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Please discuss IdrA and Sen in Code S January in this thread.
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#221
why don't just leave it with up&downs...
i dislike the gom tournament system more and more.
Halcyondaze
Profile Joined January 2011
United States509 Posts
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#222
On December 14 2011 18:21 aderum wrote:
Remember folks, Idra had a Code-S spot when he left Korea, so its kinda a logical thing to invite him.


Very True. Good point, they even made a video . But seriously it is logical
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#223
On December 14 2011 18:24 Snowbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:17 Tommylew wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:15 Snowbear wrote:
I don't understand why people think that nani doesn't deserve a kick out of the tournament. He didn't behave:
- "g" instead of "gg": I see this as a spit in the face
- probe rushing

In such a big tournament you just have to act professional, and he just can't.


will you shut up you drama queen. he was rushing to leave game so did only one g by accident and he probe rushed because he was playign a meaningless game ina bullshit tournament structure.. hell in up and down games in regular season you dont play when you are already out... so whats the big deal.


You don't just miss a g. Do you see a korean GSL player miss a g? No. The games are NEVER meaningless, the viewers always want a nice great match. If I was in charge I would make sure that this kid would never be allowed to participate in ANY tournament.


Yes, i have ssen it a couple of time, Koreans only hitting one "g" before leaving.
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#224
There were 2 foreigner invites to code S in the format. MLG Is one of them and we didnt know what second one was. It could be they choose to invite Sen and Idra is simply taking the place of SC (who i hope gets well soon)
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#225
On December 14 2011 18:22 Lysanias wrote:
Idra in code S would love it if he actualy played for it and earned it.

Did he not do that when he made it to the Ro16 of Code S?
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#226
On December 14 2011 18:23 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:22 Femari wrote:
Wait who was the highest non-Code S player in Providence who doesn't have a Code S spot now?


Huk, then Haypro, and then Idra.

And I don't get the Sen thing. Why?


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Ace.Xile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States286 Posts
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#227
On December 14 2011 18:24 Snowbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:17 Tommylew wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:15 Snowbear wrote:
I don't understand why people think that nani doesn't deserve a kick out of the tournament. He didn't behave:
- "g" instead of "gg": I see this as a spit in the face
- probe rushing

In such a big tournament you just have to act professional, and he just can't.


will you shut up you drama queen. he was rushing to leave game so did only one g by accident and he probe rushed because he was playign a meaningless game ina bullshit tournament structure.. hell in up and down games in regular season you dont play when you are already out... so whats the big deal.


You don't just miss a g. Do you see a korean GSL player miss a g? No. The games are NEVER meaningless, the viewers always want a nice great match. If I was in charge I would make sure that this kid would never be allowed to participate in ANY tournament.


Cool glad youre not in charge, also glad that your logic is epicly flawed in terms of the missing g thing.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#228
On December 14 2011 18:23 XRaDiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:17 Geo.Rion wrote:
OGSParkjeso just wrote to Sen that Naniwa got removed!

Not trolling, wanted to screeenshot was 0.2 seconds late



.... I don't think a lot of people are going to be happy about that. Seems kind-of like a harsh punishment IMO

are you suprised after Coca incident?

on the topic, this is a joke, Idra was scheduled to play up-and down matches anyway why not let him finish that and just get codeS? At least we would know if hes capable of beating Koreans.
Stork[gm]
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
December 14 2011 09:26 GMT
#229
On December 14 2011 18:15 Snowbear wrote:
I don't understand why people think that nani doesn't deserve a kick out of the tournament. He didn't behave:
- "g" instead of "gg": I see this as a spit in the face
- probe rushing

In such a big tournament you just have to act professional, and he just can't.

G is the easiest mistake in the world to make - I honestly couldnt give any less of a fuck.

Probe rushing was a terrible choice, but unless he specifically broke some rule... And even then, it'd be a pretty severe punishment.
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mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
December 14 2011 09:26 GMT
#230
doesn't this make as mockery of their tournament system? If i was a korean making my way through code b and a I'd be pissed right now
MasterBlasterCaster
Profile Joined October 2011
United States568 Posts
December 14 2011 09:26 GMT
#231
If they booted Nani than I'm seriously considering gging professional SC2 forever...

That would be pathetic, and I'm sorry, but I could not support that. I would rather watch professional wrestling... even that crap is a more legit sport or competition than this...
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
December 14 2011 09:26 GMT
#232
It's not terribly nice of Jinro to kick up a fuss for Idra's (and Sen's) invites. I can see that it conflicts with his personal interests as a player, but having foreigners compete in a wild card tournament is a pretty bad idea: they need to be flown in, they'd need ample time to prepare so it's not random and the mini-tournament would need to organized over long period to be seen as valid by the fans. It might work for Koreans, but not for foreigners.

I'd personally be happy as a foreigner progamer that these invites happen because next time (Idra said he'd leave again) it could be me. (Won't be in my case, though ) Idra and Sen seem like excellent choices, where everyone else that has such good results recently has already stated that they're not interested (Stephano) etc.
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
December 14 2011 09:26 GMT
#233
On December 14 2011 18:15 DoomsVille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:14 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
It looks so bad when they do these freebie spots - if they want more foreign invites they need to start outlining exactly what qualifies people for Code A/S, do some online qualifiers or something.

