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SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2242 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 18:20:25
December 22 2011 18:20 GMT
#401
Why would they pick her up? Just because she's female... that's like chauvinism the other way around, if she would have been male no pro team would have ever recruited her...
Cogito, ergo Toss
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
December 22 2011 18:21 GMT
#402
On December 23 2011 03:16 SwirlQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 02:42 diehilde wrote:
On December 23 2011 02:34 creepcolony wrote:
Female gamers get a lot more attention than a corresponding male counterpart. Therefore it makes sense for teams marketing wise to pick up those top females, even if they cant compete with the best or even second best males (yet?).

I dont see any problems for anyone coming up from this move. So well yeah, congratz Flo, congratz Quantic.

Thats some weird logic. Yeah, they get more attention than a corresponding male counterpart - but that doesnt mean it makes sense for teams to pick em up. A corresponding male counterpart in this case would be a high masters player. How much attention does a normal high masters male get? None. So yeah, she gets more attention than none, but still nowhere near the attention a well performing male progamer gets. Ofc it depends on the investment made. Most likely she gets a tiny fraction of what the male players get.

Sex sells there are alot of players who are way better then her who get zero recognition. ):

Same goes for our foreign stars like Idra, sheth, Kiwikaki etc. compared to Korean players. Clearly for playing it sexy.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
December 22 2011 18:24 GMT
#403
On December 23 2011 03:20 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Why would they pick her up? Just because she's female... that's like chauvinism the other way around, if she would have been male no pro team would have ever recruited her...


Why would Dignitas pick up BlinG? Just because he's brittish. If he would have been Korean no pro team would have ever recruited him...
BigLighthouse
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom424 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 18:25:33
December 22 2011 18:25 GMT
#404
On December 23 2011 03:24 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 03:20 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Why would they pick her up? Just because she's female... that's like chauvinism the other way around, if she would have been male no pro team would have ever recruited her...


Why would Dignitas pick up BlinG? Just because he's brittish. If he would have been Korean no pro team would have ever recruited him...


He actually won an event they held. But yes, i see the point you are making
Akta
Profile Joined February 2011
447 Posts
December 22 2011 18:30 GMT
#405
Don't see a huge need to whiteknight the female players. Having to prove themselves by being good at the game is probably one of the best motivators they could have.
Trizzen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway74 Posts
December 22 2011 18:43 GMT
#406
Wow, I can't beleive the ammount of terrible posters here. Terrible posters or secretly members of Quantic Gaming that can't accept the fact that Quantic Gaming picked up a female with a passion for playing Starcraft II to play for their roster. It must be a frustrating as hell that Flo is blessed with good looks aswell and can play the game well. What the hell is wrong with you people? Go make a damned blog about how females have no place in gaming communities somewhere else. I don't get all this negativity.

Go out, get some fresh air or something.
Death is certain. Life is not.
kappadevin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
December 22 2011 18:44 GMT
#407
I don't agree with any team signing a female player when there are male players that would easily out preform them. To me, it's just as sexist as the people on here trolling her about her gender because she really didn't "earn" her spot on the team outside of being a woman. If she had won some major non-female tournament, or at least done well at it, this wouldn't even be a discussion because it would be clear that she had shown she had the ability to play with the best and win.

I am all for supporting female gamers, but this isn't soccer/football where women are already at a clear physical disadvantage and need to be given a special league to compete against other women. There's really no reason, aside from dealing with the trolls as she already said, that a woman would have a more difficult time becoming the best of the best at a game like Starcraft 2. Obviously she is a woman, so in this situation it works out in her favor, and I think she made the right choice here; I just don't think Quantic did. There are hundreds of more talented male gamers who are frothing at the mouth for the opportunity to join a pro-gaming team.
Little Tortilla Boy
FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
December 22 2011 18:49 GMT
#408
hmm. i wonder if we will witness the first successful female sc2 player. even though she only got the position because shes a girl "more colorful roster," There really isnt a problem with that. hope she does well, its not like shes taking the job of anyone that really matters.
Vinnythechin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6 Posts
December 22 2011 18:51 GMT
#409
Why everyone hating on my sexy friend FLO! Yes she is a girl, yes she is terran, 2 advantages to gaming in sc2 by far but still have to give her some credit for putting herself out there and focusing on a goal to become the best, Take initiative in your gaming if you want to be pro, stop typing your rants behind a screen and prove yourself ingame. Play and STFU or Be played and continue being stuck on your bronze ladders.
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
December 22 2011 18:53 GMT
#410
Flo fighting! Damn the haters; they are jealous bitter nerds with no skill in Starcraft or life in general.
Turn off the radio
FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
December 22 2011 18:54 GMT
#411
On December 23 2011 03:51 Vinnythechin wrote:
Why everyone hating on my sexy friend FLO! Yes she is a girl, yes she is terran, 2 advantages to gaming in sc2 by far but still have to give her some credit for putting herself out there and focusing on a goal to become the best, Take initiative in your gaming if you want to be pro, stop typing your rants behind a screen and prove yourself ingame. Play and STFU or Be played and continue being stuck on your bronze ladders.


you seem a little too mad for the situation. i have no problem with a team picking up a player because their a girl. but to say "just prove yourself ingame?" she didnt really prove herself as a top gamer. she proved herself and one of the best FEMALE gamers. so as i agree with your point, you need to chill on the ranting.
Doc.Rivers
Profile Joined December 2011
United States404 Posts
December 22 2011 18:56 GMT
#412
On December 23 2011 03:44 kappadevin wrote:
There are hundreds of more talented male gamers who are frothing at the mouth for the opportunity to join a pro-gaming team.



