EPTGOMTV Announcement regarding NaNiWa - Page 14
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terranmoccasin
United States74 Posts
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On December 15 2011 07:17 Nighthawks28 wrote: MLG paid for Bomber, MMA, MVP, and MC for providence. http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mc-mma-bomber-and-mvp-to-mlg-providence So they did pay for 4 koreans. Mindblowing. | ||
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JujuXG
United States373 Posts
Its doesn't deny naniwa to compete for gsl, beside idra and sen are very good choices for code s spot | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:58 Kieofire wrote: You are wrong it got mistranslated, go do your research. Can't really say sorry about someone else's mistake. But if he didn't really say Nani is an "(amateur?) tourney prize hunter" then that would be nice to know. And thanks anyway. | ||
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taLbuk
Madagascar1879 Posts
On December 15 2011 07:19 Zodiac7777 wrote: I thought that anyone and everyone could compete in MLG. yes, but their "invites" get them a paid trip + championship seeding. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On December 15 2011 07:16 Jackle wrote: Exactly, people are nit-picking at GOM's announcement, but fail to see MLG didn't keep it's promise of 4 Korean invites either I give up, keep fighting the good fight, people are angry and will pick and choose their arguments to fit their own personal vendetta's or points to display while ignoring other facts blatantly just to reach their own conclusions. I need to walk away from this entire discussion since it's apparent that people who support Gom in this are moving on, and those who support Naniwa will continue to flame Gom. For every person claiming they are not subscribing to GOM, there is just as many people applauding gom and securing their subscriptions so really, making that point is silly and just being bitter. I hope we can move past all of this in the future, and my best wishes to Naniwa, re-earning his way into code S via the code A prelims, or impressing Gom enough to earn a code S seed in seasons 2-5. I'm out. | ||
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Xax
475 Posts
On December 15 2011 07:11 Xalorian wrote: Again, it's the same story. There is still a lot of bullshit in this. NANIWA DID LOSE IS CODE S SPOT. He was not just a "candidate"... He himself knew that he would have the spot, we all knew it. It was on Gomtv and MLG... If it was an invite or the MLG/GSL exchange, who care? The point is because of what he did during Blizzard Cup (NOT GSL, BLIZZARD CUP!) he just lost is spot. And, you can't punish someone for a rule that was not explicit and hope that the community will all be right with it. You warn him, and then you add a new rule, and it never happen again. Simple right? I will ask for a refund for my GSL ticket, and will harass their sponsors about it... until Naniwa is back in Code S, by a seed or is own way through Code A... I will not follow GSL and will mail their sponsors and blizzard each freaking day until Naniwa got what he went to Korea for. They have the right to do want they want since it's their tournament, but I have the right to be against such a harsh punishement. Have fun harassing their sponsors. Grow up. | ||
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oban
Sweden18 Posts
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2867 Posts
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On December 15 2011 07:19 terranmoccasin wrote: GOM has consistently done a great job of trying to give us, the SC2 fans, what we want. To simply say "fuck Gom, fuck Koreans, boycott!" is really short-sighted and detrimental to SC2 and E-Sports as a whole. Great statement. I don't hate Naniwa, but I definitely think he displayed very poor sportsmanship. His punishment is harsh, but quite justified. Even when they lying to there viewers and fans and are being caught in there lies wtf lol? | ||
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Michaels
419 Posts
On December 15 2011 07:17 Nighthawks28 wrote: MLG paid for Bomber, MMA, MVP, and MC for providence. http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mc-mma-bomber-and-mvp-to-mlg-providence They invite all their champions from past events. | ||
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Cush
United States646 Posts
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thatsundowner
Canada312 Posts
On December 15 2011 07:18 HappyChris wrote: But they did allrdy announce it get it? They didnt announce MMA or DRG got a spot when they won there code S in the MLG exchange program Hihi: Your Official Announcement Pro Circuit Players Competing in the GSL At MLG Columbus, the Top 3 non-Korean finishers will each be placed into GSL Code A. At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows: Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, regardless of country of origin, who doesn't already have Code S status. this says it all Naniwa won a code S spot. Acording to there own rules. the new GSL format didn't specify a code S seed for somebody in the top 3 at MLG who wasn't already in Code S, it specified two code s seeds, nothing about MLG that's the thing about agreements, they can change. we have to wait for MLG to make a statement on this before we know for sure | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
