has better TvT than Happy)
Grp H
A tough one again, everyone can get out of this in my opinion Funny how you dont consider lucky to advanace over nestea? Nestea hasn't done anything for 6 months while losing to haypro and other non top players. How is that funny? Nestea has one of the highest win rates of any player in any matchup in the world. So yeah...he's the favorite dude. Oh yeh sure. Now it just got even funnier as results from 1 year ago is very reelvant today. ^^
Dude, you're an idiot. You're going to argue consistancy when he's the most consistant? K.
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God damn it, I know Nestea is looking a little weak lately, by how does GOM so consistently manage to have MVP and Nestea meet early in the tournament rather than later? IN THE GROUP STAGE?
Everyone knows that what the GSL needed months ago already was an MVP vs. Nestea final. And foreigner favorite Idra ends up in the same group? disastrous.
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Portugal249 Posts
Its random dude random. Funny how were the odds of another Keen vs NaDa? :p
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On December 31 2011 00:28 darkest44 wrote:
Leenock destroyed Forgg multiple times in a row on ladder on his stream. Time for the sillly hype ("he's gonna win code s without dropping a single map, BW, BW, BW) to die down probably. He has good timing attacks but after watching his stream, his macro is not near MVP, Jjaki's level yet. I think the days of winning GSL only with timing attacks have died off now that there's many big maps, you need to have macro skills now too. He might make it through, but I highly doubt he'll do it without losing like some have been claiming..
it is true that people tend to exaggerate him
but people who hate on BW for whatever reason conveniently ignore the fact that MVP was the #1 modern BW player who switched. also 50% of code S is made up of ex BW pros.
if you asked them, they will tell you MVP came straight from sc2.
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On December 31 2011 00:44 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 00:34 c0ldfusion wrote:On December 30 2011 19:52 DaCruise wrote:
I actually think Idra has a good shot of making it out of the group.
He will 99% lose to MVP but Nestea doesnt look so strong atm and Lucky got 4-0´d by Stephano. Ofc Lucky is still a good player but Idra can take him out imo. Man you guys are all so idealistic. Nestea was in a minor slump. He still has amazing ZvZ. Idra's ZvZ has never been exceptional. If anything, Idra has a better shot against MVP since ZvT is his best match-up. But seeing as how MVP only needs to practice TvZ, he'll have something special planned for every map. I agree that Lucky's ZvZ is questionable - so that's really the only bright spot here for Greg. Minor slump? Nah he jsut isn't good.
I'm not entirely sure how you could possibly back up saying that nestea isn't good with any amount of quantifiable information. He is the second most successful sc2 player in the world. Is MVP the only good player to you?
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