And not one of them has the revenue potential for Quantic that Flo does nor can they join female-only leagues. So yea, if you're gonna make the argument that players should be recruited based on skill only, you should probably at least make an effort to explain why you think that's the case .
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
December 22 2011 18:58 GMT
#413
On December 23 2011 03:24 Longshank wrote:
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On December 23 2011 03:20 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Why would they pick her up? Just because she's female... that's like chauvinism the other way around, if she would have been male no pro team would have ever recruited her...


Why would Dignitas pick up BlinG? Just because he's brittish. If he would have been Korean no pro team would have ever recruited him...

Exactly! lol... Flo might not have made it to MLG pool play but there are plenty of players with results similar to hers on teams like this. Getting signed to a team doesn't mean you have to be the next Idra, Stephano, or Naniwa, or even a solid tournament performer like a Sheth, White-Ra, or Demuslim. Aren't there already some players on quantic whose names I don't know because they haven't done shit?

There are also plenty of female gamers whose names I don't know because they haven't done shit either. Flo is the one I do remember because she has been consistently trying to compete seriously, even if she hasn't had outstanding success yet.

Grats and GL to both Quantic and Flo =]
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
December 22 2011 19:00 GMT
#414
On December 23 2011 03:56 Doc.Rivers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 03:44 kappadevin wrote:
There are hundreds of more talented male gamers who are frothing at the mouth for the opportunity to join a pro-gaming team.



And not one of them has the revenue potential for Quantic that Flo does nor can they join female-only leagues. So yea, if you're gonna make the argument that players should be recruited based on skill only, you should probably at least make an effort to explain why you think that's the case .


this is the best point in the entire 21 pages of this forum
wraggy1234
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom135 Posts
December 22 2011 19:05 GMT
#415
soo fit.
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kappadevin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
December 22 2011 19:09 GMT
#416
On December 23 2011 03:56 Doc.Rivers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 03:44 kappadevin wrote:
There are hundreds of more talented male gamers who are frothing at the mouth for the opportunity to join a pro-gaming team.



And not one of them has the revenue potential for Quantic that Flo does nor can they join female-only leagues. So yea, if you're gonna make the argument that players should be recruited based on skill only, you should probably at least make an effort to explain why you think that's the case .


Alright. Lets say you and a woman both apply for the same job. We'll say you both have completely identical qualifications for this position, aside from your gender differences. Now we'll say that she gets hired over you for no given reason aside from the fact that she is a woman.

Is that fair to you? Are you satisfied knowing you lost your shot at a job just because she is of the opposite gender? How is that not sexism?

Also on your point of revenue potential: There has been no evidence that female gamers or even female only leagues bring in more revenue. In fact, the DIVINA tournament had less sponsors and a far smaller viewing base than a slow day at the GSL. So if you are going to make the argument that players should be recruited based on gender, you should probably at least make an effort to explain why you think that's the case .
Little Tortilla Boy
Vinnythechin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6 Posts
December 22 2011 19:10 GMT
#417
On December 23 2011 03:54 FatkiddsLag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 03:51 Vinnythechin wrote:
Why everyone hating on my sexy friend FLO! Yes she is a girl, yes she is terran, 2 advantages to gaming in sc2 by far but still have to give her some credit for putting herself out there and focusing on a goal to become the best, Take initiative in your gaming if you want to be pro, stop typing your rants behind a screen and prove yourself ingame. Play and STFU or Be played and continue being stuck on your bronze ladders.


you seem a little too mad for the situation. i have no problem with a team picking up a player because their a girl. but to say "just prove yourself ingame?" she didnt really prove herself as a top gamer. she proved herself and one of the best FEMALE gamers. so as i agree with your point, you need to chill on the ranting.


mad lol not even close, more like laughing at all the haters, and she did prove herself as a player by attending these events and to be able to compete for some strive shows more than those who can't or won't. How many people talk shit in this game but never step up when its time to play.
Tryxtira
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden572 Posts
December 22 2011 19:11 GMT
#418
Wow, Quantic keep showing their style! Keep it up guys!
msl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany477 Posts
December 22 2011 19:14 GMT
#419
On December 23 2011 03:20 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Why would they pick her up? Just because she's female... that's like chauvinism the other way around, if she would have been male no pro team would have ever recruited her...


Chauvinism the other way around? So Quantic believes woman are superior to man and hired a woman? Well, good for them.
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PhilleeC
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States46 Posts
December 22 2011 19:16 GMT
#420
She's cute *-*
Glad you got rid of the old name ._."
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