EPTOn December 14 2011 18:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:
They kicked naniwa and gave his spot to Sen. We dont know who idra is replacing yet
They kicked naniwa and gave his spot to Sen. We dont know who idra is replacing yet
Can that be verified?
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HOTSLocusT
Canada10 Posts
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:58 KeksX wrote: Well, at least it's just for a season. The next thing they should announce is that he at least keeps his code S spot or gets a new one the season he comes back. They won't. Naniwa actually upset a lot of people in Korea, this won't be a slap on the wrist thing. They invited Idra in hoping that foreigners won't be too upset for the Naniwa situation. With that being said, that's such a cheap move | ||
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Lavi
Bangladesh793 Posts
in west is mostly about individual rights, and players have a lot of power, but i see korean players as pretty humble and follow direction of organizations- and its their tournament and naniwa wasn't respecting that. meh... i can feintly see why sen would get it from blizzcon 3rd... but idra? I have a hard time seeing why he would get the direct code S seed. I would even say xigua would deserve it more than him since he got 2nd in WCG which is way more recent. | ||
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Whiteman103
United States1070 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:33 LITTLEHEAD wrote: Pretty sure i remember him vs zenio or some other zerg, and he didn't gg. They even asked him why no gg and he made some smart-ass comment. Although this is the only one i can htink of, im almost certain there was another in his last GSL run. Regardless there deffinetly was atleast one...dont know where you where in that match Edit: Found the game, WAS vs Zenio, and it was from NASL, so i withdraw my statement until i can find an actual case idra has gg'd at every lan in sc2. online is a whole nother story | ||
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zestzorb
Thailand776 Posts
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Keeler
United States313 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:58 dtz wrote: I think technically, GOM has the right to ban Naniwa. From the original GSL thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141496 So i guess GOM has deemed someone who do not give their best in all games to be unfit to be a gamer. This is also the rule that prevent Saviour and co from joining GSL. And non-meaningful games exists all the time in many competitions. Last weeks of NBA , NFL, EPL, MLB regular seasons? Between teams who cannot go to playoffs, who can't qualify for European Leagues but too high to get relegated? You don't see the 12th and 13th team in the EPL who met during the last week stage a mass afternoon nap session in the field don't you? They still play for the fans. Of course they can save/rest their players and try less hard. But they still show up and present some semblance of a game to their fans and to respect the competition. Boom, game over. | ||
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
Actually Sen's and Idra's spots are separate from this issue. Not sure who will get Naniwa's spot. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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phantaxx
United States201 Posts
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:59 baoluvboa wrote: Wow good job finding this particular quote. It basically justifies their decision in term of Korean values for progamers' conducts and should be put in their website's rule. Ofc they have the right to ban people, it is their tournament, the question is if a proberush is enough to ban someone. I surely thnk that it isnt. | ||
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HTE
16 Posts
It's a private organization, they can do whatever they want. | ||
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NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:54 HOTSLocusT wrote: Koreans take their SC as a very serious sport/entertainment. Nani pretty much spat in their face. We still view it differently cause its not as serious a sport to us yet. Different culters \(-.-)/ Lets say a scenario whereby in the old GOM format whereby there could be a match for 1st and 2nd seeds for the group. If you win you play MVP if you lose you play me (a scrub). Then you 7 pool against Nestea because you feel you can never win unless you get an advantage. You wtill lose because Nestea is a god and then GSL tells you hey you threw that match, you are disqualified) is that deserved? This could happen because GOM shows they can ban anyone. In many competitions such as in WCG (according to SOTG), there were people throwing games to choose their opponents and they are not eliminated. NaNi threw the game and there was NO gain for him but he was banned. Your rebuttal may be that it is not in the rules but in the GSL rules, HERE throwing matches are also not in the rules. Hence i feel that banning NaNi is a very bad choice | ||
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Deshkar
Singapore1244 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:58 dtz wrote: I think technically, GOM has the right to ban Naniwa. From the original GSL thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141496 So i guess GOM has deemed someone who do not give their best in all games to be unfit to be a gamer. This is also the rule that prevent Saviour and co from joining GSL. Interesting. I see a clash of asian cultures vs western ones again. For every viewer that turns away from the GSL , I pretty sure another like me, would stick to it even more. I value professionalism a lot and maybe cos I'm an asian as well , who knows. On another note, the two foreign spots are present in this current format of the GSL, so it's nothing unexpected. | ||
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Dreamgzer
United States17 Posts
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VikingKong
China509 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:00 Titorelli wrote: Whaaaaat? Sponsor seeds?! What the fuck?? So EG have bought their way into Code S? :D Wooow wow wow Sponsor as in, GOM is sponsoring them into code S. Not as in, sponsors are buying a seed. Think before you post, Gamania (Sen's team) isn't that rich, if they were really up for sale, another team would have snapped it up. Calling it them sponsored seeds is to differentiate them from the other 2 foreign seeds into up and downs. | ||
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kobrakai
175 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:55 Thobrik wrote: So football and rugby players start consciously scoring own goals in "unimportant" matches in the group stages of large tournaments? Er........... He said acting professionally. Is it professional for Suarez to swear at Fulham fans because they were booing him constantly? Is it professional for rugby players to have a fight in the middle of the game? (happened every year i've been to the opening day of the rugby season at twickenham)? Is it professional for a rugby team to get a guy to have a blood capsule and bite down on it during a game (Harlequinns, not banned from anything)? Is it professional for a football teams players to surround a ref after a bad decision? Is it professional for Drogba to scream 'it's a disgrace' into a tv camera in the champs league? The answer to all these is no and yet they all happened and incidents similar to the above occur all the time. Lol if football leagues banned teams for violations such as the above. Managers constantly sent to the stands for unprofessional behavior. Teams get fined like £20,000 pounds for violations (note for retards £20,000 is nothing to a football team). I mean fuck Alex Ferguson didnt speak to the BBC for a decade.... that is unprofessional. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:00 Gezz wrote: A suspension was definitely the right choice. People are saying IdrA forfeits meaningless games regularly but I can never see him doing it for a planned BROADCASTED grudge match. Seeing as its broadcasted it matters to all the viewers and makes GOM look bad. 100% standing behind GOM on this one. Naniwa is under no obligation to make GOM look good, nor is it his business to care about how they will look. If GOM is going to pick players based on which players they like the most and which players make them look good and bring them more money then that what they run is a show, not a legitimate competition. | ||
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
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Grettin
42414 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:01 aderum wrote: Ofc they have the right to ban people, it is their tournament, the question is if a proberush is enough to ban someone. I surely thnk that it isnt. Jesus christ, it's not just about the fucking tactic he used. | ||
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Ace.Xile
United States286 Posts
How is that boom game over, naniwa offered some semblance of the game, just a short one. He could have just as easily 4 gated and noone would be saying shit, which is stupid. | ||
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