EPTFlo Joins Quantic - Page 19
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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KoDo
United States683 Posts
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onedayclose
United States1145 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On December 22 2011 09:29 YuTz wrote: she is definitely the most skilled female player I've ever seen play in game myself.... I don't know of a better one in NA. Congrats!! Megumixbear... On December 22 2011 09:29 Telcontar wrote: Here we go. Do you ask this for every pro that gets signed by a team? Didn't think so. I do, if I haven't heard of them.. | ||
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DarK[A]
United States217 Posts
On December 22 2011 09:29 Telcontar wrote: Here we go. Do you ask this for every pro that gets signed by a team? Didn't think so. I'd assume it doesn't get asked because we've seen that most pros are high GM. The only other female Starcraft player that I've personally heard of is Ailuj, and hey, great for her, but she's only Diamond level. The question just had to be asked. :-/ | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
First, I can't help but wonder how different the community's reaction to this would have been if the slayers_eve thing had gone differently. I believe that backlash started because of the way Eve's signing was publicized, if slayers hadn't said that they were signing her because of her looks but had let her play some games and speak with her skills, then I think we would have a lot less of this "is she good enough" BS every time there's a female player involved in anything. Second, I want to say that I firmly believe flo "is good enough" and fits well on quantic. Although quantic does have Sase and Naniwa, they also have a pretty big "b-team" of players like Zelniq, Theogenis, Shuffle - arguably even inka and destiny - who are in GM or are GM level, but not tournament-winner good. A lot of those guys did top45 or top36 at some mlg or another this year, so they may have more proven results than flo, but flo has gotten noticed without being in a serious organization and there's no reason that flo couldn't be just as good as those guys or even better. Third, quantic is the team that picked up Destiny, they are definitely looking for players who come with built-in publicity, so having the first female progamer on a serious team fits well with that. | ||
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KoDo
United States683 Posts
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Spec
Taiwan931 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On December 23 2011 01:15 Spec wrote: I hope this means she'll stop bunker rushing Zergs. Only if satini and goody stop as well... | ||
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RoMGraViTy
United States314 Posts
On December 23 2011 01:07 GreEny K wrote: Megumixbear... I do, if I haven't heard of them.. PMSAurora | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On December 23 2011 00:33 omgryebread wrote: But "girls" is a term that refers to adults. It's the female counterpart of "guys". The same word happens to also be used for children, but "primarily" is your own judgment, and I don't agree with you."Guy" is still a term that refers to adults, whereas "girl" refers primarily to children. There isn't a good casual term for adult females, since "gal" just sounds really stupid, and that sucks. I mean listen to yourself: on the one hand you're criticizing people because they use the term "girl" to refer to a young adult woman, and on the other hand you're asserting that the term "girl" is not used to refer to adult women. How is that consistent? Also, it's in the dictionary (definition 1c. is the one that applies. Notice that it's not flagged as even "sometimes offensive".) | ||
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zineryt
United Kingdom53 Posts
On December 23 2011 01:34 qrs wrote: But "girls" is a term that refers to adults. It's the female counterpart of "guys". The same word happens to also be used for children, but "primarily" is your own judgment, and I don't agree with you. I mean listen to yourself: on the one hand you're criticizing people because they use the term "girl" to refer to a young adult woman, and on the other hand you're asserting that the term "girl" is not used to refer to adult women. How is that consistent? Also, it's in the dictionary (definition 1c. is the one that applies. Notice that it's not flagged as even "sometimes offensive".) 1c is a subset of 1d and 1d is classed as sometimes offensive. Also picking a random online dictionary to support your case is worth nothing. The word girl is used by a lot of people to refer to women but it doesn't mean it should be. | ||
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SkullZ9
Belgium2048 Posts
On December 22 2011 09:29 Telcontar wrote: Here we go. Do you ask this for every pro that gets signed by a team? Didn't think so. Actually, this is intelligent to judge her on her performance on the ladder and not on her sex. I think he could ask this for a male progamer, i don't see any problem.. | ||
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Apollo_Shards
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Meanwhile congrats to both parties. | ||
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Bluerain
United States348 Posts
On December 23 2011 00:14 Bedrock wrote: Read this out loud.. "Sarcasm" You'll get the joke one day. u dont get how to use sarcasm correctly, not the other guy's fault | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Flo will travel and play alongside the rest of the Quantic players to domestic and international events I seriously hope she does. Finally a press release about a girl joining a team, that doesn't sound so lame as "we added said female, because our team needs a female" Quantic fighting! | ||
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Havek
Denmark20 Posts
 I hope you will be happy on your new team and you can develop as a player in the best way possible :D Best of luck in the future! | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On December 23 2011 01:41 zineryt wrote: 1) I think you're rather exaggerating when you say that a dictionary's word is "worth nothing". Dictionaries document the language as it is used. They're certainly a better proof of a word's usage than a single person's opinion is.1c is a subset of 1d and 1d is classed as sometimes offensive. Also picking a random online dictionary to support your case is worth nothing. The word girl is used by a lot of people to refer to women but it doesn't mean it should be. 2) Merriam-Webster is not "a random online dictionary". It's probably the biggest/most respected dictionary publisher in the United States. Obviously I linked to an online version of it because I can't link you to a paper version. 3) What dictionary would you prefer? The OED? I can't link you to that because it's subscription-protected (you might have online access through your university, if you're affiliated with one), but the relevant definition there is 2a., "a young or relatively young woman". Again, no mention of offensiveness, though 2b (which is their parallel definition to M-W's 1d, a woman of any age) mentions "often derogatory", similarly to M-W's "sometimes offensive". 4) When you say that 1c is "a subset of 1d", I assume you mean that "a young unmarried woman" is a subset of "a single or married woman of any age". If you're concluding on that basis that the qualification "sometimes offensive", applied to 1d, applies to 1c as well, then the same logic would dictate that it applies to 1a too, "a female child from birth to adulthood". Since no one is arguing that, the logic is clearly flawed. 5) On the contrary, the fact that the dictionary marks only one of its definitions as "sometimes offensive" implies that only that one is "sometimes offensive". 6) Lastly, when you say, "The word girl is used by a lot of people to refer to women but it doesn't mean it should be," aren't you betraying that you're the one with an agenda? If many people use the word to refer to women of a certain age/point in life, without any derogatory connotation intended (and the dictionaries indeed support this usage) then I don't see why you should find it objectionable. I can see why you might prefer having separate terms for "child" and "young woman", as we have with "boy" and "guy", but until a separate term for the female counterpart of "guy" actually exists (without sounding as stilted as "young woman"), then trying to get everyone to use the generic term "woman" rather than the word that says what they want to say is the sort of language crusade that I'm happy not to be a part of. | ||
purecarnagge
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Its not like Haypro had done shit lately and look at the tear he went on out of no where... If Flo going to consistently win touranments with top pro's... Not right now. Is she capable of curb stomping you into oblivion yes. Is she doing what ever other pro gramer is doing. Yes, taking time off from other stuff dedicating her life to SC2 and trying to get better... Not sure why all the hate. | ||
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Snijjer
United States989 Posts
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