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On December 18 2011 13:31 woob wrote:
this may sound insensitive, but im curious about pneumothorax,
is it fatal, terminal? or can it be cured
In the most common cases of recurrent pneumothorax, bullae resection and pleurodesis (surgery) can be performed to stop it from happening, while in the acute setting, treatment is mostly done through a chest tube, which will alleviate symptoms and drain the air from the pleural cavity.. Spontaneous pneumothorax is normally mild, meaning that the area of the lung compromised isn't too large, so it isn't really fatal or dangerous, many patients take weeks to consult because chest pain isn't too severe, while others have more pain and breathlessness.
In other cases, mostly after severe trauma, a pneumothorax can collapse a lung completely, and compress the organs in the mediastinum, like the trachea and the heart. This can produce a circulatory collapse and death, this is known as tension pneumothorax, and it requires emergency treatment. This is extremely unlikely to happen in spontaneous (or primary) pneumothorax.
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On December 18 2011 15:36 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 13:31 woob wrote:
this may sound insensitive, but im curious about pneumothorax,
is it fatal, terminal? or can it be cured In the most common cases of recurrent pneumothorax, bullae resection and pleurodesis (surgery) can be performed to stop it from happening, while in the acute setting, treatment is mostly done through a chest tube, which will alleviate symptoms and drain the air from the pleural cavity.. Spontaneous pneumothorax is normally mild, meaning that the area of the lung compromised isn't too large, so it isn't really fatal or dangerous, many patients take weeks to consult because chest pain isn't too severe, while others have more pain and breathlessness. In other cases, mostly after severe trauma, a pneumothorax can collapse a lung completely, and compress the organs in the mediastinum, like the trachea and the heart. This can produce a circulatory collapse and death, this is known as tension pneumothorax, and it requires emergency treatment. This is extremely unlikely to happen in spontaneous (or primary) pneumothorax.
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My eyes start rolling over when you're using those technical words :D
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Stay Strong Recover and come back in good health. Everything else comes secondary!
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Wishing you a speedy recovery sc!
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Poor guy. Some people just have the worst luck with their health. Hope he gets better soon and this wont affect his play to much. Ill throw out a 'sc fighting!!!' for good measure.
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They basically put a tube with 2d cm. into your lung and pump out the blood / air and what ever is there.(The machine looks like the wather bong :D the worst part is that u cant even take a shit because of the pain and pressure) usually It takes 4 day. this is done in full consciousness and if it doesnt help they put another 2 tubes and use laser (I dont even know why but they do) and after this you should be ok in another 3 days. I know this because it happened to me an year ago. But I had no idea that u can survive it on the left side (cause of your heart)
Be strong SC!
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Serious question did this happen because of too much starcraft?
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I hope you get better sC! your an amazing player!
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Dammit why haven't I seen this sooner.
Get well soon sC!
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Man I really love watching sC play, and his series against nestea was amazing. I really hope he can come back from this and regain his terran dominance soon!
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sounds horrible gl to him so good at sc2!
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On December 19 2011 04:21 NIIINO wrote:
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They basically put a tube with 2d cm. into your lung and pump out the blood / air and what ever is there.(The machine looks like the wather bong :D the worst part is that u cant even take a shit because of the pain and pressure) usually It takes 4 day. this is done in full consciousness and if it doesnt help they put another 2 tubes and use laser (I dont even know why but they do) and after this you should be ok in another 3 days. I know this because it happened to me an year ago. But I had no idea that u can survive it on the left side (cause of your heart)
Be strong SC!
You use machines? Here we use the chest tube and a water based "pump" to take the air out.
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:/ That stinks hope this will be the last set back. Get well soon and stay well.
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I've had this condition, he needs to get his lungs scraped so the lungs don't collapse when there is a puncture. Both my lungs collapsed 8 times in 6 months before I had this procedure done. Not had one single collapse since.
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On December 19 2011 04:36 fox77 wrote:
Serious question did this happen because of too much starcraft?
Obviously not...do you really need to ask such questions? He was born with this.
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On December 19 2011 12:03 anzient wrote:
I've had this condition, he needs to get his lungs scraped so the lungs don't collapse when there is a puncture. Both my lungs collapsed 8 times in 6 months before I had this procedure done. Not had one single collapse since.
Scraped? As in running a blade on the surface area of the lungs? Sounds gnarly.
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Let me try to clear up some of the misinformation here. What sC likely has is primary spontaneous pneumothorax.
Pneumothorax is a condition where there is air in the chest in between the lung and the chest wall. This air gets there normally through small tears in the lung that leaks into this space.
Primary, as opposed to secondary, because there is unlikely to be underlying lung disease and the exact cause of it is unknown. However, this kind of pneumothorax happens most commonly in young males, normally with lanky builds. It is thought to be due to minor abnormalities of lung tissue structure. Most people outgrow this problem. However, it is pretty common for it to recur up till the late 20s in either lung.
This is different from secondary pneumothorax which occurs because of underlying lung disease such as COPD which may have bullae - large bubbles on the lung surface that can pop, causing pneumothorax.
Spontaneous pneumothorax as opposed to traumatic pneumothorax. Traumatic pneumothorax happends with severe chest trauma that may crack ribs and damage the lungs.
The treatment depends on how much air is trapped in the chest cavity. Small amounts of air are typical with primary spontaneous pneumothorax. Usually, the lung heals itself in a couple of days and the patient is observed in the hospital for a couple of days and given some oxygen. Some hospitals prefer to treat even the smallest amount of air by sticking in a chest tube just under the armpit under local anaesthesia.
Edit: What the guy above me talked about is pleurodesis. Its a procedure in which said space is obliterated by stimulating fibrosis to occur. This is done by mechanically irritating the lining of this space with rough pads. This can also be done with chemicals. In general, this is usually done for people with cancer in which fluid tends to accumulate in this space and cause a lot of discomfort. Its rare for it to be done for primary spontaneous pneumothorax as it can be overkill - unless these pneumothorax happen very frequently and cause a lot of distress.
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