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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:55 Grettin wrote: Comparing Nestea vs HuK and Naniwa vs Nestea is ridiculous lol. Pretty much the opposite: Nestea played silly to please the crowd. Nani played silly to get the fuck out of there. | ||
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Eineez
Sweden37 Posts
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:50 Goibon wrote: Without question. I won't tolerate their authoritarian attitude however. Good luck to them. Now i just need more Koreans to start streaming, especially Leenock. Also KSL is pretty awesome viewing. It's their league, they can do whatever they want with it and owe no obligation. HOWEVER, with that being said, I don't like this decision AT ALL. If they want to take the hardcore approach, ban Naniwa, I don't feel like they should, but it's definitely reasonable and they have the rights to do it. But just handing out his Code S spots to Idra and Sen......they are good players, but I can't help but to feel they are just trying to capture foreign audience in a cheap way with this move. It all makes sense: Huk is out of Code S at least for now, and they need some foreigners to fill the void so foreigners will watch the games. It used to be Naniwa, but now with him gone they need someone, and they pick Idra. It's a cheap move, I LOVE Idra being in Code S. But its not fair at all. | ||
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similarion
Canada10 Posts
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:55 Snowen wrote: The thing is with this move, GSL/Gom just proved they are a league that doesnt care about having the best players, they just want your money/viewers. Trash response from you. Can you honestly say with a straight face that IdrA is deserving? | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
From the original GSL thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141496 Eligibility - You must be at least 12 years old. - You must have your own Battle.net account. - You must fill out the registration form on the website. - You must be able to participate in the offline preliminaries. - GomTV can deny your participation if you are found unfit to be a gamer. So i guess GOM has deemed someone who do not give their best in all games to be unfit to be a gamer. This is also the rule that prevent Saviour and co from joining GSL. And non-meaningful games exists all the time in many competitions. Last weeks of NBA , NFL, EPL, MLB regular seasons? Between teams who cannot go to playoffs, who can't qualify for European Leagues but too high to get relegated? You don't see the 12th and 13th team in the EPL who met during the last week stage a mass afternoon nap session in the field don't you? They still play for the fans. Of course they can save/rest their players and try less hard. But they still show up and present some semblance of a game to their fans and to respect the competition. | ||
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nick1689
Australia494 Posts
Nani getting kicked out is a totally different thing... Im not sure where i stand on it | ||
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dormer
United States1314 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:57 KiNGxXx wrote: WTF? What does that mean? Most paying team or player with a lot of fans get a spot? IdrA and Sen has huge fanbases, so not suprisingly. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:39 Bulkers wrote: Im against any kind of giving free spots in tournaments, Its ok in "Invitational" tournaments where everyone are invited, but if there is a tournament where most players need to qualify to play and you invite some people just because, then this is something I cannot understand. I said almost same thing few months ago when like 5 foreigns were invited to code A, and they all get destroyed in 1st round so I guess there is some justice, and tbh I dont see Idra doing well in code S. About possible Naniwa ban: I think he should be punished, but how big punishment should be I don't know, He needs to learn a lesson, thousand people watching, huge companies sponsoring players and events, its not a place to act like an unmature emotionally unstable badmanner and throw games even if they dont count. Hes already banned from ESL, he should also be banned from MLG since he trashtalk them on stage. Maybe he will learn to to think before act, or as I predicted months ago he will have no team that will want to sign with him, and he will have no big tournaments that will allow him to play. He could get a fine or something, maybe -_- On December 14 2011 18:39 Shellshock1122 wrote: Because it has to do with money and not the actual skill level of the players. The seeds have never gone to any Koreans because Gom wants to sell more season tickets. During NASL, the # of viewers super spiked during Sen's games. Sen is worth more money than Puma in terms of viewers MMA got code S from MLG Anaheim IIRC? MC got Code S from MLG Orlando. HerO or Puma would be good seeds given DH and NASL. | ||
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DrDoom
United States107 Posts
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Titorelli
2492 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:58 similarion wrote: That's a bold claim to say that they invited Idra and Sen due to popularity. Do you work for GOM? How are you so sure that's the reason? It makes the most sense to me. They are by far NOT the best players that are not already in Code S | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
But the rest are filled by Up-and-Down/Code A/Top eight Code S. The two seeds were for MLG + Player whoever fit their criteria. So who gets Naniwa's spot then? | ||
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:58 dtz wrote: I think technically, GOM has the right to ban Naniwa. From the original GSL thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141496 So i guess GOM has deemed someone who do not give their best in all games to be unfit to be a gamer. This is also the rule that prevent Saviour and co from joining GSL. Wow good job finding this particular quote. It basically justifies their decision in term of Korean values for progamers' conducts and should be put in their website's rule. | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
At least make it interesting for the viewers. But just throwing it away not only hurts the players reputation, it hurts the tournaments reputation as well. If viewers can't trust GOM to be able to provide entertaining content on a regular basis, they are going to look elsewhere. GOM can't allow this behavior to spread, plain and simple. | ||
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UnholyRai
720 Posts
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:59 Fionn wrote: Wait, there are two sponsored seeds...? But the rest are filled by Up-and-Down/Code A/Top eight Code S. The two seeds were for MLG + Player whoever fit their criteria. So who gets Naniwa's spot then? Remains to be seen. | ||
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Gezz
United Kingdom81 Posts
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Titorelli
2492 Posts
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