But enough with all the 'well, lets invite him to Code X' bullshit.

Do wild cards or something, geez :/

100% agree.

No one should get an invite into Code S anyways. That is kind of ridiculous. Players should be earning their way into what is supposed to be the most difficult and prestigious tournament anywhere.


Sadly GOMTV isn't doing that well (at least not raking in the money). Getting Idra in will get more viewers (or at least the same viewers more consistently).

Idra is really popular.
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Vandalman
Profile Joined May 2011
United States66 Posts
December 14 2011 09:26 GMT
#234
On December 14 2011 18:21 Hopelessnoob wrote:
if its naniwa... i will really be unhappy with GOM. This is a very bad desicion...
There is no precedent to remove NaNi at all


There has always been a problem of match fixing and throwing games. You cant just go into a match and purposely loose that bad. If a team in a different sport through a game just as bad as Nani did they would have disciplinary action as well.

You just cant do what he did and not expect the people running the tournament to be ok with it.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
December 14 2011 09:26 GMT
#235
On December 14 2011 18:24 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:09 baoluvboa wrote:
I hope it was Naniwa. Set a precedent for some professionalism in Korean leagues the way they want it.


Kicking a player who didn't break any rules out of your league does not set a precedent for professionalism at all.

Neither do these arbitrary invites though. I'm curious what Idra and Sen have over other foreigners?

What makes you so sure he didn't break any rules? Do you actually know all the GSL rules?

I believe Wolf said he did, in fact, break a GSL rule.
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
December 14 2011 09:27 GMT
#236
On December 14 2011 18:09 Son of Gnome wrote:
I'm not a huge fan of nani but if he got kicked out for that, i will lose respect for gom


Although this whole "losing respect for xyz" is really stupid, I actually tend to agree here. I'd be really disappointed in GOM to say the least.
@nowSimon
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
December 14 2011 09:27 GMT
#237
On December 14 2011 18:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:23 Fionn wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:22 Femari wrote:
Wait who was the highest non-Code S player in Providence who doesn't have a Code S spot now?


Huk, then Haypro, and then Idra.

And I don't get the Sen thing. Why?


3rd at Blizzcon? Probably would've won if Nestea/MVP didn't attend


Third at both NASLs as well.

Sen in Code S mean another thing. They must be adding 3-4th place matches i mean Sen has to take third in all his tournys
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babo213
Profile Joined January 2011
United States266 Posts
December 14 2011 09:27 GMT
#238
On December 14 2011 18:25 nugget-92 wrote:
If Naniwa got removed I think I will have infinitely less motivation to watch GSL.

In my mind the GSL has always been a fair tournament that has never made huge blunders but if Naniwa is removed then it is a huge mistake in my eyes.


If GOM does nothing then it means more players will do that and more negative consequences. If Kespa was in charge Naniwa would have a significant punishment.
GOM is in a crappy situation lots of people think it's no big deal and a lot of people want them to do something
LITTLEHEAD
Profile Joined September 2010
United States79 Posts
December 14 2011 09:27 GMT
#239
On December 14 2011 18:24 Snowbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:17 Tommylew wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:15 Snowbear wrote:
I don't understand why people think that nani doesn't deserve a kick out of the tournament. He didn't behave:
- "g" instead of "gg": I see this as a spit in the face
- probe rushing

In such a big tournament you just have to act professional, and he just can't.


will you shut up you drama queen. he was rushing to leave game so did only one g by accident and he probe rushed because he was playign a meaningless game ina bullshit tournament structure.. hell in up and down games in regular season you dont play when you are already out... so whats the big deal.


You don't just miss a g. Do you see a korean GSL player miss a g? No. The games are NEVER meaningless, the viewers always want a nice great match. If I was in charge I would make sure that this kid would never be allowed to participate in ANY tournament.

not true, ive seen it happen on more than one occassion...typically followed by them retyping the full "gg" but regardless it does happen...and even if it didn't...its not a big deal.

Idra has no gg'ed in GSL and it wasn't a problem. I understand the korean culture is different, but i feel without a doubt that if someone else had done it that they wouldn't have taken such harsh measures, especially for a game without meaning. Naniwa shouldn't have done what he did, but this is being blown out of proportion.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 14 2011 09:27 GMT
#240
On December 14 2011 18:26 Ghanburighan wrote:
It's not terribly nice of Jinro to kick up a fuss for Idra's (and Sen's) invites. I can see that it conflicts with his personal interests as a player, but having foreigners compete in a wild card tournament is a pretty bad idea: they need to be flown in, they'd need ample time to prepare so it's not random and the mini-tournament would need to organized over long period to be seen as valid by the fans. It might work for Koreans, but not for foreigners.

I'd personally be happy as a foreigner progamer that these invites happen because next time (Idra said he'd leave again) it could be me. (Won't be in my case, though ) Idra and Sen seem like excellent choices, where everyone else that has such good results recently has already stated that they're not interested (Stephano) etc.


Do note Jinro has had invites for Code A but has declined it because he wants to earn it. Very honorable of Jinro to do so I can understand why he doesn't like this.
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