First of all, shouldn't the Code S situation with MLG have been clarified properly ages and ages ago to begin? Now they are coming out with the important information, now that people are understandably upset. How are they treating us foreign fans? We do not have access to any of the Korean sites where all that might have been written down. Or did this Code S seed business even exist anywhere except the minds of the people involved in the GSL before the Naniwa incident? Naturally there is reason to doubt that it did! Second, why wasn't Nestea punished for his abysmal games versus MVP then in the Code S finals at Blizzcon? Are you kidding me? How is that not a double standard? What about the incredibly bad games of Top who got 4-0d? Yeah they all "tried", so what? There was price money on the line and the GSL reputation. GOMTV literally admitted in the post that the negative perception of the incident influenced their choice not to give the invite to Naniwa. The way I see it, they have no backbone to stand up against the negative outlash and admit they messed up the tournament format and those games should not have been played. Instead Mr Chae made silly statements about "wanting to see the progamer Naniwa not Johan Lucchesi". He's a talented progamer in a foreign country, why the hell does he have to dance for the amusement of Koreans like a puppet? Sorry, but I do not accept that post at all. | ||
itsjustatank
Hong Kong9179 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:33 GOMTV wrote: Both Korean as well as international fans are important to us. We hope that no one gets the wrong picture and believes that NaNiWa is being treated disadvantageously because he is a foreigner. On the contrary, if a Korean had been involved in a similar incident, it is possible that a much harsher reaction would have followed. It is also very likely that the player's team would have taken firm action before the GSL could have even reacted to it. I would strongly urge you to revise this statement. The way that it is worded leaves the perception that your organization is making a snide comment about the nature of Naniwa's foreigner representation vis-a-vis your stated examples of the Korean model. This vagueness can be chalked up to inadequacies in translation, but should be addressed. My emphasis added in the quote. | ||
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Soft`Soap
Canada865 Posts
On December 15 2011 07:17 GuiltyJerk wrote: I like how when they mention Sen's accomplishments they decide to completely ignore the fact that he got 3rd at NASL. It's amusing that they just pretend that tournament doesn't exist. NASL is a pretty mediocre tournament (thx to garbage management) I pretend like it doesn't exist as well and I'm sure a lot of people do too User was warned for this post | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
Kicking him out of the tournament that they had given him a spot in through scemantics is a cheap cop out to please the Korean crowd. If an actual sports team in a world sport would've been banned from a tournament because they didn't play 'passionately' enough, there'd be a fucking uproar. Somehow now it's all cool, and GOM can change their tournament roster however they like. It wouldn't surprise me if the next champion is crowned without ro8 even being played as he was a clear crowd favourite and he played very 'passionately'. When was performance removed out of the pictures in sports? How can you go by anything but performance, when no rules were broken? | ||
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Nyarly
France1030 Posts
On December 15 2011 07:18 HappyChris wrote: But they did allrdy announce it get it? They didnt announce MMA or DRG got a spot when they won there code S in the MLG exchange program Hihi: Your Official Announcement Pro Circuit Players Competing in the GSL At MLG Columbus, the Top 3 non-Korean finishers will each be placed into GSL Code A. At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows: Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, regardless of country of origin, who doesn't already have Code S status. this says it all Naniwa won a code S spot. Acording to there own rules. So MLG Dallas 2025 will award a Code-S Spot too? Stop being blind, the partnership is over, or atleast in this form. GOM was about to explain it to us (as they said in this thread that you apparently didn't read). If you fail to read or refuse to believe them, it's your problem but that doesn't make your statement right. | ||
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Jamial
Denmark1289 Posts
And no, I'm not a fan of NaNiwa. | ||
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Nexic
United States729 Posts
No explicit apology on their behalf is very ****ed up, much less respect for them going forward. | ||
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